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Is it safe for women travellers to afghanistan?
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Ответитьi read that bactrian soldiers were send by bactrian leader oxyartes to greeks in iran but it was a mistake cuz after alexander's & roxane's death the locals of bactria didn't get political or influental or other important positions in the greko-bactria anymore but only mainly greeks so that shortly after also oxyartes lost his position as a bactrian and paropamisadean(=hindukushian) chief or vassal, at least in 305 BC. the proto-bolgars originally got 0% to do with turks or huns or ugrians or uralofinns or slavs or elsewhat but the original proto-bolgars who did their first migration-wave around 300 BC came from bactria (north afghanistan) and were iranic bactrians=balkh people=balkhars/balkars/bolkars/bolhars, their chief oxyartes and they lose every influence/control to the greeks at that time so a part of them left bactria and went via north iran to north-caucasus, that's already proven that in the time of georgian king mirvan (around 160 BC) & the king of armenia vaharshak the first (since 150 BC) the bolkars were mentioned. in the time of kolchi-georgia's king mirvan (reigned since 167-162 BC) the proto-bolgars/balkars were already well known as northern neighbours of georgia's kingdom in north-ossetia, they were rather been seen as kinda troublemakers for the georgian state and also were mentioned in the texts that at the west-part of the terek river not far away from malka river (by the way the name originally was called balka river before karachai people changed it with their b to m dialect-accent) the proto-bolkhars met the scythians there but they went away from them, so you can see that the georgian chronicle text say the earliest bolgars did not belong to the scythian group like some people try to think, so in that time you can say the main areas of the bolghars were kabardino-balkaria & karachai-cherkessia/adygeya. in the following years a chieftain or king of the proto-bolgars is known according to armenian sources he was called vund (that name is an iranic word that can be translated as the main one/basic/base or sometimes winner) so you see around this time 150-140 BC when the bolkars were definetely already well documented by georgians and also armenians for their chronicles no one ever heared of turks i mean definetely not in the north-caucasus region there were no turkic language (the first people with definitly turkic language who came to the west=wolga region were the göktürks=turquts 550 AD or so). proto-bolgarian chief vund allied with the king of armenia and a part of the proto-bolgars moved to armenia and builded settlements there and stayed there (this region would became known as vanand region and vanando is also a bactrian word and by the way in the pamiric languages especially munji and sanglechi which are together with pashto the descendant-languages of bactrian the word for ceramic vessels is similar with the bulgarian and balkarian words for it: kunar kundor kondar or so). in a roman source king vund were later killed in armenia by a roman man who saw in the bolkharian chieftain vund an enemy to rome, he was killed sneaky from behind after beeing spyied out (also there can be an interpretation that it was not him but already his son or even grandson especially in the possible case that vund could be a title=main one/basic one like leader/chief/head/mainman). the other part of bolhars stayed in north-caucasus. there was later a second migration-wave from bactria/oxus that is archeologically proven it's connected with an archeological culture of settlements of similar type that existed from BC times to the time 150 AD when these settlements (which were generally near the oxus river) were left and these people then moved to the north-caspian region and after they went further to azov region and adygean-cherkessian, balkarian and north-dagestan region. so i count around 6 sources that falls in the pre-hunnic time where proto-bolgars were mentioned by other peoples and that's what's interessting cuz it was before that time of atilla etc. since then they start mixing more and more and also their language and culture etc. so it's annoying that a lot of people wanna start proto-bolgars' history from the time upwards of atilla and the hunns (since 370 AD or so) when the hunns somehow forced some people to get in their confederation and intermixing the cultures and language and genetic, for example did the roxolans prefered to leave that area and went to the west while alans and ostrogoths and bolgars get in the confederation of atilla. but for me is of course interessting the time of bolgars before 370 AD when they had not so much foreign elements or influence or intermixing like in 370-700 AD. they had before that time already shared with other people(s) the same area or i would better said a part of the bolgars who for example lived somewhere more in the east areas (i think rather the area kalmykia or maybe chechen or nogai territoy) i read about an archaeological culture somewhere there where alans and bolgars lived together (that was maybe 350 AD or so i think before atilla but i don't remember for sure the dating of that culture). but the other people in the pre-atilla's times (100 years before) with whom the proto-bolgars allied in north-kaukasus in a battle against (if i remember well) the georgians in 250-270 AD were the kacirs/katzirs (the question is were these allied people the proto-khazars or the akatsirs? the akatsirs lived normally somewhere in the east-balkans or north-romania and are sometimes described as being descendants of the agathyrsians but without a sure proof), but also here is important to see that the (bolgar but in that source the name was surely written with an r bargars what happened 3 times or so that some sources called the bolgars with r borgars) leader/chief of the battle against the georgians(?) who leaded the bolgars and kacirs around 270 BC had a real iranic name, his name was surkhap, what can be compared with the name of the surkhab river in afghanistan or the southernmost uzbekistan region surkhan-daryo or with the malename from tajikistan sukhrob, that "surkh" means "red" in first case but in second case "south" and "ap" would actually means "water" (maybe it could also be an adjective-ending? or also possible is that the name shows an identity to the surkhab river area in afghanistan?). so in other sources in the time shortly before atilla's huns arrived but in the area north-ossetia & balkaria & cherkessia (i think also bordering parts of abkhazia) is documented the burka land or burgant in this area which has again in the name the r dialect but meant are surely the bolgars as the people who gave that land the name. around 350 AD bulgars are mentioned by the byzantines or romans as "vulgares". around 600 AD the bolgars already lived in a wide stretched areal from the don & wolga region to the dagestan region and were already mentioned as sub-groups: the kupi-bolkars, duchi-bolkars, olghondor-bolkars, khadar-bolkars, azov-bolkars. until the time around 200-300 AD you can say they were still unmixed iranic bactrians but later came the foreign infuence or intermixing and language-shift to onoguric language or oguric or saviric or proto-hungarian & early-turkic or huno-turkic alike language(s) or whatever they call it that was spread around in that time 400-600 AD but it was for sure not the original language of the early proto-bolgars but the language with roots in bactria. around 630 AD (probably even years earlier but in the south like balkaria/adygeya region later in the azov region) bolgars startet their independent state, 40 years later the khazars took over, in the next years a lot of bolgars searched for new lands to settle so a part of them came to balkan under asparukh (that is also an iranic name=aspar means horse-rider or aspa=horse and rukhs=shining & there is a tajik name that has a cognate in the name-building to aspa-rux/asparukh that is shah-rux/shakhrukh) and they estabilished the independend danube bulgaria kingdom in 681AD, another part of bolgars went to tatarstan & chuvashia and established the wolga bolgaria kingdom in 700 AD. i read also that in bulgaria archeologists found a (zoroastrian) firetemple, i don't know the exact source i only read that they talked of an evidence that it's a firetemple (like an iranic one) what they found in bulgaria. we have four peoples who are descendants of proto-bolgars (from origin real iranic people from bactria & some partly from bordering khoresmia and sogdia) these are: bulgarians, (generally south) chuvashes, tatars (including also mishars), (generally cherek region) balkarians. these 4 peoples are genetically heavy mixed with other different peoples: the tatars are mixed with kipchaks, tataro-mongols, finno-ugrians and slavs. the chuvashes are also as mayority heavy mixed with finno-ugrics and slavs and turks. the danube bulgarians are mixed with thracians and slavs and a bit greco-romans. balkarians are mixed with autochthon caucasian people (adygeans & kabardinians) & kumano-kipchaks/karachai people. even before these 4 people (proto-bolgars descendants) settled in their today's "homeland" and mixed with the native people, they were at the time around 650 AD already mixed to some degrees with barsils, savirs, onogors, kutrigurs, alans, esegels, etc. modern famous descendants of these mixed bactrians/bolgars are for example irina shayk (tatar from father's side supermodel-actress), aleksandra petrova (chuvash beautyqueen), vasiliy chapaev (chuvash bolshevik-commander-hero), vladimir lenin (chuvash from father's side soviet leader), nikolay valuyev (tatar from mother's side champion-boxer), alsu (tatar singer), timati (tatar from father's side rapper), nikita bichurin (chuvash writer-traveler), aleksandr kuprin (tatar from mother's side novelist), andriyan nikolaev (chuvash astronaut), zemfira (tatar singer), giga-chad aka ernest khalimov (tatar fitnessmodel-meme-cultfigure).
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