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The problem with all these speaker reviews is that, like hinted, the price differences. A measuee of relative performance would be a better approach. Ex. If the Arendal are 100% and thr Klipsch are 80% overall, its a 20% performance difference. However to get a 20% boost in relative performance, you're paying 360% more. Thats why I think Klipsch is so popular. Not because they arevrhe best but because their price to performance ratio is hard ti beat.
ОтветитьThe sound of music is highly subjective. Get what you want, what sounds good to you.
ОтветитьThe SVS are attractive to me. My Denon does very good custom balancing which is significant. Thanks for the review.
ОтветитьCan't speak to the Arendal, but I had a set of SVS Ultra Towers for about a month with lots of listening. They're great speakers. Worthy peers to my Thiel CS2.3s. But I sent them back at announcement of SVS of a new Ultra Evolution series of speakers because I was going to wait for the new models. Then saw the "Made in China" labels on the SVS' and didn't like that at all. I thought they were made in USA. So wanting a great speaker made in USA choices are rather limited. Bought the Klipsch RF-7 IIIs. I'm day one and readers trust me when I say, there is no comparison between the SVS Ultras and the Klipsch RF-7 IIIs. It may be that my room is 23 x 21 with a 16-foot cathedral ceiling, but the only reason I am here posting this is because I feel compelled to tell people that I just don't think SVS are even in the same league as the RF-7 III speakers. The klipsch sound better from top to bottom, have way more dynamics (they seem alive!), are crisper (NOT HARSH AT ALL) and do everything from symphonic to hip hop to chamber strings with more delicacy or intimacy. They are stunningly great speakers and I've had everything from Polk to Definitive Techs to Thiels to SVS Ultras and now happy to keep the klipsch RF-7 IIIs forever. They are THAT good. I honestly don't understand why some speak of the Klipsch as being even in the same league, let alone ballpark as the SVS. Or it maybe I just happen to love the klipsch sound signature. I've never owned a set of speakers that literally evoke goosebumps or tears. The Kilpsh are that good. But it's a great time to buy a set of SVS Ultras for under $1000 each right now as they are blowing them out. But in my room with my gear, the SVS sound anemic by comparison to the lively, crisp, and well-rounded Klipsch RF-7 IIIs.
ОтветитьAre they 1000 dollars better? The Klipsch RP-8000f also came in a Piano Black for 200 dollars more, but maybe they weren't available at the time of this review. I'm not sure why someone would want $1800 Klipsch compared to a 3500 speaker, so now the question becomes, are they twice the price better? They RP-7 would have been the best comparison. Klipsch needs a break in time and perform best with tube or hybrid amps. Home theater Receivers I'd say NAD, Yamaha would be most appropriate. I would hope the Arendal sounded better.
ОтветитьProbably worth mentioning the Arendal is super low impedance thus very hard to drive. Class A monos anyone? :p
ОтветитьRp-8000fll… are improved greatly
ОтветитьSo no charts? No measurements? Just the good old “just trust me bro” ? Hmmm 🤔
ОтветитьHow about the Wharfedale EVO 4.4 Speakers. Which have been given a 5 star rating for around the same money.
ОтветитьThey are 1000 more but that includes shipping. you only need to add tax and now as of January they are increasing the price. Compared to my B&W 800 D3's they are very similar in sound and the B&W are 19K each.
ОтветитьArendal 1723's are $3800/pair, and Klipsch RP8000 are currently $700/pair. Even RP8000 II are only $1500/pair. Why bother even compare them? The Klipsch to bring to the fight are Klipsch RF7 III's which are $4400/pair, soon to go on sale I'm sure.
ОтветитьI wonder how the 1723's would compare to the new JBL L100 classic with it's hard core 12" woofer? Would it come close in the bass department?
ОтветитьHow do you compare Arendal to Def Tech speakers? Which do you prefer for Hometheater?
ОтветитьIncredibly interesting and important video. I've come to pretty much the same conclusions. Now I'm wondering how Arendal 1723 compete with top-tier... something like B&W 804 🧐 B&W are much more demanding to amplifier and sound source. But I can't imagine the difference in sound 🤔
ОтветитьI'd like to hear how the 1723's sound better than (which) more expensive speakers.
ОтветитьAre they an upgrade over the RF7-III?
Ответитьi love my klipsch brightness the best for movie i hear everthing
ОтветитьHave you listened to the Dali oberon 9? That would be a speakers in the SVS and klipsch price point.
ОтветитьWondering how would Focal Aria fit to this comparison
ОтветитьNice comparison.
How do the paradigm founders compare? For the extra price, are the 120h significantly better than all of these?
if i can get klipsch rp8000f ii for about $1500 a pair is it a good deal?
ОтветитьI recently had a demo of the monitor version and found them nice but their tweeter lacking. The main issue for me was sound of cymbals. The finish and build quality is great. But they aren't for me. Rock music in general just didn't sound as good as many other cheaper options.
ОтветитьI just got the RP-8000Fii for $1218
A steal !!!. Ill get the 1723s Christmas 2024...
Can you say where in Canada you live?
ОтветитьEver review legacy (discontinued) speakers? Id be interested in how the KLF-30s stack up to these speakers.
ОтветитьWhat if you going to compare that model of Arendal with MartinLogan 60XTi?
ОтветитьIf you want and Pre-amp only for the 2 front towers (Arendal) What would you suggest?
ОтветитьGolly, I'd hope the Arendal would be better at over 2x the cost of the 8000F. $1400 ($860 a pair on clearance) and $2400 for the SVS vs $3699. What's next? comparing elac DBR 6.2 vs dynaudio heritage special?
ОтветитьHello,I have been listening many of your videos for the last 2 years.
They are really good reviews.
But after all that time I was surprised to find out we are neighbors.
I always thought you were in USA until you mentioned living in Calgary.
Small world.
Just a week ago I saw some Sinus Faber VIII on sale on Kijiji.
But looks like they were sold yesterday because the add is gone.
I have been an audio addict for quite some time.
I am looking for a good set of floor standing speakers.
To match my Krell mono blocks MCT 350 that have been stored under my stairs since I moved 13 years ago.
I am trying to understand your changes of speakers and having difficulty.
It looked like the legacy were amazing speakers but then you changed them for the paradigm, then I see you had some S Faber.
Just looking at the base and the finish appear to be the nicest speaker of them all.Maybey guess is that they lack in low frequencies for your taste .
Now I see those 5 speakers from Era del Wich seem nice but completely different in price range and status.
Can you give a bit of expectation,I was really surprised you sold the Legacy.
I have never heard any of those speakers, I need to hear them
Thank you
Again very interesting videos.
Thanks.
André
Denon 3700.. Monolith 7 * 200.. Emotiva basx4 for atmos.... 7.2.4 Arendel 1723s LFC.. Arendal 1723s surrounds.. Arendal 1961s heights.. 2 Arendal 1961s Subwoofer.. Equals 😁😁😁
All connected with blue Jean Cables
Bought Fyneaudio F502SP for my mains, otherwise I would try the Arendals... Got a 1723 1S sub ... nice!
ОтветитьHey barret quick question for you brother . I have the klipsch rp 280 fa , 504c , rp 600m as rears,& the rp 502 as surrounds & four 500 sa atmos .Being ran off a marantz sr 6013 basically as a pre pro . Emotiva xpa 2 gen 2 for the two front 280's and a xpa 5 gen 2 for all the floor speakers . & a a4 for atmos . Thinking of getting rid of klipsch speakers for svs ultra towers & the rest of the matching set . Is it really worth it in your opinion, I know you have had all these ....
ОтветитьI would compare the 1723's to the JBL HDI 3800 which is around the same price point and same build quality. But from what I've heard the JBL are more detailed than the 1723's.
Good Luck
@SpecOfTech thanks for review. How do you think they are compared to Klipsch RF-7 iii? Because they are at the same price at my place.
ОтветитьLove your observations. Have you ever tested Canton I heard they sound very good.
ОтветитьAnother thing to add is, rhodium plated copper adds more emphasis on the midrange depth. Rhodium is far from the most conductive metal but when it breaks down into which frequencies due to metal composition, rhodium is chosen over golds warmness and silvers metallic sound. I use rhodium plated pure copper connectors for all my speaker wires. To me, it helps with air and smoothness in the treble and midrange. Bass seems less harsh than gold connectors as well. Just my opinion.
ОтветитьHow about Klipsch RF7 MK3 VS Arendal 1723 Tower? Same price and fair. Not the small 8000F.
Ответитьi would look for an MTM satellite above a bass box
like a SVS Ultra Tower ... but beheaded 😮
Well For one thing you could get the Klipsch RP 8000 for $700 a paire at certain times of the year but no more than $900, for that price you cout get 3 pairs of Klipsch for the price of the Arendal, I think when comparing the Arendals you have to use speakers around its price range like Bowers and Wilkins or Focal and when your talking Klipsch the RF 7 llls or some cheaper heritage speakers
ОтветитьAny comments on how the arendal 1723 compare to the founders 100F...
Also the paradigm center channel 90c vs arendal center?
I really wanted to buy the 1723's but having 2 kids in college I opted for the Heco Aurora 1000's and for less than $1200/pr I am very happy with what I am hearing. Maybe in a few years I will try the 1723's?
ОтветитьI would even choose the SVS Prime over the Ultras ( Not sure why the Ultras have that price tag ) Mono price or Arendal is the way to go :)
ОтветитьI just picked up SB 3000 sub to pair with my klipsch McLaren 5, Now that I got a taste of the glory I think I'm just going to have to go all in and get a full set up with tower speakers center channel with amp and receiver, This is going to be quite the rabbit whole, any suggestions? Hopefully spend around 3 to 5k, Also debating on upgrading to PB 3000 or rhythmic fvx12 sub
ОтветитьArendal 1723 is actually $4,299 USD
Ответить1961 comparison next?
ОтветитьI'm looking for a 3 way tower for a large room. I like loudness and dynamic of the Klipsch rp280f and forwardness but I want a more fuller wider sound with some warmth and some sparkle on the highs something that has bottom end and mid range and can play loud 90-100db but no fatiguing high lvl listening. Somewhere between laid back and forward.
ОтветитьWhat happened to the Paradigm 120H?
ОтветитьWould it be possible to compare the 1723 to the Tekton Double Impacts?
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