Ancient Historian Breaks Down 'Troy' Movie | Deep Dives

More Roel!!

Based on the number of actors I recognize in this movie, it almost feels like "Greek Braveheart"! 😝

What I took away from this movie when I saw it 20 years ago is that the downfall of every great man is always over a woman. Whether it was Paris, Achilles, Menelaus or even Hector, none of them acted with logic. Homer knew this 2500 years ago and it remains true in human nature today.

Great review from a historical perspective.

Just found the channel! Loved this breakdown

Great overview, I read Homer's works many decades before the film, so recognised the 'hollywooding' of a great story - Yanks do this with a lot of true stories to - just look at U-571 and how they try to take credit for Enigma.

I just thought this movie was boring and safe, honestly. I wanted so much more and they removed so many little details that would have made the conflict more meaningful.

Better version is the Troy series by David Gemmell.

? You said Hector was being "very un-greek" by being contrary to the omens or whatever, but he WASN'T Greek, he was with Troy. Wtf?

Brad pitt is a mediocre actor and the tough guy acting is horrible

whining about "conservative viewers" and mentioning a hypothetical homoerotic relationship between Achilles and Patroclus (its long been debunked), definetly no bias here at all...

The orginal sounds better

So paris was the first simp

I would of had the archers shoot Achilles down from the walls.

I love this guy bring him back for more Bronze Age stuff I absolutely eat it up

You missed a death scene head comes off gruesome

There is so much I love about this movie and so much I detest. As a baby classicist in the cinema in 2004, there was a bunch of great stuff. But the gods' absence—and characters' outright contempt for them—completely sinks it as an adaptation of Homer.

The Story is an adaptation of Döner vs Gyros

I truly enjoyed this video. But if I may play the director's advocate, I guess it is difficult to merge all the plots and subplots into a 3 hour movie. However there is a British show on Netflix- 'Troy- fall of a city' which is s a more faithful and detailed adaptation of the Homeric Illiad. The big criticism I may have for this film is completely ignoring the Gods- the Gods played a pivotal role in the cause and result of the war. The seeds of the Trojan battle were sown in the marriage between Peleus and Thetis (Achilles' parents) where the apple of discord was gifted by the God of Dissent Eris and over which apple later , the three Goddess- Hera, Athena and Aphrodite fought and Paris was made to judge.

It is well known that the Atlanteans used ancient alien technology to bring llamas and alpacas to the Mediterranean, along with corn, tobacco and Brad Pitt.

Bummer he didn't cover the little nod to the Eneid

I'd love to have seen a version where Brad Pitt hides as a womam to escape the war. 😂

The 1977 movie Iphigenia is easily the best I've seen about this story.

I see ditch man, I watch

The highlight of this movie is the llamas and the dog

quite awesomely detailed and educational... very HOMERIC

Timeo danaos et dona ferentes

Maybe they didn't want to do the golden apple subplot...
There's a serious lack of gods in the film, too bad

funniest thing to me about the famous trojan horse is that did none of these absolute idiots even think of examining the thing before deciding what to do with it..... also as an infiltration plan this is goddam stupid coz it would never work in real life coz no1 hopefully is that retarted

Wasn't hard to google Boibe.

It's funny somehow, I remember when Troy came out and people were mocking most of it, not the acting but pretty much everything else, yet this is the least criticised movie - reacted to by a historian - that I've ever seen.
I've seen historians pick apart 300 and Gladiator to name but a few.

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In The Iliad, Menelaus is a very complex character. He is far from an abusive husband and Helen even asks herself "Why did I leave him for Paris"?

I thought you're robert pattinson in the thumbnail 😅 had to double look 😁

The idea there was no materialist motives in the war at all seems incredibly naive. Maybe it wasn't main thing but you can't say people don't enter armed conflict if there isn't some advantage, even in a time of utterly different social values.

I would like to see 3 part movie of Odyssey coming home!

Maybe Lü Bu was Achilles reborn. Same skill, same arrogance.

Bill Moseley talks about Ancient History!

"Ancient Historian Breaks Down ... ", this historian does not look so ancient to me.

The most infuriating thing is that Paris was the one who killed Achilles. He started all this unnecessary shit and he managed to get away with it

As much as I enjoy some of the extra scenes, the music/soundtrack of the extended edition is so poor compared to the official film. Everything seems so off.

Nannie Glens

Achilles was a homo?😮😮😮

This guy is too good

Boibe is another name for Thessaly, according to wiki...is that accurate??

An hour long... Excuse you!!!

There was never a war between Greeks and Trojans. A war broke out between the Achaean alliance and the Trojan alliance, which according to Homer was a Greek civil war. The Achaeans and the Trojans had kinship, common gods and customs, and the same language.
The Iliad is written and no one can change a single letter.