Jordan Peterson - A Sad Story About Living With OCD

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I'm shocked how little Mr Peterson knows about ocd.

People felt sorry for the dog but not for the OCD sufferer. That is the number one problem in all societies, zero knowledge, and/or understanding of social behavior coupled with mental illness. The average person is not informed, and perceives social interaction incorrectly. I have both Tourette's Syndrome and OCD, and I've become disturbingly cautious of other people.

"They had a lot of sympathy for the dog, but not much for the guy". - sadly very true

He hasn't the slightest clue about OCD _ symptoms and treatment. Watch his disgust with his patient - zero empathy. Better check into Gabor Maté.

What about harm OCD, religious ocd, ROCD,Pocd?

I have ocd and the hand washing isba very real thing its starts with intrusive thoughts then the compulsion to wash my hands or check the doors and shut my gates if there open i have 2 dogs and 2 cats so i seem to spent most of my time with them cleaning making sure were flee free (this as become a compulsion)

I really don't understand why Peterson with his experience and education gets OCD so badly wrong.Nuthing to do with disgust.

Damn. Just in the first few seconds. He inputs his own assumptions over what it actually is anxiety. Disgust is just a part of anxiety but what triggers people is more than just disgust its literally straight up based in fear. As someone who had scrupulosity and still suffers from magical thinking side of things. Imagine him rationing to himself that he's disgusted with god and that's why we do compulsions. Like how stupid are you we obviously aren't disgusted with god when we are scrupulous and we don't place disgust rather dissatisfaction of ourselves working in the image of god. Like straight up. Although I must admit I have since parted with God in the form of religion and I will deal with them if they exist when I get there.

OCD literally ruined my life from 20 to 34. DESTROYED ME. Literally obliterated my life. It was so bad I thought suicide was a better option.

It's where I started looking at JP from a different angle.

We saw another woman (a psychiatrist ?) at TikTok (or at some similar platform, it was on the reels you know).
The woman discussed how incredibly wretched the OCD people were.
She went into vivid details, with swearing, on how she was amazed with certain people.
She is a practicing professional in LA.
Imagine you are her patient and have fallen in love with TikTok. What a surprise.

The irony with this talk is that Jordan is talking about the disgust with disgust. In my humble opinion.

OCD has far more tones to it. Even if disgust has to do with the underlying mechanism I don't think it's central.
If you're obsessed with fear of dying, is it because death is disgusting. 100%.
Any twisted existential rumination? Unending catastrophizing? Existence is disgusting.
What about counting, sensorimotor OCD, dude? What part of it is due to a disgust?

I watched about a band member of Ramones yesterday, he had to go back and forth on the stairs.
This is painful, exhausting and irrational and is just one way it manifests.

If you as a specialist can't stand the disorderness of OCD then don't help people who have it.

He’s only mentioning contamination OCD. Thats only one flavor. There’s many other flavors of OCD lol.
The main components of OCD are intrusive thoughts (obsessions) and compulsions (behaviors like washing, ruminating).
And for people with OCD these thoughts are very distressing and highly anxiety provoking. Many people with OCD develop depression because, as you can imagine, its very depressing to be stuck in your head all day.

People keep saying OCD is about uncertainty not disgust. That's horseshit, a big part of the function of disgust is to cue us towards uncertainty.

Disgust isn't just about physicsl contamination, intrusive thoughts are a form of psychological contamination.

i remember the old days of facebook, where they would post the most disturbing, triggering images ever and threaten saying if you don't like the post, that will happen to you or something.
as someone with OCD, i used to have trichotillomania when i was a teenager, and remember scrolling through facebook, seeing one of those, and then kind of freak out and yell and scream in my pillow cause i couldn't fall asleep at night.
one thing is exposure therapy, as JP mentioned. but some people can come out of it, some don't and they become worse and kind of pyscho because of it.
what worked for me is to just avoid those things for a while. the things that disturb or trigger you, adapt a lifestyle where you don't have to see or be exposed to those things. for me, this was about 8 years. your mental health will get better, and then slowly open yourselves up to those things one by one. don't see it as something to be triggered by, but something you can ignore and look over, not focusing on them. you divert your attention away from them and so the obsession in your mind goes away.

Omg 😢

Love this guy but he is so wrong on this. I have the problem but not the cleaning one. It’s purely an anxiety disorder and I would say also an anxiety habit problem.

Ok I like JP's teachings and I like psychology stuff. I believe I don't have OCD and I am really trying hard to understand it but I still can't. If you know with your mind that some thoughts are ridiculous then just stop acting on them? I know it's not that simple, and we all have our own fears and anxiety so it's really hard to pin where 'normal' ends and OCD starts. I have read many comments on here and still can't understand how OCD works. Like sure, I like my room and stuff to be tidy, and I wash my hands several times a day (mostly after going to the bathroom, coming home, and before eating) but that's normal I think? And I also check whether I have my stove/iron off or my door locked...like I am really having a hard time understanding what's normal and what's OCD.. 😅 help?

Ever wonder why some people even think of comparing black people to monkeys or orcs? OCD may be why.

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If there is any indication in your heart that self glory is involved stop immediately and wait on the lord for his direction true faith is motivated only by the desire to glory God test (2) am i rushing ahead impetuously or am I willing to wait we have already learned that faith and patience always go together Romans 10:11 for the scripture says whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame Isaiah 28:16 therefore this says the lord God behold i lay in zion a stone for a foundation a tried stone a precious cornerstone a sure foundation whoever believes will not act hastily the Christian who waits for God's leading and waits God's working will not be disappointed or ashamed true faith is not in a hurry until God opens the way if you find yourself impatiently rushing ahead of the lord beware you are sure to act in fleshly unbelief instead of in true spiritual faith Romans 14;23 but he who doubts is condemned if he eats because he does not eat from faith for whatever is not from faith is sin test (3) can I defend what i am doing from the word of God true faith is always grounded in word of God the Bible Romans 10:17 so then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God no matter how reasonable an action seem if in contradicts the word of God you cannot do it by faith the Bible gives us precepts to obey promises to claim and principles to follow but if we violate any of these we are acting in unbelief and not in faith our friends may encourage us and circumstances may seem to favour us Jonah found a ship waiting for him but if we are disobeying the word of God we are not acting in faith this means that God cannot bless us or use us to bring glory to God name test (4) as i contemplate this move do i have joy and peace within Romans 15;13 now may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing that you may abound in hope by the power of the Holy spirit where there is true faith the Holy spirit is at work and where the spirit is at work he will produce the fruit of hope joy and peace having the peace of God in your heart is one piece of evidence that you are in the will of God the peace of Christ is supposed to rule in your heart Colossians 3:15 and let the peace of God rule in your heart in which also you were called in one body and be thankful and that word rule literally means be the umpire when you lose God's peace within you know you have somewhere detoured from the will of God it is in this area that the Christian must learn to distinguish between his own human emotions and the deepen work of God in his life God never denies our emotions he certainly can use them to accomplish his purpose but often as we step out by faith we experience human fear and anxieties but if we are walking by faith these fear will eventually be overcome by a deeper joy and peace this is the work of the spirit of God in response to our faith in God's word. 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It's so sad that even jp doesn't understand ocd and most don't. That makes life hard for me and quite a lot of others, but life is unfair so whatever.