Can an external PCI-Express to PCI adapter work? Sort of...

dont think he really did well with troubleshooting this... kind of negates the entire purpose of the video.. or at least its usefullness

Anyone ever tested these with PCI Soundcards on Windows 10/11? Like the X-Fi Xtreme Music?

I have a PC with a Voodoo 2 Sli on such an adapter. If you don't plug in the SATA power connector, it won't work. What I don't like about this adapter is the arrangement of the SATA connector. If you use a long card, the cables get in the way. With mine, the connection runs below the slot in their direction, next to the cards. So there are no cables in the way.

I've been thinking about getting this. Mostly, I want to add USB 3.0 to my Dell Optiplex 3010 SFF, and the GT 710 card I'm using blocks the PCI-1X slot. From what I gather else where, this expansion slot accessory won't run advanced GPUs.
Also, I'm looking for a external case for this.

I was thinking about buying same adapter for the very same reason (I needed SCSI interface on my home server to access the tape library). Ended up with LSI PCI-E SCSI card however, cause I didn't have any SCSI adapter at hand that time around, but for those who have conventional PCI cards these adapters seem like quite an option

I bought one for my E-MU 1616M to plug into my 13900k z790 Hero. I can't part with this sound card, it's PERFECTION for a sound designer. But it's not showing up in DM, and so I am wondering if I need to plug power into this external adapter to get it to work, but I'm afraid in case I burn something out. Apparently, you can still get it to work... if you can get it to show up in DM. There are also 5v/3.3v jumpers on mine for each slot.

Try legacy driver

Adrian, you are aware that there is an actual pcix to pci standoff board, without all the usb interfacing, just plug and play onto pci card then into pcix slot, using server type glue logic on board, making any pci card able to use bone stock windows standard driver models... Ie. A pci video card that might be a Voodoo 3 or #9, that will now be recognized as "Standard VGA Interface" with all of the supported color and resolution spec. of the hardware. All the internal logic needed is on-card so your newest modern pc doesn't need to support it, it just needs to support pcix. This of course means the modern os can utilize it, while gaining the ability to boot a legacy os and use the hardware specific drivers for an older os but through the speed of the pcix bus...meaning you can install a legacy pci sound blaster with dos drivers, then boot dos on a pc built and shipped this morning with full dos platform sound support over pcix, there is even a 90 degree standoff to turn those pci signals into isa, my buddy said the added driver weight is around 6k for this, but it allows you to stack standoffs pcix-pci-isa then load the isa driver through the resident drivers and even control things like latency, bus frequency etc. If you have not seen and have no clue what I am talking about, I will look for the exact hardware names at work. Our adapters were all internal and worked just like plugging a regular card in. My buddy(our tech guy) says it can be found around the 3-4th page of a google search including the keywords "pcix to pci bridge card".

Sorry this is so long, I saw your video and I just got excited because there is literally no pcix boards made that support our lumber saws and they just went through this upgrade at work, we literally have our entire hard drive full of old software that is now bootable and usable through all our old cards, sitting inside ryzen boxes with ddr5, it is awesome, dual boot windows 10 or xp, or drop out from xp to dos on a fat32 drive to play doom in dos with sound at buttery smooth framerates...
(NOT THAT WE TRIED IT ON THE CLOCK MIKE...just at the weekend meeting) ;)

you are aware that there are PCIe SCSI cards right

And the external power supply on the board? Why didnt use?

🤔 Supply Power to the card ... clearly you are not a tech

You need to enable BIOS option roms

i want it the other way around i want to plug pci-e into a pci slot.

isn't that adapter a PCI to pci express X1 ? the title is misleading somehow

no no no no no just connect sata my lord...

u need to conect sata for mb to recognice

Hmm, not sure if I would trust long term use for large cards, due to the power draw without using on onboard power. [ Looking at other modules the same, it seems it want's a SATA power connector]

Don't know specifics, but more than likely there IS some setting on the newer system to allow that to work.

Sideways is the best.

I recently got one of these for my Adaptec 19160 aswell, mine particular adapter board use Asmedia 1083 PCIe-PCI bridge. And it seems to be more compatible with most PCIe slots, regardless if its a CPU direct bus or chipset bus.

Although i personally enable legacy mode in the BIOS, just to ensure better compatibility.

Anyone ever tested these with PCI Soundcards on Windows 10/11? Like the X-Fi Xtreme Music? Does it work (with Daniel_Ks Driver)?

Are pci Express and usb the same port?

Did you try it with the SATA power connector connected to the power supply it may need more power than can be delivered by a PCIe slot on your bench system, that power connector is there for a reason.

Cut the end off off a SATA power splitter or SATA power connector on a PSU and solder the wires to the appropriate pins on the bottom of the PCI board so that the wires and connectors don’t interfere with the SCSI card.

Maybe that thing needed the correct driver for the new PC to see it?

interresting thing for new voodoo record attach add to virtual machine with pci passthrough :-D

the newer pcs may need pci-e set to a lower version in the bios

Tx Adrian, my msi big bang fuzzion just died and so I lost the pci slots for my also adaptec aha2940 scsi2 card connected to my umax astra1200S scanner. So I am going to try this as well. If it works I can put it in a little box, and then I will have an usb3 to scsi2 adapter 😃

As Timmy Joe PC Tech said, (i know its quite an old video) but try if you still have it enabling non-CSM or non-UEFI (legacy) on bios. On my RYZEN machine i have a PCI-ex sata card that has a bios but it never shows up unless legacy mode is enabled

Great job sir

There are no real external PCIe cables, hence a dual USB-A USB3.0 cable is being used.
Have a TB3 to PCIe solution and got a PCIe to PCI board in which my Catweasel can slot. ;-) Based on a ASM1083
Halfway the video, when you show the SCSI card is not detected I suspect this is due to lack of power perhaps... as even my PCIe->PCI card has an external power plug for 12V+5V

hi my brother has a window 10 it will not work with it yes something to do with the older computer and driver's like you said

i would say in my last mail and the card first get drivers to work with card when all work ad the sound card with driver it works ok with M AUDIO step and step at a time
when ad on the unit's check the system that it can see them in the list of things

Hi Adrian, I have a Corsair Carbide 275R, Gigabyte Aorus Elite V2, a GIGABYTE AORUS Nvme Gen4 M.2 500GB PCI-Express 4.0 Interface with Windows 10 Pro X64, a Ryzen 5 3600, and 32 GB of DDR4 2666 memory. The case has two upright expansion slots on the back, and I would like to use my M-Audio 1010 Lite PCI, in my new build. Could you please suggest a good PCIEX to PCI converter to try? I would appreciate it. 😜

Bruh this guy barely even knows how pci is supposed to be configured on a mobo. Plus he doesn't even know the existence of risers with usb. wth???

Maybe are you doing an UEFI boot instead of a BIOS boot? That can be the reason the Option ROM is not loaded, because you need to be running a BIOS for that.

I use one of these to connect my M-audio Delta66 card - it works flawlessly so far, no sata power connected.

Ideally you would have another case sitting next to your PC, those boards are roughly the same thickness as a normal motherboard so imagine an empty case, you could plug that card into one of the external slot openings, have the adapter below it like the motherboard would be and then route the USB cable out of the case and to your main system with the adapter installed.

What I wanna see is the other way around - PCI to PCIe adapter and then trying out some ridiculous combinations like a 3090 on a 486 mobo or something, lol

YOU NEED tO ADD the SATA POWER CONNECTOR (FUN GETTING ONE THAT FITS) OTHERWISE NOT ENOUGH POWER TO PCI BOARDS!

90 degree SATA power plug on to the side board would be needed as the scsi cards has a high "draw" & slow the bus down on the overclocked machine . enable legacy support and add some harddrive delay if it has the option . he already said it had trouble booting sometimes which is prob due to memory or bus timings slightly out . Modern bios would quickly cycle power up & adjust a few times before allowing boot but by that time its already skipped or failed to boot the card . bur sometimes things just don't like each other ... lol

You may need a SATA power cable with a 90° connector at one end to get it to work with the oversize card you're using.

Try to give some mechanical support to scsi card in order to fit straight and stable in the pci slot.

I wish they would make boards with ISA that are not 2000$ and not P4 new , They make them for banks and other areas that still use isa retro hardware. today people want pci isa so there is a market for it, They do make usb to ext dual pci case for laptops but they cost like 100$ us and are rare now from around 2009.

The card you have is PCI X not pci

Find a SATA power cable that is flat, I would not think PSU would come with it angled. If it works on one machine not the other I tend to think power is not enough. SATA power-Molex converters are abound.

I have multiple brands of PCI-E to PCI adapters, I've had success with all of them. I use them to pass PCI devices to WIndows 98 VMs. Works best on Intel procs.

very interesting video!, I actually purchased that same riser pci ex to 2 pci slots, awaiting for the arrival, so watched the video with interest, I am trying to plug my old RME multiface audio interface to newer pc system where there is no pci slots anymore..:(, I hope it will work, as I fo not want to throw out such a nice audio interface as RME, it's still rock solid, drivers, converters, I really like RME< so fingers x'd:), it will work with new pc, and therefore it will be possible to use it in the future with new pc, not oldtimer atx board:). I also didnt mention the fact, I want to build a tiny PC, with just one pci e slot, as small as it could be, easy to transport and not taking too much space on the desk. ATX standard, where PCI slots doent exist anymore...

ummm, 64-bit PCI is really called PCI-X

There is similar thing but with Asmedia bridge IC on Ebay for almost same money. I would rather try that one. I think Asmedia is more supported and used on many mainboards. ITE and Nuvoton ICs are also good and used on mainboards.

we can use gaming graphic card?