All Changeling Contradictions in Star Trek Picard vs Deep Space 9

These aren't all contradictions. You're assuming nothing has changed in the 25 years since DS9, and a lot of this is explained in Picard (the apparent differences between regular changelings and these fleshier versions, for example).

And the ones in these videos technically did revert to a liquid state. They just went to dust afterwards! I know that one's stretching it, though. =)

By this time it's parody. The writers from Nu Trek aren't even bothering to remember the canon established lore from Legacy Trek! I've never wanted to see a boom head shot more than that changeling broad in Picard.

I'm glad that the newer series keep up the tradition of contradicting previously established lore like TOS and the Berman-era series did. :D

It almost like these super changelings aren't really that powerful it almost like they forgot how powerful they were.😊

Supposedly the changelings in Picard were different than natural changelings because they had been experimented on and modified in starfleet labs to try and weaponize them . That’s why they looked so “meaty” apparently.

Picard season 3 was good

I prefer to think of each Trek series taking place in its own universe within a multiverse. I even consider the TNG movies exist in an alternate universe to the tv series. This is why the pink Klingon blood is red in DS9, why the alpha quadrant holds all ciswormhole powers when other series established the federation being in the Alpha and Beta quadrants. There are several other examples to give.

What really matters is if the series in question does not contradict itself.

You're wrong in everything but whatever.

Picard's changeling look like different species

I have an idea for a video for you major grin. The ai formations the starfleet ships do to work in a cordinated manner, its like when hermes burecratic head takes over the ships to fight the gold death stars in futurama

Unrelated to the clip, but it just occurred to me the whole pulling Enterprise-D out of museum is pretty much the same as pulling the Missouri into action again in movie Battleship.

Add one more non-trek movie to the list of what STP writers were lifting idea from.

Thank you. Picard S3 is a polished turd, but still a turd. Especially when you watch Best of Both worlds part 2 and Beverly says "even his DNA is reverting...so how did they use it."

Tbh I’m not sure that the guys directly under vas are Changelings tho we know some crew and people were but didn’t really learn much about them

Including the changlings was really the biggest problem with this season.

Its preferable for me to think of Vadic as her crew as an imperfect attempt by Starfleet to create new Changelings, hence why they are so blatantly inferior to real ones. That at least is the best lore explanation, the more obvious one being that the writers never watched DS9

god so many errors.... so many mistakes.... I feel so frustrated .... .... is this how teachers feel when they review students' exams?

Well judging from Laas, looks like all Vadic has to do is pull herself together.

A lot of this doesn't account for the ST:P changelings being 'modified'.

Ensign Redshirt: "Sir, I need a sample of yo--"
Vadic: "it's MA'AM"
Redshirt: "Excuse me, I need a sample of your blood."
Vadic: grabs dagger "You want blood? Here, you can have my WHOLE HAND FOR ALL I CARE!"

This is why Puke-Hard Season 3 is the worst!

Exactly what I was thinking the whole time watching PIcard

This show is total shit. Terry is not the saviour of Star Trek he just made Nu Trek less offensive.

People who say season 3 is what we wanted are mistaken

Also vadic talks like a comical humanoid maniac. Real changelings are calm, passive agressive, calculating, and have a biological preference for order and serenity. Especially these conservative changelings, who would double down on the avoidance of humanoid behaviors, emotions, and desires. The only changeling we’ve seen act anywhere close to this was the female changeling when both she and her entire species were dying a horrible death and when the cardassians revolted.

To be fair, the first time we saw a changeling killed, it was mirror Odo and it only took one phaser blast.

To be fair, the changelings in Picard Season 3 were a radical rogue group that broke off from the Great Link.

What's with the fucking cigarettes? It's depressing.

'So what your saying is, any one of us could be a cylon?'

The only possible excuse I could give them is that these aren't classic dominion changelings, they're section 31 bio-weapon changelings which could have entirely different properties.

nit-picket

Watching these DS9 clips makes me want to re-watch it.

It’s too early to tell yet how the Changelings came to be after DS9. One is seeing in “Discovery”, so their still around even in the 31st Century.

You know to be fair, the Lars episode was kind of insane how crazy OP he is as a Changeling, to the point that I think he's the strongest changeling ever shown on screen. I mean turning into fog? Warp capable space travel? The other founders could do some crazy stuff, but mostly just opted for tentacles or occasionally doing something like steel arms, but that episode made them god tier.

Okay, so here's my read on it and I don't see this in many videos: They got the Changelings "enhanced abilities" entirely wrong, as they were things they could always do. But the thing they could do that the old ones couldn't is turn a solid into a shapeshifter. That was the nature of the experimentation. I think this for two major lines; "How much of that goo sh*t did they pump into you?" and "We can share this gift with anyone." Meaning I think that most of Vedick's crew were like, half-changeling and not really full great link changeling. But yeah, it drove me nuts every single time they used scanners to find them or acted like their old abilities were somehow new. My one issue with that season.

Glad you made this one. I'm cool with the cigarette change, since that'd be a really kind of cool quirk for the genetic experimentation to have effected.

I miss odo

Honestly, that hand-communication thing never made the slightest bit of sense to me.

I always loved that Sisko's dad is the one to figure out that blood screenings are bs.

all this made me do was go back and watch DS9 again.

That's what made the Changeling's/Founders scary is they could be any one and they did not need a bucket. They could use parts of their body as a spear/tendril/weapon. They can live in a vacuum as they dont have lungs/organs. With Martok we found out they passed blood screening. You could not kill them with knives and Starfleet needed phaser sweeps to find them.

I knew Pickar was a terrible show before, and I know Pickar is a terrible show now. No amount of MemberBerries will convince me otherwise.

To be fair, the lackeys on STP that were Vadic's henchmen in black with all the monster sounds were never truly identified as changelings themselves. But this still doesn't explain how Jack could easily kill the 4 staff impersonators in the corridor. Those were changelings.

I'd buy that they developed scanners that could scan for Changelings in the decades since DS9

Every series violates previous canon in some way. But they only did it when a great story required it. Now they just ignore canon to make worse stories. The worst of both worlds.

Normally I would agree with Major Grin's videos about bs in the recent Star Trek shows however this one is not one of them. Since Picard season 3 explained why these Changeling are different. Section 31 tortured and experimented on them which explains why these Changeling are different. They are better at infiltration but the trade off is that they are not as durable or resistant to damage like the other Changelings which explains why they can be killed easily. They probably don't live as long as them too.