Everyone misses this problem solving step

Everyone misses this problem solving step

Benjamin Keep, PhD, JD

2 недели назад

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There's lots of good advice on problem solving. But the details matter.

00:00 Introduction
1:08 The problem solving process
1:54 The important sentence
3:02 Skipping the step vs doing the thing

BTW, if you're learning physics on your own, I think Susan Rigetti's recommendations are indispensable. https://www.susanrigetti.com/physics

The "2000" problems video I reference is here: https://youtu.be/_5MQUMtRPmM

References:

The physics book in question is: Young, H. D., Freedman, R. A., & Ford, A. L. (20). Sears and Zemansky's University Physics with Modern Physics. 15th Edition. Pearson education. Although I think any of the earlier editions (14th, 13th, international, etc.) are good. Again, credit to Susan Rigetti for this recommendation.

The papers I referenced on conceptual knowledge and procedural skill:

Kim, E., & Pak, S. J. (2002). Students do not overcome conceptual difficulties after solving 1000 traditional problems. American Journal of Physics, 70(7), 759-765. (available at http://sdsu-physics.org/sdsu_per/articles/ProblemS_ConUnderst.pdf)

Byun, T., & Lee, G. (2014). Why students still can't solve physics problems after solving over 2000 problems. American Journal of Physics, 82(9), 906-913. (available at https://aapt.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1119/1.4881606)

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@mostdefinitelynotaguineapi7566
@mostdefinitelynotaguineapi7566 - 06.07.2024 04:37

This is applicable to learning creative writing.

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@jawadoumar
@jawadoumar - 05.07.2024 07:56

I don't wanna learn during an exam 💀

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@rafaelwendel1400
@rafaelwendel1400 - 05.07.2024 06:37

I remember a similar diagram from my Chemical Principles book, from Atkins and Jones. Changes my thought process forever.

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@choppy636
@choppy636 - 04.07.2024 12:20

Your videos are absolutely awesome! Have you heard much about the "ecological approach" to coaching/teaching/learning? As opposed to teacher-directed learning? Seems to contain some very interesting ideas, would love it if you made a video exploring the ideas!
(An Ecological Approach to Empower the Learner, Martha W. Bristor and Dorothy L. West)

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@AATutorsYT
@AATutorsYT - 03.07.2024 19:31

Even as a student in ICS (justin's program, I recommend you check it out, his practical implementations are something I'd love for you to critique) I find incredible the work you're putting in here. I can help the students I tutor way more because of you, so for that I thank you.

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@AyaanshSolanki
@AyaanshSolanki - 02.07.2024 20:56

I think you'd really enjoy How to Solve it By G.Polya he covers some really basic but useful problem solving techniques. The whole asking yourself questions about what you are trying to find has really helped me out.

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@jz5005
@jz5005 - 02.07.2024 20:05

Are you deliberately slowing down the last two words of many sentences so you can sound….
like….
Obama… ?

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@neerajkrishna1983
@neerajkrishna1983 - 02.07.2024 15:57

This is a very important video

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@sikeimmike
@sikeimmike - 01.07.2024 07:56

GUESS: Givens, Unknowns, Equations, Substitute, Solve ❌
GUESGS: Givens, Unknowns, Equations, Substitute, Guess, Solve ✅
Guess Inception

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@Flourish38
@Flourish38 - 30.06.2024 11:44

Oh, hey, I do this! This is a generally applicable approach to building intuition/understanding. All you have to do is always make a prediction before you gather concrete information. For a simple example from my life, I always guess what time it is before I look at a clock, and because of that my internal clock is pretty damn sharp.

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@user-vq3cs9hg3l
@user-vq3cs9hg3l - 29.06.2024 05:45

What are the traits of highly intelligent people? Can we train ourselves to be one of them?

It would be so interesting if you take these questions as an idea for next video!!!

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@mijaelmarcelovillarroelchu6513
@mijaelmarcelovillarroelchu6513 - 28.06.2024 16:33

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@boomi3
@boomi3 - 28.06.2024 15:51

this may sound unrelated but can you please make a video about what reading books actually does to brain that makes reading so important. I also wonder how reading improves problem solving skills, critical thinking etc.

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@gregorydriscoll8806
@gregorydriscoll8806 - 28.06.2024 15:38

This is so important

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@bus30056
@bus30056 - 28.06.2024 14:40

Is this only applicable to learning physics
or also applicable to subjects like law?

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@lospolloshermanos1958
@lospolloshermanos1958 - 28.06.2024 06:53

Wow. Solving thousands of problems in physics without learning physics sounds a lot like the real life analog to overfitting, a concept in machine learning.
In machine learning it is common practice to separate the data out into multiple sets. A training, validation and test set. They're trained with the training set, of course, and during that time, their progress is assessed with the validation set. What this does is it prevents the model from essentially memorising the data points which wouldn't be really useful in the real world.

But the validation set also isn't perfect because it is used to inform the ML practitioner's decisions on how to train things, and eventually they might accidentally land on a model that miraculously understands the underlying pattern... but only for the training and validation sets. So you have to test that as well. Chances are because of the numerous iterations and tweaks from the practitioner, the models that seem the best are likely to have a positive bonus purely from chance.

They go through that much for an extra few percentages of accuracy.

Compare this to the education system which holds practice tests as bibles. "Guy's it's simple, when we give them practice tests, they do better!" There were literal companies coming in to give a basic talks on ways to increase your grades at my school. And it boiled down to taking practice tests. That was it...

Teaching to the test. Perhaps that's why the education system is so wanting - because they inform themselves based on the tests and only the tests. No question of true performance or understanding. This doesn't seem changeable because on which metrics do we evaluate a better education? It's like a misaligned AGI, the government. Can't tell it nothing except what will get it closer to it's predefined immutable goal.

I know it may be somewhat a stretch to say that they're teaching to the test, since the practice tests are actually different data-points, so to speak, to the real tests - but call them training papers and it's the same thing. The environment is the same, so you're not testing conceptual understanding necessarily, so much so as you are testing paper doing. And certainly papers have their patterns.

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@iainmackenzieUK
@iainmackenzieUK - 28.06.2024 02:46

I will be sharing this with my A-level Physics students (In China) next semester
Many thanks!

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@whalingwithishmael7751
@whalingwithishmael7751 - 28.06.2024 02:23

Great video! Appreciate your work 🙌🏼

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@kaya-sem
@kaya-sem - 27.06.2024 23:08

Can an example be given? Like for something like linear algebra, or programming/algorithms? I am not sure how to apply that step..

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@abandonment
@abandonment - 27.06.2024 20:51

I wonder if he likes Go...

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@errolv
@errolv - 27.06.2024 14:15

This is a great use of logic for problem solving. But this does not limit using this concept to hard science. I teach people how to drive a truck, to get a Commercial Driver License. The toughest thing to learn is how to back a semi-truck properly. I tell my students the first thing to do is to imagine where the back wheels will be when they are done making an adjustment in their backing problem. Then how to get them there. For me, that is the point of Dr Keep's video - imagine the solution before solving the problem.

(I was completely distracted by the Go (wei-chi) board on the stand!)

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@lospolloshermanos1958
@lospolloshermanos1958 - 27.06.2024 13:34

It sounds like this procedure is widely applicable even to abstract problems such as marketing or art. Trying to predict before executing, e.g. running an A/B test for marketing or painting for art. It sounds like you'd be creating a habit of gauging first whether something is good abstractly - using those abstract ideas to guide your decision making throughout execution phase.

I suppose for marketing you'd focus on ideas like
"how much of and which of these demographics are affected and how so?",
"what might this person say about this brand for this particular webpage?", or
"would this audience stay longer or shorter on the site when they first see this?"

and art would be about visualising it, asking questions about different parts like
"would this make the face look happier?",
"would this make the painting more vibrant?", or
"would this contrast poorly with that?"

I wouldn't know much about some kind of "learning loop" you'd employ. Mr. Keep, I wonder about your thoughts on working through abstract problems that don't have concrete answers as do the perfect worlds of maths and physics. What do you think about the application of mental models in step 2.5 of prediction? Things like inversion?
"What could I do to make the potential customer not want to buy at all?"
"What simple small thing could I do to ruin this painting?"

Or consideration of the extremes?
"If X goes to say a billion what does this look like?"

And so on...?

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@Epic-so3ek
@Epic-so3ek - 27.06.2024 05:13

You are like the absolute gold standard channel on learning and its sad you're criminally underated!! Keep making these pls!!! (Anyone reading like the video)

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@theorinaldi4148
@theorinaldi4148 - 27.06.2024 03:32

Very rare quality content video

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@SamProductivity
@SamProductivity - 27.06.2024 03:09

This is the genuinely most fascinating channel I have ever come across! Thank you for sharing your gift.

If anybody hasn't signed up for the newsletter, it is similarly a goldmine!

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@shicocc
@shicocc - 27.06.2024 03:05

Thanks for the video, really helpful stuff, I hope I'll remember to come back to this when the semester starts haha. 

On a side note, I wanted to ask your perspective on 2 questions about practical implementation of learning science into real life.

I'm sure you're busy, so you can answer with as little or as much detail as you like (or maybe make a video if that seems like a good idea!).


1) Do you have a structure or recommendation for going about implementing all the ideas and advice in your videos into our personal, real life pursuits? Some sort of way to identify and adapt relevant theory to whatever thing we want to learn, whether it's physics, social skills, starcraft, stress management, or even something as simple as building an exercise habit? I guess you could call it meta-meta-learning haha. 

Context: I find myself watching a lot of your videos and feeling very enlightened and captivated, but looking back I haven't actually put as much of it into practice as I'd like. I think it's because it can be difficult to know where to start, which concepts to apply where, and things like this.


2) What's your opinion on how emotional intelligence plays into learning, and how can you practically improve it to make the actual (and hopefully more effective) practice you end up doing in real life adaptable enough to your preferences and the follies of everyday life to be enjoyable and somewhat sustainable?

Context: 
There's a lot of emotional traps that you can fall into while learning that can make it difficult to actually do practice that's more effective. Making practice plans but then procrastinating them or ending up "practicing" in more unhelpful ways because they're easier; feeling demotivated by failure or overwhelm about not knowing what's going wrong or what to do.
Things like these have been the other biggest obstacle in translating intriguing and motivating learning theory into actual improvement in my real life. As I've gotten better with EQ skills in other parts of my life, I've found myself (building practice plans that increase my chances of) following through more, but part of me again wishes I had a more structured way of improving on this, especially with respect to learning specifically.


Again, thanks for your videos, the things that I actually have implemented like free recall have been really helpful not just in my own studies, but also in tutoring friends and peers. I'm excited to see the videos coming next, and also your course!

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@demonfighter6
@demonfighter6 - 27.06.2024 02:45

In the three-step process, step 3 is Profit! I learned that from South Park.

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@mariuszludwinski4511
@mariuszludwinski4511 - 27.06.2024 01:20

I see a danger there. Making a prediction may influence equations to solve the execution -- in a bad way.

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@db2360
@db2360 - 27.06.2024 01:08

🎉😊

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@juanpabloarroyo2313
@juanpabloarroyo2313 - 27.06.2024 01:02

nice video, i would like to know your opinion abouth the ultralearning book

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@juanpabloarroyo2313
@juanpabloarroyo2313 - 27.06.2024 01:02

nice video, i would like to know your opinion abouth the ultralearning book

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@TheIllerX
@TheIllerX - 26.06.2024 23:58

I might be a bit slow here, but I don't get your point at all.
More precisely, what is "conceptual prediction"?
What am I predicting? In what way? What is an example of a prediction?
Some kind of guess what the result will be? How would that help in any way?
Or does this specifically only have to do with some intuitive understanding of physical systems in physics?

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@williamlevii
@williamlevii - 26.06.2024 23:01

Info of the particular physic book?

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@ilikegeorgiabutiveonlybeen6705
@ilikegeorgiabutiveonlybeen6705 - 26.06.2024 21:54

that works btw. i used that approach to learn physics for my exam knowing nothing about physics. its like formal logic actually in a sense that you get factually correct statements and arrange them so that output of the whole thing makes sense

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@SumitRana-life314
@SumitRana-life314 - 26.06.2024 20:58

I lole how the painting behind is posing like "Oh. Damn! He is making a lot of sense"

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@Bilal-ys6df
@Bilal-ys6df - 26.06.2024 20:21

This is awesome. Very applicable also for coding.
In code reviews in my school I involuntary throw out ideas of what code does, when I read it and it sometimes annoys the evaluated, because they want to explain their code.
I always ask them, to give me some time to engage with their code, before they explain it.

And I make rather good progress.

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@solivagant1170
@solivagant1170 - 26.06.2024 19:42

Commenting for the algorithm, keep up the good work!

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@TavishHill
@TavishHill - 26.06.2024 19:41

I always ask my physics students to imagine the scenario they are working on playing out in their mind's eye as the first step. And to imagine the various parameters have sliders attached to them that one can adjust to get varying results. Really just to get them thinking about causal relationships and the parameter space in some way first, since that is what they are gonna be exploring as they solve the problem anyhow.

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@gustavnilsson6597
@gustavnilsson6597 - 26.06.2024 19:18

This is gold!
Thank you!

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@mrvietchopsticks9592
@mrvietchopsticks9592 - 26.06.2024 18:59

You are a real saviour, could you make a video dicussing how "geniuses" become genus"

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@maloukemallouke9735
@maloukemallouke9735 - 26.06.2024 18:09

thank you so much,
the hard solving problem where the prediction depending on time it's really hard to find which steps should to combine to get solution

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@frakean9174
@frakean9174 - 26.06.2024 18:06

Damnnn i loooooove ya video

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@leoBrofoski23
@leoBrofoski23 - 26.06.2024 17:57

Thank you sir, your videos are definitely helpful.

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@wilaustu
@wilaustu - 26.06.2024 17:56

This video feels like it's so important

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@tisaname8490
@tisaname8490 - 26.06.2024 17:48

I think this also ties in with another video of yours about routine expertise and adaptive expertise,
I would assume this is probably one of the key steps in achieving adaptive expertise?
I have a question though if I learnt some theory (f.e. a mathematical concept & formula), exactly how many problems am I meant to solve,
or if posed in other words, how do I know if I solved enough problems? Because when I search online about adaptive expertise, I think I found some information about routine expertise being a building block of adaptive expertise, but do I need to be able to use techniques off the top of my head to achieve adaptive expertise?

My perspective has been: "understand the technique, and if you come across a problem that ends up needing the technique, figure out the steps manually (because I understood the why behind the steps) or just look it up". I only solve one problem or so to practice, but I am no longer sure if this perspective is enough to achieve adaptive expertise.

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@duyanhtran4723
@duyanhtran4723 - 26.06.2024 17:40

So accrute, thank you

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@DevilJohn-ug1fp
@DevilJohn-ug1fp - 26.06.2024 16:32

Description is very good

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@subashm7315
@subashm7315 - 26.06.2024 16:17

Sir kindly upload learning techniques for medical students pls

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