How to Mix Audio Levels for Films & Movies - Introduction to Cinema Sound for Indie Films Part 01

How to Mix Audio Levels for Films & Movies - Introduction to Cinema Sound for Indie Films Part 01

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Zazy.cz🎚Vše o zvuku
Zazy.cz🎚Vše o zvuku - 02.09.2023 12:49

Hello, this is very useful content. I would like to make CZ subtitles and so on. Where can I upload it?

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pip jersey
pip jersey - 07.09.2022 08:56

this explains why when im watching most movies i can barely hear the dialogue but then an intense scene happens and its way too loud

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Steve George
Steve George - 07.03.2022 14:21

Very interesting, thank you. I also follow Sir Curtis Judd.

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Ebery Dae Tv
Ebery Dae Tv - 31.01.2022 06:16

Thanks what is the plugin called

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Chris McKenna
Chris McKenna - 23.10.2021 12:48

New Dune film brought me here.

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Dinitha Gunathilake
Dinitha Gunathilake - 06.07.2021 18:20

This guy knows his shit

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Tristan Morelle
Tristan Morelle - 05.02.2021 15:41

but you don't have a cinema master of your fav movie only the DVD master, which is probably not the same?

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Raúl Miguel Zepeda Credi
Raúl Miguel Zepeda Credi - 25.09.2020 21:13

Thanks :D

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Quatermass
Quatermass - 03.09.2020 07:15

Just wondering, when calibrating speakers and DAW to 85dB SPL, do we normalise that pink noise file to 100%, 
and with the track it's on, set that track volume at 0.00 db?

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James Boss
James Boss - 24.04.2020 12:30

Very informative, mixing my movie right now and this information helped me a lot. Thnx.

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AVIOZSTUDIO
AVIOZSTUDIO - 10.01.2020 00:00

this is why i mix at very low volume and it will fix all dynamic range problems... ..

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ratboyninja
ratboyninja - 27.07.2019 10:34

Dialog is always king

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Kim In The Mix
Kim In The Mix - 02.05.2019 14:39

Very well explained.

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Mikayla Theone Khramov
Mikayla Theone Khramov - 02.05.2019 00:30

What about mixing for documentary?

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Dave Werner
Dave Werner - 09.04.2019 17:46

There's a science to this?? Wow.

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GeometrikMind
GeometrikMind - 01.02.2019 12:50

Perfect! =)

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 Geoff
Geoff - 22.12.2018 00:30

So I mixed my short film first by keeping dialogue at around -12db, and my music is some times louder depending on the scary movements, However, the sub 40hrz and lower I seem to be struggling with.
I plan on putting this in film festivals but knowing full well that sometimes people will have a sub woofer and other not. So where would the sweet spot be without killing people in a theater with sub info or on the other end, loosing the power of the sub in very specific spots of my video that would loose its impact with out the sub.

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Yeray Navarro Suarez
Yeray Navarro Suarez - 27.09.2018 14:25

This is gold.

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Atul Swami
Atul Swami - 12.09.2018 21:23

Thank you so much for your insightfull and extremely valuable knowledge sharing video. I am facing a trouble in Delhi/India (PAL transmission standard) and totally unable to troubleshoot.
My audio output sounds well on every media except T.V.
Problem is audio is loud enough in the starting but as it proceeds, it gradually gets supressed. if we revind it a few seconds, the same audio sounds loud.
No where I have found any solution as yet.

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J. Borda
J. Borda - 28.08.2018 09:40

Brilliant!

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David’s
David’s - 28.04.2018 01:41

sorry, what is the actual reference specs to relate to, and what is the main institution that fixes levels and any other parameters? Dolby? Ebu? I hope my question makes sense,

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YoungBlaze
YoungBlaze - 02.04.2018 03:53

whats the name of this program he's talking about

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Joe Ryco Music
Joe Ryco Music - 11.09.2017 06:40

Wow awesome

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Shrey Tyagi
Shrey Tyagi - 25.05.2017 15:03

That is Dolby 7 level. If I put an effect at -2 level, then it will come out at 105 - 2=103dB. Right? And according to that, the dialogue should be mixed at -45dB (105 - 45 = 60dB). 😨 Isn't that tooooo low? Even if I have a loud 85dB scream, still I need to mix at -20 dB. Please tell me if what I wrote is right or not.

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erikals
erikals - 24.04.2017 18:05

Great!! Thank You!! :)

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osama Irshad
osama Irshad - 16.04.2017 11:04

Hey,
I am new in film making. I want to have audio similar like we have in Hollywood or Bollywood. The films made here in Pakistan don't have that dynamic sound like we have in Hollywood &Bollywood. Kindly suggest me sound equipments.

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Jane Willow
Jane Willow - 23.03.2017 20:40

Hiya bacon tree. How would you say the levels are just as you see them on the mixer. What level would dialogue, music and effects be. And what range? I heard dialogue is somewhere between -6 to -12 dB. But I'm not sure if I'm correct.

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Flow Beatz805
Flow Beatz805 - 15.02.2017 19:19

Cool insight! Im starting on the XboxOne GrandTheftAutoV tho. Thanks!

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respekt200
respekt200 - 19.12.2016 19:29

Saying that conversation have to be at 50-63db????... - that's a total nonsense.
This is amateur not a pro audio, very confusing explanation of the subject.

In to words: from -12 up to even -9 must be your very highest level, the limit/peak of loudness. That's your "jump out of your seat" moments. And based on this limits you "build" your overall sound stage, your medium levels, and softest passages. That's your taste and creativity.
Dynamic RANGE is much wider in film than TV.
Small rooms calibrated using the pink noise to 85dB SPL.

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George Hales
George Hales - 28.11.2016 01:45

thank you so much! I'm just finishing up a clip to be marked on an audio production course, little was touched on regarding levels andmixing though this gave me some direction to go in. Thank you very much!

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Tony Elk
Tony Elk - 11.11.2016 04:08

I always watch this video from time to time, very informative.. I am currently working on a 7.1 mix in a very small room (approx. 3.4 x 4), i calibrated my speakers to have the L R Ls Rs Lc and Rc on 85dB and the C on 82dB.. I did so using pink noise measuring the RMS, individually calibrating each speaker. Sometimes when I'm adding a loud SFX, it appears to be super loud.. Is this normal ? I'm pretty sure the peak level is sometimes way over 85, almost painful.. and I never go up more than - 3db on my digital levels.

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TheChosenOne
TheChosenOne - 18.10.2016 05:36

Just so you guys know....there is so much more to this. Don't think after watching this video that you know everything. There is so much more complex analysis than you think. You need to do a lot of research. The information, unfortunately, is so scattered and there are no finalized set standards yet.

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Sy Eckbe
Sy Eckbe - 09.10.2016 05:14

I'm so fascinated by cinema sound and still new to sound mixing. I have a lot of questions :p You mention comparing our favorite movie sound mix with our own when mixing our projects. Aren't DVD's sound levels completely different than theatrical releases as in the case of TV Ads or Internet content? Lastly, the title says "independent films" so are studio films loudness different than indies?

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Ronney Dotel
Ronney Dotel - 28.08.2016 16:47

Thanks a lot! Nice explanation! 👍

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Shrey Tyagi
Shrey Tyagi - 29.07.2016 20:53

Very nice video. I am a beginner (I almost know nothing!). In a 7.1 system, if each of three front speaker can go atmost 85dB (It will clip if we put something louder than 85dB), and each individual array of surround channels can also produce 85 dB max ( I mean 85dB max for each surround CHANNEL). Then the only way to give a quick 2 second loud effect of 95dB is by sending the signal to all three front speakers (or any three depending on the position of sound). Am I right or wrong or is this simply a very dumb question?

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Jaymin
Jaymin - 12.07.2016 00:28

thanks man. i loved that last advice of putting my favourite movie on timeline and checking.

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Felipe Gonzalez
Felipe Gonzalez - 11.07.2016 22:06

Nice video, well explained and super clean, congrats!

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Lee Sharp
Lee Sharp - 24.04.2016 22:26

As a production sound recordist there has never been much explanation what happens to the audio I record after I hand to over in terms of level.

I had a scene the there day with such whispering that I had pushed the gain very high. to be able to get an average level of between -20 and -12dbfs or PPM 4 to PPM .6 Now when monitoring off the 664 at 0db/line It gives a horrific sounding back ground noise and a very live sound, you can hear the room a almost too much.

However, turn the headphone monitor down to -12db and it suddenly sounds lovely, clear dialogue and a a dry silent background.

So my question is, how is the audio standardised so on TV at home or the cinema you don't hear the noise floor as you do when monitoring production sound or the reflections of the room? Comparatively what level is it set to? how do the levels transcend?

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Madzor
Madzor - 18.04.2016 12:18

Excellent work there! Oh and a great day to everybody reading this! :)

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Michel Plourde
Michel Plourde - 02.04.2016 10:47

This is a great lecture.

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Christopher Thorkon
Christopher Thorkon - 01.03.2016 02:39

Very awesome and I just love the way you explain things in a way that is informative but does not feel intimidating either.

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katkatCSI
katkatCSI - 18.02.2016 16:18

What exactly is this cinema simulation? software? Can we find it somewhere? Thank you

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Smokee Whine
Smokee Whine - 17.01.2016 11:29

very helpful video thanks

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Carlos Bruno
Carlos Bruno - 17.12.2015 21:28

Thank you Buck for your video.

I work in my little office (bedroom size) in my basement. I mixed in 5.1 and encoded in Dolby, made a Bluray copy and showed in 3 different theaters and it worked very well the 5.1. However, I need real help because the truth of the matter is that I am never sure if my tracks are too loud for the theater (and perhaps the projectionist had to bring the volume down).
My levels were: dialogue -6, effects up to -9 or even to 0. Ambient and Foley -24. Is this OK or not?

Second question, I am now remastering for DCP which uses raw PCM and no compression at all. Would my levels be too loud for the theaters ?

It will be awesome to know how to do it right. I want it to make it perfect for DCP and I cannot have clear answer. Thank you all.

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Luke Covert
Luke Covert - 11.12.2015 19:51

Is there any other information about the x-curve? Maybe I missed some details somewhere, but I'm very curious as to what that would look like!

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Shane Taylor
Shane Taylor - 28.09.2015 12:23

Buck, I have this nagging question about the different monitoring/calibration levels quoted for different room sizes. For example, the 'standard' is 85 dBC, but I've also read/seen directions to use 82-83 for mid-size rooms, and even 79 dBC for small home studios. So, I guess my question is, why use lower values for smaller rooms, even with nearfield monitors? Isn't 85 dBC still "85dBC" at the listening position regardless of the room. After all, that IS what you measured from your monitors when calibrating them at the listening position, right? One video said that for small rooms, using 79 will ensure that your mix will fit into main mix at larger studios. Why calibrate to anything other than 85? I don't understand that rationale. Cheers!

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Petar Maksimovic
Petar Maksimovic - 26.09.2015 00:24

This guy knows stuff.

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