Samsung reveals solid-state battery with 600-mile range & 9-minute charging

Again, no discussion about whether these batteries work and how efficient they are in cold temperatures. Sam, you don't seem to realize that a huge portion of the people that might actually buy EVs with these types of batteries live in climates that are much cooler than your Australia. Get it through your head that when you present your reports on new potentially upcoming important battery technologies, the first question that a large percentage of your audience will ask is will it work where I live? If these batteries you're talking about lose a huge percentage of their range in colder temperatures, they're a non-starter in most of the world so if your videos don't make any attempt to address and answer these questions, they're not of much relevance to a large portion of the world.

“They’ll smoke ICE”

The only way they’re smoking ICE is if we solve the fusion issue because the world is dead set on AI and LLM’s use a crapload of electricity, there’s nowhere near enough capacity for EV’s as it is let alone LLM’s and the remaining power we use as humanity in general.

I get you want to be positive but you have to be realistic.

It will only go in premium EVs because they literally don't have the Silver available to make them. Each battery requires 1 KG of silver

China will produce and make it cheaper

It's ironic considering Samsung has been in the lead for all the problems they have had over the past decade trying to make usable batteries that don't catch fire or turn into a spicy pillow.

Good news, at least it’s at the pilot stage instead beyond theory. Will the battery costs more than a car? How much will insurance cover the cost of the battery in the event of an accident?

It sounds promising as a technology. It could make EVs competitive, at least for a while. Don't get too excited about "competition", this technology doesn't necessitate competition, that's all business and greed. Monopoly will happen with this technology too, eventually.

They spent the time and money on the R&D to develop the technology, so of course they're going to try to get the best price possible. EV demands have now been established. The high end EVs will utilize the best batteries on the market and can afford to pay premium prices.

Hold on, I just realized something about the 9 minute charging. Couldn’t a reserve system be placed on the side so it works alongside the infrastructure? If that was installed in between the chargers and infrastructure then there would be no issue with getting 9 min charging up and running and wouldn’t hurt infrastructure.

A Plaid would be mind-bogglingly fast with these solid-state lightweight batteries. It would rival some of the fastest top fuel dragsters.

Think of all the swell robots that need these batteries.

I could see charging stations with power banks to offset the high electric demands. They can recharge on low demand times. Perhaps they will be the plastic batteries I have been reading about. I don't see solar panels incorporated to the stations since they wouldn't provide much, but you never know.

Samsung dominates. All these Western tech companies rely on samsung. Isreal just had a "innovation-day" with South korea. Its a joke. Israel is not innovative and just steals samsung tech.

Why this obsession with range? Its like the German manufacturers chasing 700 hp! Whats the point , my vw polo can drive just fast as a porche , because we have seriously policed speed limits. No one will drive 600 miles without a break.

Why would Toyota or Nissan share its prototypes when they're for in-house vehicles?

2027 will be exciting times, 2030 is when solid states will be more commonplace in mid to high-end BEVs. Reduced Thermal runaway risk is well worth it for any manufacturers.

Betamax has arrived!

Ford motor has had a patent for 5-minute charging. They used a liquid cooled charger cable.

You talk and show some ai generated videos. Where is it and what does it look like?

600kW charging does not require a large infrastructure compared to nominal fast chargers. The business model completely changes at this rate of charge.

The possibilities are wildly interesting because no additional grid capacity is needed! Nearly zero grid expansion is necessary to convert most of the vehicles in the world to 600kW charging. The key to understanding this is the concept of duty cycle in two regards: 1) in relation to charge cycle efficiency, and 2) Power duty cycle constraints, like how many times per hour can these batteries efficiently charge/discharge. The charging infrastructure will mostly exist as a DC-DC transfer between vehicles with in (maybe) 150’ radius in a parking lot. Peer-to peer power exchange and arbitrage means that there’s infinite financing methods to achieve scale much faster than the existing models. There’s the possibility of fueling off grid or remote power stations so that 100% of current routes would be accessible.

Imagine driving across country and at every planned or unplanned stop, you can sell your excess power and frequency into the local network of vehicles. You park with the equivalent of 300 out of 600 miles of range, so it’ll only take 4 minutes to charge… but your stopping for a hour for lunch so you might as well share your power with the network. Your vehicle has the potential to discharge and re-charge up to 8 times in the 56 minutes remaining while you have lunch. That’s 4 other vehicles that you could potentially have been acting as a temporary transfer charging node within that local grid, which has multiple value streams depending upon supply/demand and location. Imagine parking your Tesla truck somewhere demand requests while you take your family on vacation for a month… the return on capital should be equivalent to the average market returns to the same vehicle in motion… and this enables power companies to reduce peak loading substantially, while increasing output to its maximum during low demand period, simply because there’s always an anticipated (calculable) capacity to absorb the AC transmission convert to DC at an 600kw/24h= 25kW/hr maximum capacity for any vehicle’s onboard converter. Then the only additional infrastructure necessary is the heavy gauge wire needed to transfer high power DC between vehicles.

Imagine a state of emergency evacuation where the local power grid is offline due to natural disasters or threat of your choice. In this scenario, the entire fleet of 600kW vehicles could all get at least 25% of their average range, eve if the fleet had been drained to 50% at the onset of the power distribution. That’s a 150 mile radius with ZERO additional power from the grid… anywhere on the planet, even sharing power between massive cargo ships while in transit anywhere with calm enough seas to share an umbilical cord.

Someone must have imagined this, no? This could be a disruptive change that I’m guessing Tony Seba (sp?) or Amory Lovins might have seen coming.

Of course, we’d have to run the numbers as my example suggests 100% duty-cycle and reasonable DC transmission losses, which can be designed to be equivalent to the excess power losses on the AC transmission during peak demand. This creates a balanced grid and alignment of stakeholder interest towards a new marketplace: a shared Power Community… so, unless you’re in Communist China, it might not happen with Neoliberal Austerity headwinds being what they are. Let’s hope that manufacturers recognize the National Security implications of their strategic planning efforts. The potential cannot be underestimated if the numbers hold.

The above example is optimistic but I’m selling my gas vehicles ASAP. Best of all, these minimal infrastructure local charge depots are portable so that seasonal shifts will allow infrastructure to shift geographically to optimal distribution based on predictable factors. It’s almost a self-healing electric grid that could be economically viable under conditions of Economic Dislocation, Civil disorder and the expectated necessity for mass population migrations as successive Institutions and Empires collapse.

This model is also de-scalable and could be implemented under conditions of tribal warfare and could easily be integrated into a CBDC or other blockchain register… so, it could be used for peace or warfare.

Systemic Revolution would be to decentralize the incentive structure of market agents, prevent regional monopolies and reduce rentier exploitation through municipal ownership. The downsides of implementing this under conditions of Corporate-Neofeudalism are effectively taking our existing monetized debt-slavery economy and regressing towards chattel-slave market up through and including the Professional Managerial Classes (PMC), which is the current trajectory of Western Civilization.

Now do you see why China is accused of having a crisis of overproduction? Can you see why Tariffs and Sanctions only delay the inevitable surrender to Multipolarity, with the abundance created by such a shift in the commodification and distribution of electric power.

This has an Ubuntu political movement potential, or you might as well sell your children to the highest bidder because (if trends hold) they’ll be worthless in the labor market and will likely be considered population overburden by your parasitic classes of Overlords.

Black market power syndicates also expand exponentially, so grifters will be endemic, which is one more rationale for CBDC totalitarian financial control policies now being imposed upon by the SWIFT affinity / NATO “allies” / partners in crime.

600 miles range. Maybe in sunny Southern California, in the flats no wind on a moped.

Why would you like a 600mile range with a high recharge speed?

Charging in 9 minutes is OK, my university just announced a battery holding 1000 km and charging in 10 min, and they do not make mistakes, no lithium

Until it is available on Amazon, it is vaporware.

My first car was a used 280ZX. It had a 24-gallon gas tank and could easily make 600 miles. In fact, it had a second fuel gage that only covered the last 1/4 of the tank.

Firstly please give the information about the availability of battery in market.

Just do BATTERY SWAPPING like NIO....

Where is it? Toyota said they have one. NASA said they have developed one too. The important thing to me is that the Solid State battery seems to be a game changer. I hope we can see them in EVs soon, because the oil companies have declared war on the EVs.

The most not reason people want a long range in a battery is due the lack of charging stations and the time it takes to charge. Look I don’t have a ev but if I get 350ish at 15mph in my pilot and most other SUV’s are the same who cares. But wait road trips where am I going to recharge? Do they exist yes but you have to plan a bit more on when and where you charge vs meh I got 60 miles to go I can make it. You can’t do that with a ev because it might be 100 miles to the next charger. I see chargers all over the city but road trips is where it lacks. I think it’s awesome to have a 600 mile range even up to a 1000. I’m waiting for solid state to be a thing and it’s happening, but it’s not ready yet and we need the chargers for road trips to improve. Final note my wife would be pissed if I had to pull over to recharge and it took longer than a few minutes, so until it becomes that quick we will be stuck or just use fuel cell.

Five years ago it was five years away and here we are still five years away.

They also be great in Electric bicycles.

If range is that high the need for charging stations is almost zero.

This is a big development though, scaling up from small batteries for applications like pacemakers to a car sized battery. Hopefully it won't take 6 years for manufacturing improvements to bring the cost down to where ordinary non-hypercar vehicles can start using them.

Its not an oxide based solid state battery but a sulfide based (probably journalism mistake). Samsung has been known to research sulfide based solid state batteries for years. I doubt it will be able to mass produce "oxide" based solid state batteries so quickly.

Talk to me when something is commercially available

Well, this only means that the battery manufacturer is marketing their batteries to EV manufacturers as suffucient to build EV's with that range. Most of that range will still be from the efficiencies, weight reductions, terrain and aerodynamics not from fully replicating the energy storage of gasoline wnd diesel of UCE vehicles with that range. We'll still have to see if an EV manufacturer mansges to achieve such range that are consistent enough to satisfy their customers. Just talk to Tesla owners in Hawaii to see how the mountanous terrain makes the range claims on efficiency, weight reductions, terrain and aerodynamics do not meet their needs.

I think it's positive that there are so many such claims from battery manufacturers but we have to wait for actual EV's that are made with such ranges before saying much about this, right now it's just marketing from battery manufacturers.

No one has won anything until its in a vehicle and kicking ass on the streets.

I also state I have such a battery...likewise to samsung noone will ever see it outside of my mind.

I’m allway skeptical of long lifespan claims because they always base it on unrealistically low daily usage. More like 5 to 10 years. Better bee cheep to replace

been hearing about this solid state thing for past 2 decades or more first it was said to comes to phone but until today still nothing. until a real solid state battery is on product usable stable then i will believe

Gas and diesel is NOT finished because you're little tech still requires a massive increase in power production and other infrastructure. Less cultist talk more realism.

We are one revolution away from the death of ICE. Thank God.

NxU has some MW chargers in Arizona.

Samsung were exploding not long ago in phones... Stick with catl

Battery is not the future. sorry I don't believe it every work.

Oil companies will stop this 😑

A smaller battery (say 30kWh) would be lighter making the vehicle more efficient and, if it charges quickly (which solid state batteries do) then a 30kWh charge could take just 5-10 minutes. Just enough time to get to the toilet and back... A 30kWh pack would also mean double the number of vehicles from the same kWh of battery. This is a win-win-win!

8min charging speed and 600 mile. 🤔🤔🤔. Samsungs strategic advertising as always. It's kind of sweet spot , for assurance to anyones fear of adapting EV, range anxiety and charging speed. They solved both in one sentence. 😅😅.
And who cares about premium cars, i personally dont. If their claim is bold as they say , they rather make their way toeards trucking industry. Thats where the money is at.
Anyway , if their claim is true , ICE car industry is toast. Not ICE cars though, there always will be new ICE cars.