RAPPEL MODES 10 WAYS OF RAPPELLING WITH A FIGURE 8

Ces méthodes vrillent énormément les cordes! A user avec précaution! Merci à la chaine!

any tricks for using a set of tiny rings to adjust and lock off amsteel hammock suspension?

In the standard mode I have read the rope can slip upwards and cause a hitch. any experience with this?

Ill stick to standard method ,large radius,less wear on rope.

The munter hitch looks like it puts unnecessary wear on the rope with it rubbing like that.

I see you havent posted in roughly a year or so?! I genuinly hope none of your half cocked open your life support during descent and sketchy side loading techniques failed you my brother!!! I commend your fearlessness, creative spirit and originality! But you sir... Must have much more testicular fortitude than I with all that side loading and life support opening stuff!! Good video still!! Cheers!!!

The video is very interesting, but with this format you use about one third of the available video area and some time we can not see what are you doing with the descender.

Super simple to follow. Thanks dude!

Now i have 9-10 choices more to do with my figure 8, however i have to test these mothods by myself about friction levels before use in real situation, and thank you very much for this informative video.

Your inventions seem unsafe or useless to me. You are sideloading your biners and If you unload the system and then load it again, elements can shift and the non-locking gates could just take you off the rope. Opening your locking carabiner in flight and then changing the brake direction is not good either. Now you need to remember to do something else. Rappel on a munter is for emergencies like if you lose your 8. You endanger your viewers. Please stop.

What a load of made up, what I call it, bollox

Thank you for sharing these various ways of setting up the figure 8 with your rope. I’ve made a small repelling set up to include uncertain backpacking trips into the woods. Better to have, and not need that not to have and find myself in a situation needing it.
Cheers🎉

I am surprise to see that you put the rope by thé bottom of thé 8 ...by thisnway you do noté avoid thélark knot if thé rope touchbthebroc 😮

as soon as he recomended opening the carabiner under load, i knew he was mostly a hobbist.
take what you hear with a grain of salt.
never even unlock your gate under load, of course unless youd like to take the fast way down.

Nice... well done..!😊

I don't like to be the dick in the comments section but this is sketchy and you should not take this guy's advice. The techniques in this video violate many safety principles with no benefit. Point number one: it's always best to have a locking carabiner between you and death, and there's really no reason you shouldn't. Don't use a non locker as part of your system. Always tie knots in the ends of your ropes to close the system. Lastly, creativity is great and all, but setting up a rappel shouldn't be creative. It should be as consistent as possible and once you've found something that works well for you, stick with it. Do it that way every time. Only change it under special circumstances such as adding more friction when using a very thin rope or rappelling with a heavier load.

Can you do a munter hitch on a figure 8? Here's an opinion from a full time rope access professional.

Listen, there is no "can you do this" there are only manufacturers recommended modes of usage (for any given device) and usage not recommended by manufacturer/ device not designed for given implementation.

Then the question changes into "is it possible to use a device in this manner and will doing so kill you?" In the case of a munter, then the question is obviously "can you tie a munter hitch through a non-opening device?" The answer is clearly yes, but then this becomes a non-midline attachable device.

So can you use a munter on an 8? I'd say "as long as it doesn't present failure modes that are likely to kill you, then the only apparent problem is it becomes non-midline attachable."

Carabiner break bar and the carabiner cross mode are side loading the biner

Great video!

This guy really be out here just making modes up

really great information. need to know stopper knots with that thing now.. thanks.

double standard is what usually what I use for ballet

how do you get pass a knot if the figure 8 is stuck to the rope 💩

Like half of these are improper use, use the damn thing right rather than showing people techniques that can fail. Never open a carabineer while loading it, for starters!! C'mon, common sense please.

If you use 'canyon plus' mode but then clip the two carbiners into a third caribiner which attaches to the harness, this is good for people just learning to rappel. It puts everything in front of their line of sight (Make sure long hair is tied up!), and they are less likely to feed their hand through it! Good video, some techniques I'm going to try that I didn't know about after 42 years of climbing and teaching.

"This is probably the fastest way to rappel"
Ya that's always been my problem, rappelling is just too slow...[sarcasm]
Also, no s#!t, there's only 2 points of fiction, so I can imagine it's going to be "sporting"!

The reason people answer 'no' to the munter hitch question is that it goes without saying that any system should be detachable from the rope, e.g. when you reach an anchor. You can detach yourself from the 8 but you can't remove it from the rope, unless you have access to one of the ends.

I'm not saying it doesn't have applications, of course, but it's a different category from all the other systems that can be attached and detached w/o accessing one of the ends.

But overall it's an interesting video. People forget that climbing was a thing way before the invention of modern devices.

Black Diamond instructions on the Super 8 seems to show method #2 ("Sport Mode") as one of the ways to die on this gear haha - am I seeing it wrong?

No entiendo porque suben como usar los equipos de manera incorrecta eso es peligroso.

helpful, yet I'm far more likely to be rappelling off 2 strands, Not 1. Many of these methods would still work, some would be convoluted. likely to use #2, 8, 9, 10 for 2 strands. Any input? Thanks

In the cross carabiner mode, you have a sideways load on the 'biner gate. Not good!

clip the fig 8 large hole to your belt krab. take a bight of rope and thread through the small 8 hole and clip a loose 2nd krab into that rope loop. now take your free rope into into a rope loop and pass through big fig 8 hole and connect this loop to your second crab and rotate that krab so the gate is away from your break hand now you have 2 loops across your break bar.

you never had to unclip your gig 8 and ropes never passes near brake bar krab gate.

liked and subbed your great vid ty.

Should one use a prusik as a backup when respelling?

hello from iraq with you well done

It’s a great video! Thank you so much.

Why? Why confuse matters, and why with s figure 8 of all things? Also, why are aboutthe fastest? The point is to get down SAFELY

Q lindo ese es un ocho cuanto vale ese muy lindo nolo tengo yo escalo altura ami nivel saludo amigo

thanks, all I needed to know about figure 8 :) that belay mode is something im going to have fun with next.

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"carabiner brake bar" mode look sketchy as fuck!

Oh man. The best tutorial ever! Cheers from Australia just subbed.nice work!🙂👍👍👍

😮😮😮😮

Aucun intérêt.

The last one looks like it would ruin the rope in a hurry.

The canyoning mode (without your modification) is crazy...why anyone would rely on that is beyond me. Your mod should be considered mandatory. Well done video. Thanks

i am now pro

A huge WARNING, this is NOT FOR BEGINNERS!!!

Need back up prusik for gunter hitch