Top Mormon Historian Admits CES Letter has Validity - Richard Bushman | Ep. 1934

Top Mormon Historian Admits CES Letter has Validity - Richard Bushman | Ep. 1934

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Today we are joined with Sandra Tanner to discuss Mormon historian, Richard Bushman's recent response to the CES Letter. Bushman's response was on the topic of the translation of the Book of Mormon. Did Joseph Smith really use a seer stone? Is the author of the CES Letter, Jeremy Runnells, wrong for feeling betrayed by the church? Did the church really hide that Joseph Smith had and used a seer stone to translate their most sacred text? Join us to find out these answers!

To view the original interview with Bushman click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAAKV1JDBHk&t=230s

Show Notes: https://www.mormonstories.org/mormon-historian-admits-issues-in-ces-letter/

00:00:00 Intro
00:04:13 A call to be on Mormon Stories
00:05:45 Background of what’s going on with the push against the CES Letter
00:22:55 Who is Richard Bushman?
00:26:45 Richard Bushman admits many problematic things from the CES Letter
00:31:21 Clip - Book of Mormon Translation context and timeline
00:38:29 Clip - How long did the translation take?
00:44:50 Clip - What does the translation process look like?
00:51:50 Samuel Lawrence, the spectacles and treasure digging
01:00:00 Pictures of Joseph Smith with the plates in the room
01:03:24 Clip - Dedicating through “just a rock”
01:06:15 The story of Martin Harris switching Joseph’s rock
01:13:31 Clip - The technology of these things”
01:17:40 Images of Joseph Smith’s seer stone
01:19:14 Clip of Elder Holland talking about prophets, seers and revelators
01:22:20 Treasure digging and Joseph Smith’s special powers
01:29:53 Clip - “It was not widely told… it’s not part of the story”
01:34:55 Problems with Apostles John A. Widtsoe
01:42:50 Quote from Joseph Fielding Smith against the seer stone
01:45:44 Clip - The Brethren need to be educated?
01:57:30 Did Mormon leaders NOT know about the stone?
02:01:55 Manuals that did NOT have the seer stone referenced
02:10:42 The church throwing artists under the bus
02:12:43 Clip - Jeremy shouldn’t feel offended
02:19:00 Stop saying we choosing to be offended
02:20:58 Clip - Joseph Smith’s treasure digging is degrading
02:26:22 Hannah Stoddard’s troublesome quote
02:29:11 Clip - President Nelson demonstrating the translation process
02:33:06 Clip - Part of working class culture
02:40:11 Clip - Joseph Smith changed his history?
02:44:05 Clip - It wasn’t a real lie
02:52:15 Clip - What was the purpose of the plates?
03:03:10 Kinderhook plates translation
03:04:53 Clip - The Book of Mormon was broadly reshaped
03:11:18 Clip - Did Joseph Smith fabricate the plates?
03:23:30 Clip - Bushman saying there are no answers
03:37:00 Final remarks

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