How Accepting Are Most Men & Women To Non-Monogamy?

Infidelity is all about human biology men and women secretively desire to act on their feelings be it sexual or emotional or both for someone else. The monogamy relationship style just pushes it underground so it happens anyway like it does within an open relationship but instead of being open and honest about it things happen in secret and people are not open or honest about it.

people they just don't want to hear it they live in this one man one woman just you and me faithful to the end fantasy world
truth : you can be unfaithful to the one you love and it does not mean that you don't love your special person when you are unfaithful or better said not sexually exclusive
but people just don't want to hear it

people are just biased against polyamory , but monogamy is ok with so much infidelity, divorce rates, secrets, lies , quarrels because they treat their partner as a possession and when they find out that their partner at any time does not need their permission or approval to sleep with another because monogamy long term is rare they are full of judgement and verbal abuse and will probably end the relationship and yet complain about a lack of honesty with an infidelity is a dealbreaker for me attitude and yet oddly enough expect honesty but for the image of the outside world they are in monogamous relationship (hypocrisy) and even when without their husband's knowledge the woman has slept with a good friend, a colleague and a mutual best friend or a neighbour during their 8 year marriage but that's ok because their relationship is monogamous

even though there is a lot infidelity about people still prefer monogamy above polyamory , you may believe that hypothetically it is possible to love more than one person , especially those with an ex boyfriend or ex husband an da new husband yes, but to live with many and have a relationship with all of them simultaneously I think many will think to themselves that they are not up for that , an occasional fling with another that you feel attracted to yes , that seems to happen a lot , but commitment and sexual exclusivity seems to mean two different things to people committed to stay with the husband they love yes and to have their moment with their gorgeous other man as well seems the sentiment

Wow, the amount of undifferentiated comments shows that we have a long way to go. Why can't people at least try to open up to a less judgy view? It is a fact, that there is cheating in most monogamous relationships. Biologywise we are not a pure tournament species (like baboons for example) but also not a pure pair bonding species (like penguins). Reed or watch Robert Sapolsky for more info on this, it's fascinating. So we have both tendencies, towards polygamy and monogamy. The important thing is to find out what you want, communicate it openly and find a fitting partner. If children are involved, it gets much more complicated of course and you have to make sure, to provide a stable family for them (I don't think that many humans would be able to do that in a polygamy-setting). But the biggest problem I observed in any kind of relationship (my own or of family/friends) is that most people don't know their own needs, wants and psychological problems and then project so much of it onto their partner(s). We have wild expectations or don't even know our expectations and even if we do, we can't communicate effectively. So until we all evolve into better humans through self reflection and better communication skills, we will keep on hurting ourselves and others in our relationships, no matter how we design them. But I see no reason to not try polygamy, if you think it might be right. People should be aware though that it needs very open and skillful communication. What I do find hilarious is the guys, who want two women, going "oh but you can only fuck me" 😂 That shows the emotional development of a toddler (everything has to serve my needs, yours don't matter).

If you can't stay loyal to one person, you can't do that for several. Why bother?

Love doesn’t exist

Stated versus Actual Preferences
Guys desiring multiple women in LTRs. ....yet just imagine the female drama that would ensue.
I'm thinking the actual preference dynamic would be the man saying no.

My parents were in an open marriage and trust me, it’s a definition of a mess. It takes a narcissist and a victim to make it stick. You need to gaslight your partner into thinking they should keep investing in you both emotionally and financially whilst they are giving all the love and attention to other people. Someone gets hurt and children grow up in a toxic unstable environment. Just don’t

I saw a dating profile where a woman wanted a "primary" partner in a "LTR" while she remains non monogamous. 😂

What guy with any self-respect would sign up to provide boyfriend security while allowing his GF to hook up with other guys getting sex for free?

I imagine it's great in theory, but i know if me and my partner were to practise it, i'd always feel jealous and a bit betrayed whenever she went with someome else, even if we'd agreed to an open relationship.

the host explains it better than the dude that conducted the study ... dude c'mon ...

is he playing with that grip strength thing to hide some stress or is it just an impression?

We'll take ENM over monogamy anyday of the week. The people are by far better people, the vacations are by far better, and the marriages are far stronger and by far longer lasting than monogamous relationships.

We'd better not be accepting of any of this. These people like to play the victim and claim they only want acceptance, but they actively attack monogamy at any opportunity. If they had their way, they would abolish monogamy and marriage from society, and they should not be given a platform so that young naive and impressionable can be convinced. We should platform who speak in favor of monogamy instead, and warn us against these ideologies. And before you think I sound like a conspiracy theorist, I made a series of mistakes when I was young and was in the poly community for a few years. I know how they think and what strategies they use to actively convert others. That was the most painful period of my life, thankfully I realized my mistakes before it was too late.

The polyamorous men want the women to only have sex with him. ??? Lol!
Hey- What about one women - two (straight lol!) men??? How prevalent is this setup?

This is not a Hunter Gatherer Society…..not needed. Evolution. People can hardly afford one wife-and say, two children. Come on.
. ** 80 per Cent women - say NO. Lol!!
* Porn addiction has really messed men up!! Wow. No wonder so many are single and having the least amount of sex ever.
Stay single.

Look at Destiny who is a very intelligent person but my god the chaos of going through a poly relationship , even if you can handle it, doesn’t sound that enticing.

Ethical non monagamy is better then.broken promises

Destiny 😂😂😂

Monogamy advocates. Poly is insane. Monogamy stats - Infidelity all the time 😂. Over 11% of men raising kids that aren't theirs. Yea Monogamy is working well

I think we should seek this answer by going back to the history.

ChatGPT Says:

Sumerians
Ancient Egyptians
Indus Valley Civilization
Ancient Greeks
Roman Empire
Chinese Civilization
Islamic Caliphates
Maya Civilization
Inca Empire
Mongol Empire

all of these most known human civilisations, monogamy was the predominant. So I think there is nothing wrong with me for believing in it.
polygamous relationships existed only in ruler and wealthy class and it's modern bullshit. Thank god I always suspected this and felt this was the right way, the biology in me always knew it was wrong if my girl let's say wanted to have more men. (didn't happen)

Concent is not betrayal and loving somebody should be about wanting them to hhave everything, not putting them in cage. But what most here are missing is the simple fact that sex, love and marriage are all three different things.

"All things permissable in the marriage bed"

The one-penis policy reeks of insecurity.

Poligamy and monogamy are both equally valid
Pretending you ate monogamous to trap someone in a marriage with children only to pull the "we are poligamous by nature" is just evil and unforgivable
Find someone that agrees with you from the start

Straight people are so boring. Straight men, especially

In 30 years of dating I can honestly say I have never met a healthy polyamorous person or polyamorous couple. God, I remember around 5-6 years ago this married poly dudes "boyfriend" (trans guy) accused him of sexual abuse and they literally held a public online council to "hold him accountable". I tried dating a poly person only to realise they are just too selfish and self-absorbed to be a good sex partner let alone any type of partner worth of note. Dating apps are chock full of them now. It is awful.

I've been meeting up recently with a woman who's into non-monogamy. She's in her late 40's, has a grown son, and is just looking to have some good sexual adventures. I'm totally cool with that. Hanging out with her has been fun and may lead to some even wilder experiences. It all comes down to what you're looking for and how you approach life.

I met a girl at my gym recently, took her on a few dates and we both agreed we didn’t want anything serious at the moment, but also established that we were interested in each other and wanted to see where it went.

She’s a feminist, so I got to a point where I knew something was off and had to pull some more info out of her. I was ok with closing myself off to other options while getting to know her, but I discovered that she wanted to keep herself available. Her reason? “I’m not seeing anyone else, and the likelihood of that happening is low anyways, but I don’t want someone being able to tell me what I can or can’t do, or having any say in my life right now.”

My reasonable request of wanting to date exclusively was interpreted by her as me having an internalized ownership complex and wanting to control her life. I told her I appreciated her honesty but that I would not continue to date her. I explained that her modern dating ethic is disrespectful, while she insisted that I re-think my perspective that this is disrespectful.

I will not be respectfully disrespected by these chicks- and neither will you! Guys, stop dating these girls. And make sure you tell them why this stuff isn’t gonna fly with you, because you’re a good man and you don’t tolerate bullshit. These chicks need to know that they can’t have their cake and eat it too. You’re the prize, gentlemen. You control who gets to have a relationship with you. If she disrespects your request and doesn’t reciprocate your sentiments, you’re wasting time and money on her.

"I know it never works for anyone, but maybe it will work for *us*."

The fact is the most successful society is based in the Judeo-Christian model of monogamy. It works, provides stability and a two parent home. Man provides, woman takes what he proves and makes a home.

For 100 girls there are born 106 boys.

In certain circles on the internet the claim is that "all women will share an Alpha, leaving the Beta with nothing". My guess is that this might be selection bias. Also, women are a lot more sensitive to societal norms than men, so in polygamic societies we'd likely see similar numbers for men but very different numbers for women. If I would guess.

Very fun stuff

I have yet to see this work out for anyone. It’s a segue to divorce.

Unsurprisingly, men are more accepting of polygamy. If you don't want to commit to one person, don't get married. There's no shame in enjoying the single life.

The average lifespan of earlier humans were in the 30s, because of raids war and famin, and child morality under 5 years old were around 40%
Without polygamy humans could have gone extinct.
Comparing the whole human history monogamy is the exception.
But it’s different times now

The average lifespan of earlier humans were in the 30s, because of raids war and famin, and child morality under 5 years old were around 40%
Without polygamy humans could have gone extinct.
Comparing the whole human history monogamy is the exception
But it’s different times now

It’s like these idiots are having to rediscover the point of marriage and commitment from first principles, because they’re too stupid to understand why traditions and rituals evolved in the first place.

This is so f*cking weird and stupid TBH.

A LOT of internet conversations about men and women (or rather men VERSUS women) BY men specially in Red Pill community treat women as calculators who doesn't have feelings or even ideas other than gossip and bringing men down and getting most out of them as possible. While our hard wiring (in men and women) as animals IS very shrewd and direct it is not all we are. Perhaps the today's hard, busy and achievement centered society makes us everyone see each other as hard, busy and running after some elusive price.

While we are on our own quests in life we certainly are capable of warmth and empathy. Knowing what others feel is empathy. It is a sense that works through mirror neurons and it is in everyone of us - it is part of being an social animal - perhaps even more so with us primates. But what strikes me weird as f*ck is how our society is this way when we have the ability to feel each other's pain. Is the society and the LIFE itself so hard on us that we have to suppress the empathy so we wouldn't be in constant pain?

One even more f*cked up thing is that IF we'd choose to feel the feelings freely (happy, sorrow, joy, pain, everything) we would get better. If we'd choose the truth (meaning that you don't spin anything to make you feel better and you take the things as they come and as they are) most of our mental problems would just evaporate. This also is a painful at first; you must look inwards and recognize the waste and the bullshit in you - and then let it go. There's a lot of things you have learned in childhood that doesn't help you - perhaps you think you don't matter, or you are not enough? It takes time and effort after effort but after a while it gets easier. When you catch yourself making progress remember that feeling. Embrace and soak in it as far as it lasts, few seconds or something. After that comes the tail end of the feeling tap that gently and get ready to move on, my friend.

After you untangle the years of mess that is YOU the dealing with feelings is easy and fast.
Oh, and start moving. Exercise helps our brain fluids be optimal and since this earthly vessel we call body is a highly adaptable k*lling machine we'd do ourselves a disservice by NOT keeping it fit. About three times a week you push that hunting machine of yours as far and up as you have energy, choose your method. Also, be social if you can. In internet is fine but playful face to face interactions with real faces and persons have affects I have no idea. Accept no substitutes.
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DIMROOTS aka Nefelibatacomingthrough
(Pirkkala 05042023)

There’s got to be a power dynamic between two women sharing a household, a man, and possibly children. One of them is getting screwed the other not so much.

Wait, what’s H-Fest?

Chris is SO sold on the belief that all men want sexual variety, that he cannot believe the 50% who say they don't.

I would like to see a breakdown of men's attitudes towards open relationships by penis size. Is there any statistical difference between men with small, average, and large penises?

Nope, no acceptance for me. No way I’m sharing.

evolution is fake look at everything thru a biblical lense

and it shows how fallen this world is

Polygamy implies multiple mothers-in-law. Why would you want that?

I'll hard pass. One wholesome, loyal, and lasting monogamous relationship is all I need, and it's difficult enough to find. I want a real depth of connection, not a diversity / variety of half deep entanglements. I don't believe polyamory works, and do believe it is motivated by the sexual component in the west. It has in some Islamic cultures, because women wholly submit by religion, which creates a very toxic "ownership & obedience" dynamic. In my country India, independent of religious view - there's this divinity, responsibility, and duty assigned to Monogamy and the vow "Till Death do Us Part", and marriages have a track record of working, lasting, and growing. We have one of the lowest divorce rates in the world, under 1.3%, and that's what I want. My life is impermanent and fleeting, and I only crave lasting things within an already impermanent lifetime.

Most men just like rooting more than most women