Why do we Love the Partisan? #BattleTech Lore & History

Ahh a Kallon product, if it fly's and is smaller then a warship it dies to Kallons unending hatred of all that flies. And the warship bit is because how hard it is to make a mobile gun battery that can kill a warship from the ground. I am sure Kallon has those plans sitting around somewhere just waiting for someone with enough cash to make Kallons antiair and orbital denial dream weapon a reality.

The GR Partisan is basically an alternative GR Demolisher that sacrifices armor for additional shinny kit. Which is fair if you need a Demolisher but only have Partisan hulls.

Its a cool dakka tank. And Im painting my silly AC2 variant for a game in the future. The random force generation in MekTek is just pure awesome. Cheers

Great video. I can’t wait to get my hands on a couple to help keep the skies above the hextable clear!

The little autocannon platform that could.

Partisan go BRRRRRRT!

Hmm the MF version, I would of expected it to be SB Gauss, as I though the way you kill an Aero vehicle is by critting it to death. (unless its a light VOTL as it will fall by just giving it a hard stare]

It's me, I'm the RAC fan giving you tinnitus

While I like your version of the Partisan, I think it kinda misses the spirit of being an AA platform. I came up with my own variant that takes that concept and runs with it. It has 5 tons of heavy ferro-fibrous armor plus CASE, giving it functionally identical protection to a Succession Wars-era Partisan, and a fuel cell engine. What's it got for armament?

Eight Light AC/2s, linked to a targeting computer, and fed by five tons of ammo. Now, before you ask what the hell I'm smoking, think about it. Light AC/2s can fire special munitions, like AP rounds, the targeting computer offsets the accuracy penalty of that ammunition, and each hit is gonna go through the armor and hit something on the other side like weapons, ammo, engines, gyros, actuators etc.. Firing eight of these at once you can potentially take out an otherwise undamaged enemy battlemech in a single salvo depending on what components your shots hit. You can take one or two tons of AP rounds for dealing with enemy armor while the rest is flak shells for its intended role.

I'm starting to use VTOLs in Alpha Strike. I hope my foe isn't watching this.

Ah yes, the Partyvan as it was sometimes called in Living Legends. Fun vehicle and weapon carrier platform - can really just shove as much weapons and ammo as it you can on it.

Yeah the MechFrog Variants my favorite

Guys MF might be sick there was no war crime variants anywhere.

I had a nice Tank Battle game. My custom 75-ton tanks vs. Partisans and other ground vehicles. I had 20 units to capture a Union-class DropShip before it could power up and launch. I divided up my units into 4 lances of 5 and attacked in different directions with a crew of 6 gunnery and 6 piloting. Even with a speed and range advantage, The Partisans were a pain to get past. They delayed me long enough for the Dropship to power up to take off... Only just barely.
Rules: Custom tanks must cost under 15 million, no energy weapons, ECM, Arrow IV, Clan equipment,
My Battle tank stats were this:
Weight: 75 tons
BV: 1,384
Cost: 14,406,875 C-bills
Movement: 5/8 (Tracked) Engine: 375 XL
Internal: 40 Armor: 188 (Ferro-Fibrous)
Front: 8/47
Right: 8/37
Left: 8/37
Rear: 8/25
Turret: 8/42

Weapon: Gauss Rifle TU1 3tons of ammo 24
Equipment: Trailer Hitch RR
Targeting Computer [IS] BD

What I should have done also is made a lance of tanks with a 9tons FF armor and equipped them with Sniper Cannons with 3 tons of ammo 30(Shots) It would have helped to clear away the riff-raff for my other other tank to blow threw. The AOE of the cannon would have made the job easier. Now that I think about it Thumper Cannons would have worked great as well and have a lot of ammo of different types.

The Partisan: "Yes you could have legs and some lasers with the Rifleman, but how about using the same amount of money for two and half Partisans for 5 times the AC5s?" Thanks for the video.

Great video! I was looking for the MF plasma rifle variant. Looking forward to more videos.

Ribbit ribbit . Hay I have a request . An you do a video on the ares mecha

But MechFrog, you did not include the Rotary Flamer variant! This was clearly intentional and malicious! 😂😂😂

Used a few Partisans in an urban fight against a lance of LAMs. End result was a LAM scrapyard.

laughs in 4 RAC-2 variant from Mechwarrior Living Legends

Why isn't the LB-X on the basic variant? Normal autocannons are too normal AA units should be shooting shotgun shells at the enemy aircraft

Partisans are fun. You had me at blamblam.

Little known fact: Kallon's pathological hatred of flying things comes from the overabundance of mosquito breeding grounds near their design office.

The Partisan, when you want to play "Peek-a-boo, I'll delete you" with helicopters, accept no substitutes.

In my headcanon, someone at Kallon really hated pigeons.

Partisan, for when you need an instant no fly zone.

The economical solution for air defense or direct fire support. Pair this baby up with a pike or two and a bodyguard and VTOLs, conventional airfighters and even Aero-space fighters will think twice about assaulting your position.

The achilles heel of this tank is that its basically defenseless against fast close range mechs and vehicles. Even a locust can be a serious threat given enough time or some lucky hits. The two machineguns are sorely inadequate for anything but suicidal infantry platoons. Put a bulldog or patton in that lance though and things might look a bit different.

The original partisan isnt the best for offensive actions though due to its rather low armor coupled with its slow speed. Its an easy target and only a couple of PPC or AC10 hits will turn the tank into a scrap heap, so carefull usage is adviced.

That low ammo count! Nice vid.

Outstanding

Nice anti air. More battle armor suits please

While the MF varient is nice, it needed more Plasma Rifles.

Being a mostly 3025 player, I will rarely use the more advanced versions, but I'm going to save yours. Quite simply, the thought of an op force coming to take out an anti-air position and running into Partisans is bad enough... when a couple of mini-demolishers pop up to reach out with Gause rifles from amongst the pack the attackers might just have a bad day! Always good to have a few Partisans of whatever type around base, keeps the pesky fly's away :) My .02 c-bills on the matter.

Very interesting! A very useful vehicle.
Good to see a Donar mentioned in there. I’ll have to check out that novel. I love that VTOL.

Hello Frog.
YOINK!!
I am definitely going to take the MF variant out for a good 'test drive' or two.
In the past, I've used Partisans fairly often, especially against the Clans. In fact, in one battle against them, I fielded nothing but vehicles. No Mechs of any sort or weight. The Clan player kept trying to find my 'missing' Mechs, and kept running into tanks in concealed and fortified positions. His air assets were the first to fall, and then the tanks took up the battle against his Mechs. The Partisan tanks were especially good at killing off his Elementals. Enough so, that he would only deploy them behind his Mechs when his Mechs started taking fire from my other tanks. This turn of events let me focus the Partisans against individual Clan Mechs and overwhelm them with firepower.
The best aspect of the battle was that even though I 'lost' in the end against his more mobile forces, I basically crippled his ability to take the planet, and severely inhibited his ability to move on to another world. Add in the fact that everything I 'lost' was easily replaced, in numbers, and cost a fraction of his losses. I would call that a serious 'win' for my forces. Even though they 'lost' the battle.
It also showed the other Player the value of logistics. A lesson he didn't take to heart until he 'won' more battles like that and suddenly didn't have enough forces to continue to take worlds I defended. Yeah, it sucks to 'win' and yet have your ass handed to you by just tanks. Them's the breaks.
After several such battles, the Player demanded that I field Mechs. So, I did. ONLY 'Light' Mechs though and as many as I could while keeping up a good force of tanks to allow my own Mechs to have a 'base of fire' to fall back upon when pressed by Clan forces.
Oh, the complaints I got! The whines and objections were music to my ears. :)

I was just wondering when you'd do another tank :D also another thing re air power vs ground in BT is /lasers/ exist. Heavy gear does that to be why air power is not what it was most planes and votols in that are stealth units due to that. (Look Heavy Gear is Battletech's Canadian cousin okay?)

We love these things because mechs have bigger things to worry about than a miserable aerotech fighter.

So basically a Flakpanzer Gepard on steroids. It's always fun to see weapon systems in fiction that are more than just a facsimile of a contemporary equivalent and represent the logical extreme of sound ideas put into practice.

Back when flak did half damage to ground targets AC-5s were pretty good AA guns. Years ago they changed to rolling on the cluster table, though, so they don't threshold well. And if you're not thresholding you're just fishing for lawndart check failures. May as well use AC-2s. There are diminishing returns so I'd prefer two AC-2s and an AC-10 so the AC-10 can threshold 50 armor on an average roll with flak. That's 24 tons of gun down from 32 so it can fit more armor and enough ammo to let the big autocannon carry both flak and standard.

Back under the first edition TW flak rules I'd take two AC-5s and two AC-2s.

I don't rate the Partisan except as an AA platform. If you aren't stacking flak ammo on top of the AA radar for a net -4 against aircraft Kallon will void your warranty.

Partisan with 8 light ppcs.
AMS
240 light fusion
FCS augmented with TC and energy and heat BC plus ECM
C3 slave

Mgx2 n half ton ammo replaced with Dazzler Flare AMS
And IR smoke projector.

It can fire all 8 LPPCs at once, but usually fires pairs sequentially.

Imagine the sky lighting up with ball lightning all around you as you make a pass.

Cost 4.35 M though...

“If it flies, it dies.” Unofficial Kallon Industries motto. This company has a seething hatred of anything that flies and this is further proof of that dedication towards non-flight.

Classic Air Defense. Mechs are awesome, but this bugger can still rip up enemy planes like a cheese grater. Here's to the Partisan Crews!

Uncle paulie is big fan of sun ta zooo

A lot of the wackier refits would likely be becuase they did not have the right weapons systems to replace damaged units with. So you get LRM variants. Maybe the AC2 version exists cause the places that had them only had AC2s so refit them to it.

In HBS Battletech game, I have an Annihilator with 4 AC5+++ and an ER large laser. When I target the CT, I can take out most lights mediums and some heavies. I love it. Reminds me of this tank.

To be honest I am not a fan of the original partisan, for 80 tons I really thought you could get some better firepower for your tonnage than 4 AC5. The LRM variant, just feels better with that classic SAM battery to make that ASF pilot's ears bleed. later in the timeline we get LBX, because filling the general area with buckshot is an acceptable replacement for accuracy.

For the MF, seeing the Gauss, made me consider the idea of Silver bullet to be more in line with the frequent appearance of lbx10, but with gauss styling. That and the things it does to infantry.

Glad to see another vehicle video, all too often they're overlooked in favor of flashier units

"we're not gonna hit every one of them for this video"

well you would, if you had a Kallon-produced targeting computer!

thanks for the video, MechFrog!

Kind of surprised for the MF version you didn't go with the C3 Slave to let it tie into the rest of a partisan platoon/company and serve as a body guard, especially because the extra half ton would have left room for the ever important emotional support small laser.

Fancy for military hardware is synonymus to expensive and hard to maintain. Simple works. Honestly it is a machine with an important role on the battlefield, and if it changes from that role, it means shit has hit the fan.