Tanks and Self-Propelled Artillery: What's the Difference?

Could you take out the crew of an MBT with the concussion of an SPG round?

I know there are other practical issues that make it better to blow up an enemy tank than goo its crew, so I just mean theoretically.

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What was the last model USA tank that could be used as artillery?

I dont think light tanks are meant to be able to take a main gun shell to to face...

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I love the "no stupid questions" attitude. While it seems obvious once you know the answer, getting from ignorance to knowledge requires you as questions that have those obvious answers.

Tank has heavy armor and a gun flat shooting, mobile artillery has light to medium armor and ranged gun that is ment for long ranged fire. Tank is for frontal assault. Mobile artillery is for shoot and scoot

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So, TLDR: Tanks shoot direct fire; Artillery shoot indirect fire. Or even simpler, tanks shoot straight while artillery chuck things in an arc. 😁😁

In a way, it's like an assault rifle versus a sniper rifle. Both look like "rifles" and both shoot bullets, but they are designed for different use cases. Based on what the average person is familiar with in pop culture, they intuitively know that a sniper rifle is this gun that "shoots at things from very far away".

Self propelled guns are artillery weapons which are a class of weapons also designed to "shoots at things from very far away". Just like snipers rely on their spotters, so too do artillery units, because targets are so far away that they would need people dedicated to the role of acquiring targets.

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I thought that since T55s were so outdated, the invading russian nazis terrorists Orcs, would try and use the big gun as artillery.

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The problem remains that most journalists, particularly those writing for newspapers, insist on referring to ANY armoured vehicle with a turret as a 'tank'.

Tanks have a gun mounted on a rotating turret. Self propelled gun has a gun that is fixed to the body and the whole vehicle must be pointed towards the target.

One is designed for direct fire combat, the other is designed for long range indirect fire although both can switch to the other role although not as effective.

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A tank is the only way to get a big gun into sightrange of the enemy.
SPG is just artillery trying to be a bit more mobile and protected to survive counter battery fire.
If a tank can see the enemy, it is doing it's job.
If a SPG can see the enemy, somebody has done something wrong.

Excellent comparison, strong work!

I passed through the Utah-Colorado hornet area yesterday and there was just an M109 sitting in a parking lot

tl;dw: if it's forward it's a tank, if it's back it's not.

if anyone else has read John Ringo's Posleen war series, the SheVa "tank" comes to mind... (go BunBun!)

Considering Tanks current role in the war, some being adapted in-situ as beyond-effective range, indirect fire support (like field mortars), I wouldn’t be surprised if NATO at least develops a round type which would easily convert a tank into an indirect fire support vehicle like a SP mortar

It used to be an excellent method to tell them apart: can it shoot big shells while moving, or does it have to deploy first. I am not sure this would still work; I think at least some of the self-propelled howitzers can move and shoot at the same time.

TLDR:
Tank- Mobile, needs to see you to kill you

Paladin- Mobile, needs your zip code to kill you

Kind of surprised we need to even have this video... It all comes down to what their primary purpose is, is it simply direct fire or indirect fire. I can strap a gun to a wheelchair but it doesn't make it an IFV or a tank, it just makes me a moron for using something improperly.

Hiya, as an ex M109 driver, id love to know your thoughts on Russia deploying T34 and T55 as artillery
thanks, loving all of your insights to what is going on.

If it's obsolete it's a tank, if it's not obsolete it's an SPG

Raytheon and McB'Rith getting fatter while Ukraine loses. Oy, what a world.

The german Panzerhaubitze 2000 can shoot his bamf heavy gun direct fire.

Shoot and scoot is important for artillery, Don't be predictable when you scoot.

"Killer Junior" is so named due to the call sign of the unit was "Killer" and "Junior" indicates the smaller calibers. I believe "Killer Senior" would have been the same air burst direct fire with 8 inch howitzers or maybe 175mm guns.

Russians burned 100 bradleys and 40 leopards in 3 weeks with the help of FPV drones twisted right there in the trench 😂🤣

in polish we have 3 types:
- tank (czołg),
- hauwitzer (haubica),
- cannon-hauwitzer (armatohaubica), which is an intermediary of sorts.
The now famous Krabs are from the 3rd category

Rule of Thumb
If you're close enough to the enemy that they can shoot back, use a tank
If they are far away like with artillery, use the SPG

Good points. Worth mentioning to compare Self-Propelled Artillery with regular Artillery such as M777 howitzer for example. Triple seven has no armor and needs truck to be towed away - much more hustle, and it takes much more time to move and it is not so good off road. Meanwhile having identical range to Self-Propelled Artillery, depending on ammunition type.

Ryan, a general question possibly for a future roundup: Now that the leaves are back on the trees, it is possible for well-hidden infantry to shoot at vehicles and it seems a problem that crewed weapons usually cannot determine where the shot came from. In the civilian world, police departments often use something like "shotspotter" to identify the location of a shot. It seems an inexpensive solution to place some microphones on a vehicle along with a computer to do the math to determine the direction of a loud sound like a shot and display a likely direction. Perhaps even bluetooth with other vehicles to provide a possible grid for artillery fire. Of course, this only helps for the first shot of a firefight and being around buildings could be more difficult. Sounds of firearms differ, so it could be tailored to react only to specific firearms and maybe also include a variable sensitivity. It sounds like a Raspberry Pi mini computer a display and four microphones. Why not?

Now I know.

A more important question is, which ones makes a cooler BOOM when they shoot?

What’s the difference between a mortar and a artillery shell?

I just ask someone Why don’t tanks jus silencers on Some main battle tanks ?

another one, samsung makes fucking artilleries

So would WWI tanks now be reclassified as IFVs?

Very Briefed And Summarized Ideas:

I think for the start the calibers, then the elevation of the gun barrel in the howitzers systems, third level of protection for carrying platforms especially the turret ,and fourth the specialized rounds fired by both platforms although generally both platforms firing almost similar HE-FRG rounds but the tanks are firing APFSDS rounds and HEAT, which I think there are no designing of HEAT rounds for the artillery systems even with advancement in the laser guidance ammunition for the artillery systems, but I acknowledge that's some guided artillery rounds maybe still lacking the pinpoint🎯capabilities of the laser riding guided ATGMs even when the targets being painted effectively by a laser designator, while in contrast, the specialized rounds of the artillery systems comes from the facts that those ammunition subject to continuous development programs, for example from standard shells or basic ammunition which is similar to tanks rounds to a series of ammunition with improved kinetic performance, such as the HE: based bleed, rockets assistant RA, to the rocket assistant based bleed to the special velocity-enhanced long range projectile V-LAP ...etc, and at the same time the artillery systems firing laser guided rounds, while for the tanks and with the exception of gun launched anti tanks guided missiles (GLATGM) all tanks are firing unguided ammunition...

the last point is the tanks guns barrels are generally longer than most of the mobile artillery systems, and firing lighter rounds but still the latter possesses the longer ranges, of course this is due to the mobile artillery systems high angle of firing or the elevation of the gun barrel...