Which Primarch Should Of Been Warmaster? | Warhammer 40k Lore

Vulkan. While he’s not a warrior at heart, he is a leader. And the best one of all. Id rather a intelligent cool calm collected war master.

Anyone could have been better than Horus duhh

I thought the video was about being War master in general instead of war Master for chaos.
Then I heard the end

Why do all Pre-Heresy renditions of Magnus make him look like a red Twi-lek

It's "should've" not "should of". "Should've" is the contraction for "should have ".

Guilliman would have been better than Horus. Hands down!

Lion and Sanguinius would be a terrible choice. Both are the best fighters, yes. But considering how Lion handled Luther's situation and how Sanguinius is willing to sacrifice everything for his sons, they would be worse than Horus.
We need the one who can really see everything in a bigger picture, and someone who is actually smart, like Khan or Guilliman.

The answer to this question is obviously Sanguinius

The only problem with someone else being Warmaster is that whoever Big E chose, they would've been turned to Chaos.

It’s should’ve not should of, otherwise great video

The greatest Warmaster would be Guilliman…. Point of reason, the imperium still stands and is currently playing chess with the Tyranid hive mind and silent king.

It would have had to been someone that knew and understood that the astartes and all of the military are expendable and at times sacrifices will need to be made for the greater good. I honestly think Kurze or Peturabo would have done just fine. Also Alpharius would have been a very interesting war master. I know everyone says Dorn or Sanguinius that’s too obvious and they wouldn’t have the heart to make the very tough calls (they are Lawful good) and this would get in there way. A neutral or Lawful Evil like Kurze or peturabo would be perfect.

If Ferrus was made Warmaster, the universe would LITERALLY STOP IN TIME, as if it continued, the golden rule of 40K writing would be broken: The Iron Hands Get No Lore

I would argue that Jagatai could sit amongst those three choices, as he was incredibly pragmatic, effective, and literally told the emperor that he wasnt a huge fan.

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As far as i understood it the Big-E picked Horus because he hoped that he, his closest and most beloved son, could withstand corruption and remain loyal. It essentially took chaos time travel to destroy this bond between father and son for Horus to rebel.

Vulkan - if you wanted more people saved.
Ferrus- if you want a hammer to fix a the issue.
Khan - wasn’t a bad all round guy.
Purto- wasn’t horrible just the emperor abused the hell out of his legion and made them into nothing more then spiteful seige warriors.
Sanguinius- everyone loved him would of been a easy sell as his brothers would aid him.
Cruze - would of ended it fast at high cost if civilians was known for breaking worlds and bringing them into 100% compliance.

Do not suggest logar, alphrous, leman, angron or morty

Big E : And for the position of Warmaster I pick..............Omegon
Everyone else : Who the Fawk is that!!!
Omegon : I Am Alpharius
Alpharius disguised as the Emperor "Hydra Dominatus I mean Yes Omegon you're new brother and warmaster "

Alt universe

"your...giving me this honor father?"

"Indeed horus. Youve proven yourself."

Horus thought about it then noticed it. The tension. It was always this. Sure he was quite egotistical but he cared. Shoving it down,he shook his head.

"I am greatful for this honor father. But i am not worthy. Not in my brothers eyes."

The primarchs and emporor were surprised. Sanguinus and konrads visions changed. Destiny was changing. The emporor thought deeply.

"I see. What would you suggest then?"

Horus eyed everyone else.

"I suggest instead of one person holding praxis,power is divided between a trusted group of brothers."

Sanguinus was shocked.

"If i may ask horus,who do you believe will suit this wouldbe council?"

Horus eyed the 2 carefully.

"I propose a council of myself,plus six others both in order to keep arguements to a minimum and in order to ensure all of have both sanity,will and wisdom. With your permission."

The emporor nodded.

"As you wish horus. Who would you choose?"

Horus thought about it. A council of 7, allowing for better unity in the wake of foolishness. Then decided.

"These are the 6 who will join me. Sanguinus. Perturabo. Magnus. Leman. Guilliman. And lastly,jaghatai.

Again,fate was denied. Something had spurred horus to change...well,unbeknownst to all save the angel. The emporor nodded.

"I see. What prompted this idea horus,if i may ask?"

Mortarion eyed them. The emporor with fury,horus not as much.

"He does this since he thinks it will minimize the squabbles weve had."

"You do not think so?" Horus asked.

"I merely say,this could lead to trouble. Forgive my rudeness." The pale lord said curtly.

The emporor nodded.

"I will make it official then. ...horus,sanguinus,do you have a moment?" The emporor asked inqusitively.

The 2 nodded and followed.

To be continued...

The Girly Man takes this I’m afraid. The Lion couldn’t even keep control of his own chapter, he’d have been a useless Warmaster. Many of the others are too ego driven or frontline commanders. Mr Ro-booty is the ideal macro-level tactician.

Answer: Anyone but Angron

Man the "Lion El'Heresy" just doesn't have the same ring.

I reckon that it was all planned to a degree. We know the emperor made a deal with the chaos gods for the knowledge to create the primachs. And he seemed to be in a rest to get the crusade completed.

I think part of the deal was some of his sons would be the gods personal tools eventually and some more would be corrupted. Either he was rushing the crusade to try and eliminate the chaos gods before he had to pay up or he knew it would happened and was trying to get as much of the galaxy under his control before the ball dropped.

Letting horus be warmaster was probably partly to hedge his bets and partly, if he won, because he'd be a okay choice as heir.

Should of? Nooooo Not you too hahaha

Vulkan 's my pick for which war master that could win over the Emperor . The hard part would be getting Vulkan to fall . which would be a thing in it's self but it could be done ; Vulkan would only turn to Choas if he thought it were the only way to save humanity, If he believed it was the only way forward . A Corrupted Vulkan , one without kindness , without mercy ; without hesitation , Vulkan unbound . What could stand against him.

If Vulkan says we must rebel...

The lion was not entirely trusted though. His brothers felt he was too closed off, and not entirely comfortable around him.

Someone needs to do a full scale angronian heresy series (the series would be 15 pages long)

Guilleman would have been the best choice and there is no debate about it .. and he wouldnt have fall to chaos

Say what you want about Lorgar, but his armor was always on fleek

Your assessment of Sanguinius military skill is wrong in many ways. Rogal and others like Horus struggled to keep up with not just him but his Legion due to his abilities. He is not better then the Lion obviously but he is close to Dorn, Guilliman and Horus.

I feel like Alpharius would've made a good "shadow warmaster." With Omegon being his "discovered brother." Alpharius understands each of his brothers very well and if he was kept alongside or as an agent of Malcador the heresy could've probably been detected and prevented.

I tell you who should have beem Warmaster.
It should have been Garviel Loken.

"We need someone who can understand emotional conflict between primarchs"
>Picks lion

None of them - Horus was the best of his brothers, he was one of the best fighters, controlled the most effective legion, tactically was a master, he commanded the respect of nearly every primarch... No other would have been better.

I can't understand how some native English speakers can fuck up something as basic as understanding that "Should Of" doesn't make fucking sense

Should of?

Majorkill bends his knees to the lion all the time i swear lol

The question is who wouldnt be the best warmaster, the question is which primarch would have done the least damage as a traitor, because dont forget, whoever became warmaster was always going to betray the emperor.

Ah yes, Horus is my favorite World of Warcraft character.

Yo Konrad would have been a fucking trip oh man that would have been so good people give him a lot of shit and yea he’s completely mad but he had morales as dark as it may seem and did t take the chaos powers he wanted no part he just wanted his dad to hug him and let’s not forget he was a fucking monster to fight arguably top tier

One of the most usless videos you did so far... Sanguinius, yes! Dorn yes! Gorillaman yes! But Lionel ? the always 5th Primarch ? The Guy that made the way for Abby to the golden Throne ? The Guy that shot his own Legioners for telling him the truth ? The guy that where not able to hunt down Konrad on his own ship? The Guy that is not able to unit his own Legion and with 50/50 traitors in his own Legion? All your Lionel love ok but tbh he would even fuck Chaos up ^^
He should play the dog that he was to his father to Gorillaman and follow Gorillaman without own decissons :D Tbh im not a big fan of Gulliman but he could unit the Imperium again... Otherwise he would just make thing worth :) Noone else did so much damage to imperium than Lionel :)

Nooooooo-body!

Personally I don’t think Peter turbo would have been a bad war master I actually think he would have been one of the best choices for the simple fact if he was given the title he wouldn’t have fallen cause it would have been reward and recognition of his sacrifices and hard work that he desperately craved in other words he wouldn’t have turned and would have finished the crusade quickly

Out of all of them, Alpharius would have the best chance of actually winning. Getting the memes of 'hehe Alpharius would just kill the Emperor before he even knew he was a traitor!' out of the way, in all seriousness most of the damage from the Heresy was caused in the opening acts; first when nobody knew it was happening, and then when the loyalists knew that it was happening, but didn't know who was on what side. The Alpha Legion may not have the versatility of the Dark Angels, and Alpharius may not have the charisma of Horus or Sanguinius, but they absolutely shine when it comes to taking advantage of confusion.

I'm imagining the intrigue of the actual heresy but dialed up to 11- The dropsite massacre happens and the burning of Prospero does too, except the Khan is told that Russ went traitor and tried to kill Magnus, so the Khan goes to kill Russ, except the Lion has also been told that the Khan went traitor and to take him in. Loyalist legions are set upon each other, each of them unsure of the allegiance of the others. Meanwhile Alpharius is pulling the strings from Terra, acting the part of the loyal warmaster and somehow getting thwarted at every turn by himself. Maybe he's able to convince fewer legions to join his cause, but he doesn't need many allies so long as he's able to convince the other legions that they are enemies.

The Lion wins again. Though I guess we should be glad he didn't win this in lore.

Horus Lupercal!! Horus 2024!!

"should of" does not exist. Isn't english your native language?

I would argue Guilliman would have been the best choice.

1.) It’s been demonstrated that he has incredible willpower and loyalty to the emperor, to the point of Horus not even really trying to corrupt him

2.) Guilliman’s acknowledged mastery of logistics and administration would’ve left the imperium better positioned at the end of the crusade, as it’s shown one of the stresses of the period shortly before Horus’s fall was the constant pressure of keeping world compliant after initial conquest and the strain of administration was beginning to add up

3.) Guilliman’s approach to warfare involved planning, strategy, and using the right tools for the job, and so as war master I believe he would be able to do the same with the primarchs similar to in Imperium Secundus when he realized his brothers were better fit for certain tasks. You would never see Angron in charge of reorganizing a bureaucracy, Horus being held in reserve needlessly, or Dorne being a spy, but instead each primarch utilized to his strengths

4.) Guilliman may not have been universally beloved by his brothers, but he was at least begrudgingly respected, and shrewd enough to win over key individuals like Fulgrim, Sanguinius, The Lion, etc who could bridge the gaps and unite his brothers behind him.

I know the Ultramarines and Guilliman tend to be over represented and have become a bit Mary Sue like, but I genuinely think he might have just been the best proxy for the emperor because in the end Guilliman wasn’t just a good warrior in one way or another, his true gift was that of statecraft.