What are the Earliest Creeds in Christian History? With Gary Habermas

This is so good. I want to listen again at least three more times

"Ex nihilo nihil fit" ~ out of nothing, nothing comes. So if ever there was a time when there was nothing, then nothing could ever exist. RC Sproul

Exhomosexuaĺ, been saved almost 40 yrs, this is one of the best videos ever, brought to tears several times, went to Moody, never knew this

Exhomosexuaĺ, been saved almost 40 yrs, this is one of the best videos ever, brought to tears several times, went to Moody, never knew this

I learned so much. Mr. Habermas is fascinating to listen to as he just speaks as if we're all his students. Enjoyed his informal sense of humor and passion for identifying creed passages and the timeline too.

This is just terrible and promotes deceit => they weren’t even members of the BOC.

Excellent podcast as always!

We weren't designed to live by creeds. We were designed to live by the inheritance we have received in Christ Jesus and respond to the love of God He has given to us through the indwelling Holy Spirit.

Our brother John gave us wonderful God inspired insights on Jesus and His integral place within the Trinity. He also was inspired to write that by reading the scriptures it is the Holy Spirit that teaches us. We honour God in Spirit and IN truth or His reality. For those seeking and asking the H.S. to lead will intuitively know in their hearts what is true. This always occurs through the heart rather than our intellectual pursuits of God's truths. The early church father's understanding of Jesus and the Gospel etc which Eastern Orthodoxy which to this day still remains close. Centuries later the Orthodox/ Roman Catholic Schism and centuries later still the Protestant Reformation introduced different dogmas to muddy the waters in our search for the Truth the Way and the Life. All three factions agree on that this is found in Jesus the Word of God waiting to be revealed in ALL of mankind. The unbroken image of God our true Christ centred self to be made real. Let us stop the debates the false Gospel bashing and simply follow Jesus with our hearts and be true lights to this suffering world. Let us learn the difference between our false selves, with its fear based self serving agendas, to our true selves (Galatians 1;16) as now consciously aware of our position within the Trinity to love and serve one another. Except for the remnant and the mystics (Jesus on earth was one) we have seen little change to world affairs. Religion and exterior cultural norms yes...transformation into the maturity of Christ no. The game is up and we are now in a post Christian era and unless we stop labelling those (like Jesus in His day) who are critiquing our Christianity as heretics (the prophets of old were stoned) our Gospel suffers. And indeed if the world is on a downward spiral, and here our Christian hypocritical witness is mostly to blame for this, no matter. The early church father's understanding of God's unrelenting grace and mercy reconciles ALL of creation to Himself IN Jesus on the cross. APOKATASTASIS!!! God's sovereign will will not lose one sheep. God being God does not lose for as Paul writes if we have no faith it is His faith which sustains ALL for God cannot deny Himself. Elisha keep asking the hard questions for I believe it will eventually wean us of so much biased human legalistic biblical interpretation since the Reformation. Go back to the early church father's (and Orthodoxy) and discover this to be true.! Shalom and Maranatha.❤️

The earliest Christians didn't allow women to preach (hint hint)

If you want to know what the early Christians believed? All you need to do is look at the Orthodox church.

So the JWs are are correct and all mentions of Lord should be Jehovah?

I appreciate the interview and am genuinely happy that Protestants are looking into the history of the Church, but please don't pretend that you've uncovered something previously unknown. The Ortthodox Church has known, preserved and disseminated these truths for 2,000 years through our "Tradition".

Eucharist 👀

When I heard "German Theologians", heresy always comes to my mind

Pull up and read the Didache written as early as 50 AD. Early Christianity bares no resemblance to westernized American Christianity

The Catholic Church gave us the authorized version of the Bible.
It's so fortunate that the Catholic Church did this one thing right.

Wait until you find out that Polycarp was Catholic

Woh creeds that date jist days after the resurrection 😮this is historical date that is from his time.

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Super interesting. Thank you.

AlisaI have a question for you, why did you not introduce Dr. Hagerman as the editor of the Oscar Cullmann book? He’s listed as the editor right on the front cover that’s a low mark of professionalism on his part. The early church was comprised of Jews, who rarely spoke Hebrew outside of the synagogue, because the every day language of the Galileans was Aramaic. There were three different dialects of Aramaic. Earliest records now show that there were. Aramaic writings of the sayings of Jesus. These same Jews also had a Bible Kotter tonight, which was the old testament and was titled the Septuagint in. It was written in Greek they were not ignorant people. They knew the prophecies concerning the Messiah in a beautiful account is related by the deacons, Stephen just before he was stoned to death, but I’ll look at what Stephen gave in his defense as what was probably the understanding of the average Galilean Jew.

Today we have gospels and books in the New Testament that have been written, not for me, Jewish or Aramaic cultural point of view, but from a Greek point of view, which I am sad to say, does not capture a lot of what was conveyed by Jesus in the parables, and then the idioms of the aramaics.

Woh, the preaching was right away. Definitely, Jesus is the only historical figure with early evidence 🙌

early christian keep the jewish practice. they belive in CHRIST and keep the law of Moses

Revelation 12:17

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Kuriou=Lord in Greek

Michael heiser

Recently started reading the early church fathers. This instruction in them has been really helpful, but also it really helps interpreting scripture. There are several good translations.

I am miffed when i hear christians say "the first early christians didn't have a Bible." That would only be true for latter christians 700-1500s, when the Roman church forbade ordinary people from reading the Bible. And when ordinary people did have during those times they were persecuted and killed by order of the Vatican at Rome. ALL of the first early christians studied the "TRUTH" from the TORAH, ENOCH, PROVERBS, JOB, PSALMS, WISDOM(Salomon), PROPHETS, MACCABEES, Old Testament, and the *APOSTOLIC LETTERS: 1,2,Peter, James, 1,2,3,John, Jude; *GOSPELS; *HEBREWS; this would be the "core" teachings on which all later writings teach from. And encompass "EVERYTHING" YESUA would have spoken and stands for. SO YES THEY HAD A BIBLE. At first they even attended Synagogue services. The ACTS, REVELATIONS and PAUL letters came for the encouraging of the FAITH.

I posted the Early Roman Creed in the appendix of my book...

And The Catalysm of the Kingdom of Heaven is a new creed... with the Early Roman Creed in the appendix...

One thing we can say for certain about early Christians is that they weren't MIMICKING anyone. So why do people TODAY attempt to do that? If the Father was available THEN, He is available NOW, so what any sincere follower should do is turn their heart and mind to the Holy Spirit, and when a Leading is given, follow it...even unto death or public disgrace.

Idk in English there is only two words for God, “god” and “lord” in Hebrew there are many. El, Elohim, Adonia, HaShem, etc

The Creeds in the New Testament are exactly what we would expect to find because they were the best way to help the illiterate remember the foundational basics of the Gospel so they would believe, be born again and then be able to share with non believers.

Just use scripture...no creeds needed.

The early Christians certainly didn’t believe in the creed of the trinity. That was an invention of the Constantine Christians. At Christ’s baptism, Christ was present in the flesh. The Holy Ghost was present in the form of a dove, and God the Father was present in the heavens and His voice was audible to all present. Thus, three separate and distance beings. The trinity is a concept created by man.

Love this... Thanks... Let's go back to the very beginning, instead of all the 'mess' these days without the 'age' of the original apostles (creed).

Please discuss the didache

"The Imitation of Christ" written by Saint  Thomas à Kempis ( Dutch/German) is a Catholic devotional book. It was first composed in Latin ca. 1418-1427.
It is a small powerful handbook how to live daily a spiritual life arising from the Devotio Moderna movement, of which Kempis was a member.

The NEW TESTAMENT was written in the Apostolic age : live they were still alive:
This was the era after Chtist died and was Resurrected into Heaven:
While Jesus was alive the Bible couldn't not have be witten: because Jeus was still
alive:
The Apostles wrote the Gospels and the various Letters: that were to become The New Testament:
How this happened, the Church went into prayer & fasting AND with the help and spiritual promptings & of the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, then those "writings" that were chosen with the help of the Holy Spirit had to be compiled into THE valid documents : This became the New Testament:

I f you read/study the Early Church Fathers/Apostolic Fathers: you will be deeply moved at the holiness of the formation of the Roman Catholic Church:
Men and women, and families had complete life changes: what they discovered in Christ's teachings: TRUTH and BEAUTY: IT IS IN THE TEACHING OF THE BIBLE: THE TRUTH MUST BE EXPLAINED: FROM THAT TRUTH THEN LOVE BEGINS TO STIR THE HUMAN HEART:
One must use the Catholic Bible, it is the same Bible today as it was in the 1C AD: It has never been corrupted:
I say this with the deepest respect to everyone:
God bless you!

Really great video, thank you!

Any creed concerning the Sabbath?

I KEEP HEARING THE EARLY CHURCH / WHAT ANCIENT WRITINGS DO YOU POSSES AND READ TO BACK UP YOUR (((((ASSUMPTIONS))) ABOUT CREEDS, YOU ARE QUOTING NOTHING BUT A VERSE OR TWO OF SCRIPTUE A CREED IT TAKES 3 OR 4 MINUTES TO RECITE NOT A LINE OR TWO!!! THE CHURCH COUNCILS OF CARTHAGE AND HIPPO HAD THE ORGINAL WRITINGS AND DECIDED THE NEW TESTAMENT SCRIPTURE FROM THESE EARLY DOCUMENTS !!! IN 397 !! 2 CREEDS APOSTLES CREED AND THE NICINE CREED... YOU PEOPLE ARE JUST QUESSING AND NOTHING MORE !!! WLOVES IN SHEEPS CLOTHING, TOM CROWLEY

Absolutely Fascinating 💯 love the content of your video and found it quite enlightening and edifying. Keep up the great work. God bless you.

Except the New Testament's "Lord" is the Greek "Kyrios" - which is an honorific title; the Old Testament's LORD/YHWH/Elohim would be the Greek "Ho Theos".

Cheesy
Interrupting of the bible, but what did the church fathers do, say and believe?

Greek.😂