Video Test: Shooting NTSC in a PAL Country - why record PAL in Europe!

Do you live in a PAL region or NTSC region? Leave a comment!

I set mine to ntsc when i press record it is saying recording is unavailable please help

Ich bin kein Professioneller Filmer. Ich Mag Camcorder mit SD Card als Speichermedium.
Diesen Camcorder, Panasonic ag-dvc7p camera, habe ich in den USA gesehen. Es handelt sich um einen NTSC Camcorder. Er ist neu. Er kostet nur 150€. Lohnt es sich ihn zu kaufen und nach Deutschland mitzubringen? Die Bilder auf SD Card würde ich auf Dvd brennen.

Disagree.
Outdors only 30p because it looks smoother then 25 ore 24, and indors 25 if its flickering,
and use this 25 on 30p timeline...
Ok it makes extra every 5th frame copy but its better than flickering lights...
25 p indors also gives longer shutter and lower ISO = less grain on video quality.
Thats how I think.

The flickering is not caused by the framerate, but by the shutterspeed. Try shooting this lamp at 30 FPS with a 1/50 shutter and you will see no flickering.

Why does it matter? We all use iphone and android. Pal ntsc doesn’t matter anymore

Very useful - I was searching for EXACTLY this information!

Am in pal region but want to shoot a documentary which will be shown in NTSC region..any help?

Im in Germany and NTSC 60 fps at 1/100 is usually no problem. Modern cameras should finally drop this stupid PAL/NTSC setting because shutterspeed fixes flickering most of the time. 100% of consumer cameras are used for social media displayed on 60Hz screeny anyway so 24, 25 and 50 fps dont make any sense.

In Japan we have both 50hz/60hz, a lot of the time smartphone cam are smart enough to deal with 50hz lights when recording at 30fps, I live at 60hz part of Japan, but if you go to Tokyo it's all 50hz so most of the time cheap dashcams sometimes struggles on capturing the trafic lights because it's 50hz in Tokyo , it's kinda stupid to see why this country have both of it haha
Tho to be honest, I'm one of those people who actually see some 50hz light flicker sometimes so looking at 50hz is kinda annoying to me.

Can I ask why might you want to shoot in NTSC in Europe? Like what circumstances would you prefer to do that? Why not just stick to 25fps? Thanks

Thank you 🙂

Just set your shutter to 100th second

If I record the video in 25fps in a Pal country, and export it to 23fps (Cinema) will that affect the final export of the video?

I live in Europe and when i record a video the lights are flickering, maybe i should use NTSC?

What Happens when i shoot NTSC in a PAL Country with 24fps and 1/50 shutter no Flicker?

So freaking useful! Thanks!!!!

It isn't,if you are in PAL country,shoot at NTSC 60P 1/100,it can avoid filcker.

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I own a point-and-shoot HD camcorder that is apparently locked to 25 fps. (Maybe a firmware flash could open up more frame rates, but I've never gone down that avenue.) I've been to the USA on holiday with it and shot footage under artificial lighting conditions, and it looks fine on playback.

I rarely see it. Also alot of display equipment now works @ 60Hz so you can end up in environments such as train stations with monitors running at 60Hz and lights @ 60Hz. This also means that though TVs run at multples of 50Hz, phones, tablets and monitors display again at multiples of 60Hz. It is a complicated situation, and you are right - it depends on your usage. I live in Belgium, and stick with NTSC to get 4K @ 30 fps. Even if I did get flickering, the advantages would outweigh the disadvantages of dropping to 25 fps.

PAL is the main system in south america too.....brasil pal m argentina uruguay y paraguay pal n

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Informative!

Good video. Will surely use in my upcoming vlog.

Smartphone video cameras are becoming very good for shooting video, but it's s really frustrating me that they do not support 25p, only 30p, what are your views on this? It seems that no one cares, but 50hz flickering lights look terrible if shot on a 30p smartphone. Will smartphone manufacturers ever realise that 3/4 of the world need 25p smartphone cameras?

Excellent explaination, thanks!

thank you for sharing very informative godbless

Many cartoon network's cartoon in Europe was dubbed in PAL and I really hate this fact!

Can we mix 25 or 50 with 24 or 60 in the same timeline?can we export in 24 on a pal region?

Question: do regular ceiling LED lights flicker too?

Well done...
But man your eyes doesn't blinks at all 😮🤔🤔

You can shoot 30fps in Europe without seeing any flickering from electric light sources if you use a shutter speed of 1/50s rather than 1/60s. If you are shooting in 1080 or 4k, then the PAL/NTSC option with some cameras (Sony) makes no difference other than allowing different frame rates. I don't really know why Sony persist with requiring this choice. Nikon, for example, do not; the menus simply allow one to choose any of the usual frame rates of 24, 25, 30, 50, 60 etc. and there is no need to reformat the memory card when switching between them.

Thanks a lot, now I get it!

Very helpful, thanks.

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If I'm filming outside can i use NTC? , I live in Europe.

Clear and informative video. Seems like its important to make PAL/NTSC decision at the outset. Changing between NTSC and PAL rates is not always straightforward - it requires the memory card to be reformatted on the camcorder I am thinking of buying (Panasonic VXF1).

NTSC = Never Twice the Same Colour.

very useful video! Thnks!!!!

PAL? NTSC? HD TV standards do not use Analog standards. You are talking about line field rates. In the olden days UK films for the cinema used to have problems with HMI lights as films for the cinema film at 24 fps or multiples. THe basic idea about flicker in Europe is correct. I find undiffused FLoursecents in Europe give me a migraine attack due to the flicker and old CRT TV's I could only watch in strong light. So if you are an amateur shooting in Europe using domestic electric lighting you probably want to shoot in 25fps but your phone and computers may well produce odd stuttering when you replay as most phones and computers output 60 fps or multiples unless connected to a 50hz computer when the skips may start. Equally if you go to a 60hz country like North America, most of South and central America, Japan one hald (the Electric supply for half of Japan was installed by the Birts and half by the USA so Japan is both) then you want to shoot in 60 hz or mulitples NTSC and PAL are now dead formats as analog has finished but real boradcast NTCS is 29.97 fps not 30 but the synch hold on the tv can cope with this. If you are a commercial or professional cinematographer then you will tek lights with you that are not ac cycle dependent, often battery lights are used for News and Features, and you will shoot for your end market. If it is for theatrical distribution then 4k or 8k 2160 or 4320 and the modern trend is 48 fps or even 96 fps (this is to provide highest quality and greatest flexibility on cgi and effects. You always aim to master 1 level higher than you distribute, If you are shootong to Streaming or Disk then probably 2160p60 or for the new devices 2160p120 . Remember domestic lighting is only one fector. You need to ensure your video plays well on your intended distribution and so I would take a couple fo battery lights and shoot 24 for tehatrical or multiples and 60 for streaming, disk or tv. If you are in a 50hz area and your ditribution is TV only then I would go for 50 and multiples. Before you ask, yes you can get Cameras that switch between the line field rates but they a re professional models and substantially more expensive than using an amateur camcorder or your phone. Also Professional cameras require a higher level of technical understanding to operate correctly as much more flexibilty is offered to create correct image quality. .

If you get the flicker here in the US I change the shutter to 1/80th and it goes away.

Sir how do you mix ntsc and pal video together in same time line? I have a used camcorder I buy from ntsc region and I live in PAL land. I wanted to add the NTSC footage in my pal time line or vice versa. What would be the best solution for this? Is better to work with pal timeline and convert NTSC to match or is better to work in NTSC timeline and convert pal to match it? What software for converting frame rate and I don't mean like slow motion it or other setting , just want to have audio match in end of rendering for both clips and playback in real time.

Good, thankyou.

My samsung s9 only supports up to 25fps in PAL

I live in germany....

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Great video :) Love this straightforward explanation regarding lights (studio vs home light bulbs)!