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'Protestants can be a united church'??
Some estimates put the protestant denominations at over 40 thousand and increasing.
United Protestant church is an oxymoron.
James is on a merry-go-round and cannot substantiate his views regarding right and wrong interpretation and totally unconvincig on the justification issue.
The problem is protestant can 't say what's essential to be a Christian.
ОтветитьI would encourage him to read what the Fathers say about John 6.
ОтветитьJD, I think you took it way to easy on James. You had so many opportunities to show him his illogical view on authority, Sola Scriptura and infallibility. I understand if you're trying not to be contentious, but you can still argue and be cordial. Anyway, my 2 cents. Thank you for making this video and keep up the good work.
ОтветитьCessation is not a biblical teaching but merely a theological doctrine wholly derived from tradition. A tradition less than 500 years old. James White, Doug Wilson, and John Macarthur all assume this extra biblical tradition and dont even bother to make a biblical case for why they believe it.
ОтветитьWhat an impossible position Protestantism is. Weak, weak weak. Jesus said, "He who believeth not shall be condemned." Fine. But - what exactly must one believe? What if you "believeth not" one thing? Jesus' parting words were, "teach them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded." All things? Not "most things"? What, exactly are "all those things"? Can one believe that God would burden every man on earth with the obligation to study the Bible (which was impossible prior to the printing press and literacy), and come up with a correct interpretation? It's never happened. First Luther, then Calvin, Zwingli, Henry VIII, John Knox, Anabaptists, Puritans blah blah blah. Private interpretation is too heavy a burden for every man and woman. I do not believe God would inflict this upon all of us. Is there a man among the Protestants who will admit he's not trustworthy? And where could he go if he admitted this truth? If you ask me, it's all egoism and disobedience.
ОтветитьSheesshhh...and they say Catholcism is difficult. These guys (protestants) cant even agree on one verse. Thats pretty sad.
ОтветитьGreat fun when adults argue over whose imaginary friend is the bestest.
ОтветитьThe words themselves state which position is correct. Catholic means universal as it is the church started by Christ to be spread throughout the world. Protestant is the one protesting that church started by Christ.
ОтветитьI was hoping JD would debate over who has authority to teach and interpret scripture. But this was all over too soon.
ОтветитьJames , u may not realize it, but u are on the early journey to the Catholic faith. Just keep doing ur research. Ur intelligent, and the light will go on one day
ОтветитьLet's say... Sunday night u go to ur protestant gathering. U don't agree with what the pastor or speaker says . So u tell ur friends , I've rented a unit in a building I've got signs printed up. We can get a printer to make some pages of what we believe and pass em out. Voila....another protestant church WHEN DOES THIS MADNESS STOP!!!!
ОтветитьHe says when there's a difference in interpretation you have to look at the early church. But then says he rejects purgatory even though he knows there is a lot of history to it, but then he must rely on his own interpretation of scriptures when it is pointed out the Bible does suggest there is purgatory?
ОтветитьYou keep saying the church which church.?
ОтветитьNone of us have clue if you on Jesus side cool shhhhi “don’t bother me about earthly matters” silly opinions of weak humans acts 2:21 romans10:9 Peter saw miracles still Denied christ to save his skin so did Thomas deny Jesus so what chance have we got pray love and forgive and shut up please you’ve only been on planet 5 mins job was told this
ОтветитьTry too have more reverence? He was not being disrespectful at all he was looking out for you in my opinion.
ОтветитьI’m blown away by the logical flaws in reasoning
ОтветитьOn what authority can our Protestant brother say these things to decide what is true and what he believes?
ОтветитьThe fact is/the truth is that our goal should be not to follow the creeds and dogma of even reasonably intelligent/ wise men and that applies to RC as well as Protestant communities. What is true about our journey of following Christ is that the further away from the truths and teachings of Christ and the New Testament (teachings of Paul and the other apostles) the more twisted and false our beliefs become. This is the case for all faith groups,Protestant and Roman Catholic, orthodox alike. Belief, doctrine often get watered down or become secondary in importance to what we or our forefathers thought or believed although false in certain aspects. We see this in Marianism , many Protestant voices on baptism and the teaching on infant baptism, celibacy in the church leadership, once saved always saved. We all profess to believe and want to follow Jesus Christ,at our best/ well let’s agree that He and the apostles got it right and not follow our own paths and and possibly false conclusions or that of other men because they often got it wrong, because we know that the Evil one is more than capable and willing to mislead and lie to you and me even though we may be well intentioned. Follow Christ and the scripture as revealed in the New Testament alone.
ОтветитьHow do they (Protestants) agree on what is a primary vs secondary issue? Tongues vs the Eucharist that is a big leap....the Eucharist is the premier issue I would say...definitely not secondary
ОтветитьCANDACE OWENS JUST BECAME A BAPTIZED CATHOLIC CHRISTIAN!! PRAISE GOD!! 🙏🏻🤍✝️😁⛪📖
ОтветитьI would trust those (Church Fathers) closest to the time Christ lived than someone many decades later. I believe if he listened to those church fathers he would realizes his arguments against don’t follow.
Additionally I don’t believe he answered or wanted to answer your John 6 question. We either believe the words Jesus teaches or we add our own meanings. I would rather listen to Jesus.
James…you’re almost there bud. Your curiosity of the early church fathers shows subliminal signs of Catholicism. Please, keep researching and never stop; you’ll be surprised how far you’ve come once you look back. God bless you brother ✝️🙏🏼
ОтветитьProtestant means protest that’s what Luther did in 1500 and on and on it goes The Catholic Church is the true church that Jesus instituted on Peter and the apostles God Bless
ОтветитьI have experience with debating protestants. Quickest way to end the Protestants views is simply to bring up the Catholic supernatural miracles that exist throughout the world. The Catholic Church is filled with them. Virgin Mary miracles that defy science, Eucharistic miracles, incorruptible bodies of priest and nuns that die and their bodies don't decay. And the list goes on. If I combine all the 30,000 plus protestant churches that exist today and I also combine all the Orthodox churches that exist today. Combined all together there is not a single supernatural miracle from heaven. That speaks volumes of where the truth is. I love all my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. Wherever the name Jesus is spoken Jesus will save people no doubt but to be able to claim authority and divinity you need to have some supernatural miracles to back up your claims. Any time something in the Bible was truly from God it was seen by supernatural miracles. And those belong exclusively to the Catholic Church the church that cannonized the Bible and told all generations what was holy and what wasn't.
This usually ends the debate because if science has no answer to all these Catholic supernatural miracles what can anyone do? If Einstein couldn't deny these miracles what can any of us do but be in awww of such beauty that Jesus has bestowed upon his Catholic church
So everyone, even all other pastors, are in error except you James. Got it. 🤦🏻♂️. You just contradicted yourself by almost every example. Yep that’s why I’m now catholic and no longer a pastor. 👌🏽 Thanks for agreeing with us.
ОтветитьThe difference between Protestant and catholic justification is that for protestants the holy law of God requires utter perfection. Transformative righteousness that we have given by God cannot meet that standard because of indwelling sin present even in believers . Christ was justified in his resurrection as he was all perfect and paid for the sins of the world. This legal righteousness of Christ is shared with all those who are engrafted and mystically united with Him by faith .This legal righteousness that Christ has can only satisfy the demands of God's holy law . Alongside this legal righteousness we also get Christs transforming life within us as we are united to him.
In terms of holy living we need to remember that If faith dies then we are cut off from Christ and we are not longer united to him and we loose all salvific benefits . How does faith dies? It is by persistent unrepentant sin . We need to have faith and repentance all throughout our lives just not in the beginning of our Christian lives .Repentance is not just sorrow over sin but also a turning to God . Compare Peter and Judas in their denial of Christ .
John Owen said that if we do not kill sin then sin will kill you . We can only kill sin in the Spirit as faith and repentance are gifts of God .It is God who preserves the faith of his elect as St Augustine would say
A lot of respect for the both of you for doing this. It was great and I hope there is a part 2.
The young man seems to be fifteen or twenty years away from converting to catholicism when you hear him talk. You can hear it in the way he speaks.
However at times he still speaks out of the both sides of his mouth, Saying a unified church is wrong but wanting one., Turning to the church fathers for interpretations but saying some of the things they taught were incorrect, And finally saying you don't have to be baptized even though the Scripture says you do.
Great job to the both of you and I hope you can do it again.
I might ask: do we have an infallible list of primary issues that all churches must agree on? Like who decided that trinitarianism was true over Arianism and that it’s a must have? If the council of Nicaea was fallible, then wouldn’t trinitarianism possibly be up for grabs? Because Arians wouldn’t have been such a big problem if they couldn’t (appear to) substantiate their views from scripture.
ОтветитьI appreciate the consistently solid catholic content of this channel God bless
ОтветитьSadly the Protestant is weak
ОтветитьGo back to the Church Fathers..... HELLOOOOOOO The early Church Fathers were Catholic.
ОтветитьThe only purpose of this channel is to get all Christians to fight among themselves in the comments, what a shame. please don't fall for it.
Please use your energy to save aost soul ... the time is short
The words of Saint Irenaeus of Lyons (written around 175 AD) who fought against the heresies of the Gnostics. The Church safeguards truth.
"The Church…has received from the apostles and their disciples this faith…although scattered throughout the whole world, yet, as if occupying but one house, carefully preserves it. She also believes these points [of doctrine] just as if she had but one soul, and one and the same heart, and she proclaims them, and teaches them, and hands them down, with perfect harmony, as if she possessed only one mouth. For, although the languages of the world are dissimilar, yet the import of the tradition is one and the same. For the Churches which have been planted in Germany do not believe or hand down anything different, nor do those in Spain, nor those in Gaul, nor those in the East, nor those in Egypt, nor those in Libya,"
Mary NEVER RESURRECTED and has nothing to say today ! Paul casted out a demon from a woman in Ephesus even she was saying the trueth !
ОтветитьHe says Protestants don’t agree on secondary issues , but what are the essential doctrines of Protestantism which they all agree ? Sadly the answer is there is none
ОтветитьPentecostals don't believe in the Holy Spirit? Isn't the Pentacost about being baptized in the Holy Spirit?
ОтветитьThe Bible interprets itself?? I didn’t know objects could do that.
ОтветитьSix days of Creation and the seventh day God rested, all creation was completed.
ОтветитьThe Church is individual believers in Christ, and gather in one place to congregate and collectively worship God.
ОтветитьSpeaking in tongues is spontaneous speaking an unknown language prompted by the power of the Holy Spirit as shown in the book of Acts.
ОтветитьJesus Christ is the justifier, He did it all.
ОтветитьThat's exactly the problem. If everyone puts his own personal interpretation of scripture that is why Christianity is so divided
ОтветитьJesus is the saviour not us and our good deeds.
ОтветитьUnder what authority does a protestant tells another protestant that he or she is wrong? At what certainty does the protestant accuse another protestant of heresy? 80%90% certainty? There are no dogmas in protestantism...only differing opinions.
ОтветитьThe problem is that some protestants churches concider things as primary that others see as secondary. Question is who has the authority to define what is primary and what is secondary.
ОтветитьBaptismal regeneration would have been a much better example to illustrate the point.
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