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The trinity is a Roman theology on the nature of Jesus. It has no ties to the God of Judaism. Jesus was a Jewish person who practiced Judaism.
ОтветитьHuh???
ОтветитьGod can do what he wants. You can't make a syllogism to prove the trinity wrong. Saying what god can do or saying he had limitations is blasphemous. He created the whole universe and you can't understand him taken a human form lol. Think about it, the biggest question humans have about theology is why does God allow bad and evil things to happen, what better way to say I experienced a human life, I felt pain I was tortured to death for you.
ОтветитьIt doesn’t seam to make sense because it doesn’t. It’s not you it’s them.
Ответить"Trinity" is an oral teaching by St. Augustine when he says "The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. God exalts Himself". St. Augustine is a Roman Catholic monk.
ОтветитьYou simplify too much and make TRINITY more confusing. Because you EXPLAIN NOTHING but only mention TRINITY , wuthout explaining. 😅
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ОтветитьThat was as about as safe and accurate as it gets without drifting off the ideological path into the field of inaccurate analogies
Ответить“To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.” (Isaiah 8:20) When a man and woman marry they become one… “Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.” (Genesis 2:24) This does not now mean that they are both one person, but rather that they are united as one. Christ states plainly that He and His Father are one, meaning united in purpose like man and wife, which is an analogy of Christ and His Church. Christ whilst on Earth, praying to His Father (Two beings) explained this point… “That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:” (John 17:21-22) Therefore, the Father and Son are one, even as the disciples were to be one. Does this now make the disciples one being? No, that’s folly. It means united in purpose. When Christ sent the Holy Spirit He called Him a He, for the Holy Spirit was to come as His ambassador to teach us the truth. Why? Because when God the Son entered into a human body, He lost His ability to be omnipresent. Christ is our High Priest interceding for us on our behalf and cannot leave the sanctuary until that work is complete. For this reason He sent the Holy Spirit on His behalf to teach us the truth. Therefore, you have three persons that make up God, all united in one purpose…“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:” (Matthew 28:19) This is the Godhead, not the trinity which is a false pagan counterfeit of the true. Use your Bible, not your own mind which is evil… “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” (Jeremiah 17:9) God bless
ОтветитьIf Jesus is God, then who was Jesus talking to? Can someone please explain? I still don't understand this. Thank you 🙏
ОтветитьNo where in scripture, does it say or call Yashua the one and only God. But throughout scripture, we are commanded to believe and confess (this is the importance of your salvation) to believe and confess that Jesus is the son of God. No where in scripture does it command to believe that Jesus is God.
What did the high priest and the chief priests accused Jesus of, was it not claiming to be the Son of the Blessed? Mark 14:61 and Matt 26:63
Notice, the Son.
And why is the title of Sonship important? because as a father and son/daughter relationship we are called into. Romans 8:15 we cry out, Abba, Father.
Christ is the son of God and the son of man. God is NOT the son of man.
We are to know Christ as the son of God as the sacrificial lamb of God as the express image of God as the glory of God, he is the door, the only way to God.
so again, let’s be humble as the Eunuch in Acts 8:37 and confess Jesus as the son of God. Anything else you were adding or subtracting from the word of God and your name is subjective to “taken out of the book of Life.”
The only way I can make sense it so far is to realise God cannot be just one person.
Because God is love, and love cannot exist on its own. It has to exist between two people.
But then those two people are separate people. If they are separate then they need to communicate their love for each other through a third person.
Father, Son, Holy Spirit
I already know how to explain the Trinity...it is a demon inspired doctrine or concept that had infiltrated every single ancient pagan culture except one: Israel. Neither did it infiltrate the first century Christians cause Jesus and the apostles were present, but as foretold in 1 Tim. 4:1 in later times demonic teachings would infiltrate Christianity and sure enough it took a pagan emperor in the 4th century to direct this despicable God dishonoring doctrine into counterfeit Christianity and create at the same time the greatest religious monstrosity ever: the Roman Catholic Church. Simple enough?
Nowhere in Scripture will you find the idea or concept or teaching of a triune god, no 3-in-1 or 1-in-3 concept, never the expression 'God the Son' or anything else remotely pointing to a Trinity. God help you, cheers.
The point of the Trinity is not to question the single essence of God, but rather to comprehend the energies of God, or how a single God, who's outside the created world, manifests himself in the created world, so the Hypostasis are the eternal manifestations of God, or more precisely the Spirit of God/Parakletos stands for God's relation with anything in the created world, the Word of God/Logos stands for God's actions in the created world, while the Pater is not exactly a manifestation, but rather the source of both Hypostasis, outside the created world.
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ОтветитьLoved this. Ad intra, ad extra congruence.
ОтветитьThe Jewish faith which is an extract in the old testament they get their revelation from God in Hebrew, the Jewish community were steadfast in upholding their belief of monotheism in accordance to God's manifestation that He is One and that He has no patners. However, the christian faith that we know today came from manmade Greek narratives of the new testament spearheaded by Paul of Tarsus where 14 books were attributed to him and the rest including the alleged gospels of Jesus were not eyewitness accounts but rather fabricated stories where the earliest has come into existence was 40 years after Jesus has left this world. It is in the new testament where they adopted the pagan dogma of the triune god or trinity with the intent of expanding their membership in numbers by accomodating the pagans and the gentiles who were the vast majority of the populace during the Roman empire era which they wanted lured into their fold. As Paul has self proclaimed himself to be the apostle of Jesus it was also this time he added an accolade to himself as the apostle of the gentiles. In Islamic faith where the Quran is God's revelation in Arabic, reiterated again His manifestations of His Oneness and that He has no partners of His being God and reiterating once more in upholding the montheistic belief in Islam just like the Jews. Now you know the truth, do you still follow Paul or God?
ОтветитьIt's a lie
ОтветитьInstructions unclear... I am now Muslim (Alhumdulilah)
ОтветитьIf God the Father sent the Son and the Spirit, it seems that Subordinationism would make sense. Why was subordinationism declared a heresy?
ОтветитьThe Trinity is code for they worship Jesus as their God. The diety of Jesus Christ is something not even taught by Jesus Christ so it's all made up.
ОтветитьThe only way to understand the concept of the trinity is to accept that it cannot be understood.
ОтветитьLet’s define trinity
Here we go .
Tri means 3
Nity = unity
The 3 are unity wow that all we needed !!’
I recently heard from some people that the commanded of Jesus about baptising in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit was added later in the 4th century, but that the apostles baptised in the name of Jesus. What would you say to this?
ОтветитьSaint Augustine tips us off to 2 Kings4…
TRINITY IS AFFIRMED Centuries PRIOR TO CHRIST ….. Go to 2 Kings 4…start at verse 18….A woman’s only son has died. She travels to Eliseus and seeks his help. He first sends his servant Gehazi to lay Eliseus’s staff on the boy but the staff does not bring him to life. So Eliseus comes to her house himself and descends onto the boy matching his eyes,mouth,hands to those of the boy and the boy grows warm….Eliseus walks about then descends a second time but no mention is made of eyes, hands, mouth… the boy sits up and coughs 7 times. Christians believe God descended intimately upon mankind twice. Eliseus symbolizes the One Being…God…who first began to save mankind ( the dead boy) through the Jewish Laws (the staff) for them and anyone else who joined them. But scripture says “the law brought nothing to perfection” ….so the dead boy remains dead…..until Eliseus himself (God Himself) descends on the boy…..First matching his eyes,mouth,hands to the boy as Christ in pain because for a big face to match simultaneously to a small face as to eyes and mouth, the adult must grimace as in pain….moving his mouth upward. The boy ( mankind dead in sin) comes to life at the descent of the Word as Christ in pain on the cross. Then God/ Eliseus descends on mankind again as Holy Spirit on Pentecost 50 days after Easter…and the boy coughs 7 times…the number of gifts of the Holy Spirit in Isaiah. Thus an old testament Jewish writer of the Bible revealed the Trinity
TRINITY IS AFFIRMED Centuries PRIOR TO CHRIST ….. Go to 2 Kings 4…start at verse 18….A woman’s only son has died. She travels to Eliseus and seeks his help. He first sends his servant Gehazi to lay Eliseus’s staff on the boy but the staff does not bring him to life. So Eliseus comes to her house himself and descends onto the boy matching his eyes,mouth,hands to those of the boy and the boy grows warm….Eliseus walks about then descends a second time but no mention is made of eyes, hands, mouth… the boy sits up and coughs 7 times. Christians believe God descended intimately upon mankind twice. Eliseus symbolizes the One Being…God…who first began to save mankind ( the dead boy) through the Jewish Laws (the staff) for them and anyone else who joined them. But scripture says “the law brought nothing to perfection” ….so the dead boy remains dead…..until Eliseus himself (God Himself) descends on the boy…..First matching his eyes,mouth,hands to the boy as Christ in pain because for a big face to match simultaneously to a small face as to eyes and mouth, the adult must grimace as in pain….moving his mouth upward. The boy ( mankind dead in sin) comes to life at the descent of the Word as Christ in pain on the cross. Then God/ Eliseus descends on mankind again as Holy Spirit on Pentecost 50 days after Easter…and the boy coughs 7 times…the number of gifts of the Holy Spirit in Isaiah. Thus an old testament Jewish writer of the Bible revealed the Trinity….
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ОтветитьActually really liked this. Keep it simple. The only missing part was the clarification that each person is also fully 100% God—that God’s essence is one and not divided into three parts.
ОтветитьWhat denomination are you????
ОтветитьHeresy! A design made by early Christians that was politically negotiated at the council of Nicea about 300 a.d.
ОтветитьJohn 17:3 This is what has been done to a plain and precious truth in the holy Bible. Sola scriptural. If it isn't biblical, it isn't doctrinal.
ОтветитьBetter yet: A rope is composed of three strands. If one unravels it a little, one will see the three strands that remain a single rope composed of three strands. The three strands are similar, but not the same, they are individual strands forming a rope. They are one in nature, character and objective.
ОтветитьIncredibly ignorant of the word......Jesus and God are one. True and if you belong to the Lord, YOU are ONE! Being one with God does not make YOU the One True God. In Heaven, who leads us in worshipping God? That King and High Priest named Yehoshua the very Son of God. He leads us.....as in the Good Shepherd!
Jesus is "given" all power and authority, who gave him power and authority?
Deuteronomy 18:15, 18-19 who is that promised prophet to come?
Answer: Acts 3:22-26
Matthew 20:23 and Mark 10:37 "it is not mine to give" wait, God does as he pleases....God has all authority!
Matthew 26:39 and Mark 14:36 "Father remove this cup, not my will but thy will be done" Who raised the VERY DEAD JESUS? Romans 10:9 and yes, he was dead Revelation 1:18 kjv.
John 3:16 - He is the SON....God is ONE! and there are NO OTHERS! Mark 12:29-31 kjv.
The Gospel is not meant to be a confusing, bewildering puzzle.
If it took 381 years after the resurrection to figure out all the difficult details of the Trinity Doctrine... maybe it's incorrect?
The Trinity doctrine is pagan!
ОтветитьTrinity fake 110% Bible say notting about trinity proof it you make up 😅
ОтветитьI searched "Is Trinity Pagan" on google. The results said Trinity has Pagan roots. You can search it up too.
ОтветитьCan we take a moment to appreciate real life Ned Flanders?
ОтветитьUgh. This made it worse. I'm just going back to being Jewish.
ОтветитьThis makes perfect sense! Let me add; our understanding is limited to what we know as humans. How would any of you be able to explain that God always was? We can say it, but our minds don't really comprehend this, because humans only know a beginning & an end. That's where faith comes in.
ОтветитьFred Sanders, the one telling us that He alone is our God is Christ. Remember when Christ was on the Cross? He said, "My God, My God, why have you forsaken Me." The reason is because all the sins of the world were placed on Him, and the Father has nothing to do with sin.
"I said, 'You are gods [elohim], and all of you are sons of the Most High'" (Psalm 82:6). If Adonai says, you are a god, who can argue against it? "So the Adonai said to Moses: 'See, I have made you as God to Pharaoh, and Aaron your brother shall be your prophet'" (Exodus 7:1). The term "God," is a title that means One who has all power and all dominion over what EL SHADDAI gives. All power and dominion was given to the Son of God, the Messiah, whose true name is YAHSHUA.
This is what biblical Christians believe, and we are few (Matthew 7:13-14):
“Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel,
And his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts:
‘I am the First and I am the Last;
Besides Me there is no God.
And who can proclaim as I do?
Then let him declare it and set it in order for Me,
Since I appointed the ancient people.
And the things that are coming and shall come,
Let them show these to them.
Do not fear, nor be afraid;
Have I not told you from that time, and declared it?
You are My witnesses.
Is there a God besides Me?
Indeed there is no other Rock;
I know not one'" (Isaiah 44:6-8 NKJV).
Who is speaking here? Who is the Rock?
The Answer: Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, all ate the same spiritual food, and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ" (1 Corinthians 10:1-4).
The Father, the all in all G-d, gave all things to YAHSHUA (Matthew 28:18).
I am not a Trinitarian, however, the Father gave all things to the only begotten Son of God, and He alone has the right to claim it, as He has, and as recorded in Isaiah 44, and many other places in the Bible. "No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him" (John 1:18). We do not know the Father, not Israel, and not the Gentiles except through YAHSHUA HaMachiach, our only God until all things are fulfilled and sin and death are no more, and then, our Savior, the Messiah of Israel, will turn everything back over to God the Father, who ultimately is the only true God (1 Corinthians 15:20-28). The Trinity is manmade and never revealed by God.
According to these comments, you didn't come across to well.
ОтветитьHow I understood. It. Is the human expierence. I make a child from myself and we have the bond. And god sent himself down. And made covenant with us and the Holy Spirit is what binds our spirits with his . To denie the holy spirt is denie what god did for us And is why thier all in one He gave us the salvation and we got to walk in the spirit. The connection he gave us
ОтветитьThe corn. The foolish virgins, will follow as the identity to God, is the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit, as being God, but the wise virgins, will follow as the identity to God, is the Alpha, and the Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last as being God. The trinity cannot lead you to a perfect understanding of God, but the Alpha, and the Omega, the beginning, and the end, the first and the last, can lead you to a perfect understanding of God. Welcome to the dispensation of The Spirit Of Truth.
ОтветитьI even more confused now?
Ответить"The Trinity is God as the Father sending the Son sending the Spirit"
1. (Greek) Orthodox Trinity would disagree with the filioque, saying the Son doesn't send the Spirit
2. Non-Trinitarianism also believes that the Father sends the Son sends the Spirit, that's not the issue. Even Mormonism believes the Father sends the Son and Spirit at some form.
Simple explanation could and should work in God’s word. For instance, God is immortal and can not die in any way, shape, or form. Yet, Jesus died. It , the bible, never explains how God, or a part of God can and did die.
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