Suddenly Submerged: The Loss of FV Emmy Rose

I think they do the transfer that if they get a leak in one tank they don't run out of fuel.

i would have thought the importance of maintaining watertight integrity was something that would need to be emphasied tbh.

If there's random drug testing in the more dangerous and/or responsible job roles on land and in the air, I think a complete ban on drugs in jobs like fishing should be in place.
It's well proven that your ability to think and act quickly and decisively are seriously hampered whilst under the influence of drugs and alcohol so they should be strictly prohibited when you step on board any vessel. I've seen enough of Deadliest Catch to know that drugs and alcohol addiction are a serious problem within the fishing industry, it needs to be cleaned up.

If you work at sea you will learn to work when severely sleep deprived whether it be Commercialy or in the Navy

Credit where credit is due. Top research. No hyperbole or hypothesis. Pure fact

I've been enjoying a few of your videos and I've found the research and narration excellent.

The amount of unrecorded weight I’ve seen added to a vessel over my 15 year term at sea is stupid

Extra gen sets
More lights on the masts

It all adds up

Dude a captain falling asleep at the wheel holy shit I can’t imagine anything sketchier. I work on commercial fishing vessels in the northeast, usually on ground fish vessels like the Emmy rose, and I’ve seen some sketchy shit, hard drug use and near collisions and all that good stuff, but I have never heard of a captain sleeping at wheel

Shrimp boats with outriggers: Those outriggers are not a waste of time, one item that is carried on those poles is the stabilizers, they cut down the ships rolling by 85 to 90%

Sounds like people treat the out riggers on the boats the same way people treat weight distribution hitches and air shocks on towing vehicles.
They don't increase your towing capacity, they make towing at capacity more comfortable...

I was a hand on a clam boat out rock harbour on the cape for a few years and my ship now lies under the ocean somewhere off RI. The ship was sold so someone out of NY and sunk while underway. That ship was a nightmare, she was constanly taking on water and on one occasion the water was even coming over the main drive shaft. I dont miss that hunk of rusted steel and my heroin addict captain

OK so not being a sailor of any sort this could be a dumb question but, if they are not used nor provide zny extra stability why don't they remove the out riggers when converting these former shrimp vessels for of shore fishing?

I live in that area, and never ever thought about being a fisherman. I remember driving over the bridge when i was a kid. All the boats were rust buckets now a days they are in a lot better shape, probably due to less owner operators.

This is another reason why I don't go fishing offshore anymore it's a tough job to begin with and also dangerous

I worked on deck with that captain for 15-20 trips. I always thought and said he would end up killing somone.

I wonder if it was a rogue wave

I live in Massachusetts myself and I never heard of this

Watching this and realizing we have one of these boats at our docks has me staring at it wondering how they think a paint job was all it needed

Very consciencious presentation. Good explanations for those of us who have been to sea, but not fishermen.

I must ask as I do not know. Are all fishing vessels, like the one we saw the Coast Guard inspecting, that much in disarray or is this normal? To me, it just looked like tripping hazards everywhere, tools and various items scattered all about. It looked abandoned.

I’m aware that fatigue is a prevalent issue in the industry, but I often wonder if narcolepsy is ever at play… it presents as fatigue but when you’re looking for it, the diagnosis can be fairly easy to make.
If so, what course of action could be recommended that wouldn’t be a discriminatory practice? No one volunteers to have an overactive and extremely shortened internal circadian cycle, and shouldn’t lose opportunities because of something so thoroughly out of their control.
Furthermore, narcolepsy and ADHD are neurochemically treated the same way: with stimulants. And don’t that just bring on a host of potential dangers! Between frequent supply chain issues, figuring out an appropriate dose, and the effects of withdrawal (because sometimes you just forget to reorder/refill your Rx with enough supplies to last in the in-between), so much of a person’s body is wrenched from their own control. Can’t imagine how some people manage it in any industry, let alone commercial fishing.

the atlantic feared the Codfather

"Free Surface Effect" otherwise known as "Tank Slap". Especially terrible with older tanker trailers that dont have internal baffles. Seen plenty of overturned trucks on the highwat because of Tank Slap.

Guy has become an all time favorite channel

I really appreciate your channel! I have been interested in maritime safety issues since the Estonia disaster, which really touched me at the time (I'm from Finland and was 6 years old when it happened). I have since watched my fair share of documentaries in the field. I have to say you've nailed it with these videos! The cases are very interesting without unnecessary sensationalism. And I love the fact that you take time to explain the multiple (possible) reasons for these tragedies and what recommendations are given to avoid them in the future.

I'm all for someone smoking weed..when you're at home and dont have other people's lives at stake. Its a no brainer, one would think anyway.

I would love to see an update on this sad story. RIP to all those lost at sea.

I'd like to add a little info. I did a light Google search about burn-n-return diesel tank setups. There appears to be a pretty common issue of multiple-fuel-tank boats pulling fuel from one tank, but returning fuel to another. Of course, not every ship is piped the same way regarding engine(s) and diesel fuel routing. On some ships, leaving the unit alone will make it run evenly from each tank. On others, you'd have to take control and force certain valves open and possibly others closed to try making the system balance out. Also, on some setups, you could have a simple clog or blockage, or otherwise failure in one pickup or return pipe, and who knows what the system is setup to default to in that instance? Would every crew member be aware of the unique engine quirks of each ship they work? When you think about it for a little while, you would expect there to be a redundant system for as many engine-related systems as possible, with fuel plumbing being a top priority. My 2 cents... here's a slightly related story to make a good point if anyone is interested, but it's wordy: I once worked on a large on-land generator - I was maintaining them for a company. It was a Cummins 16 cylinder diesel running an Onan genset. Big boy. The generator was inside a shed thing, but the main diesel fuel tank was located outside underground. Inside the shed was a smaller day tank for the fuel. An iron pipe and a transfer pump kept a simple fuel level in the day tank by pumping it in from outside when needed. The boss ordered a hot pressure washer out to clean off the diesel engine because it was covered in black grease and oil badly. He suspected an oil leak somewhere, likely the crank case breathers up top leaking out used oil below as the airplane-force cooling fan on the radiator misted and spread oil everywhere. Wrong. It turned out to be a small, out of sight diesel fuel leak in the corner of the room where the iron pipe came in from outside. Somehow the fresh fuel was leaking out the black iron pipe in the corner, then slowly creeped down the outside of pipes and/or hoses and made its way to the engine. Again, the fan for the radiator on this thing was hurricane force and it would throw around and atomize any liquid around the area. Didn't take long for the engine to appear to be covered in used oil since the diesel would dry out and attract dirt quickly. Point is, these machines and their systems are capable of the strangest problems that are as bizarrely unique as the last guy who tinkered with it. Yeah they might start out built to code, but as the years go on...

Can you do one about the Arlene Kay that went down in 1993 in the Gulf of Mexico. Hillbert and Ryan Kiesel were supposedly battling a fire and were missing when the Coast Guard got there. I went to school with them so it's very interesting to me

Thank you for a well-produced and accurate docu.

Your style for these kinds of videos is great. I hope you make one or two on the Cougar Ace and the issues faced Salvaging it.

Was the rig down ,was the lazerette hatch open ??😮

In 30kt winds and the tide and waves running with her she may have come fast on the bottom ,being a bit top heavy she may have been dragged under in minutes 😢

I just read the report on the sinking of the fish boat Cap Rouge II off the mouth of the Fraser River near Richmond BC which lead to the loss of 3 crew and 2 of their children. I understand the role a leaky lazerette gasket played and a direct connection between the port and starboard fuel tanks allowing the free flow of oil from port to starboard. I had always thought it was a crew used to landing their cargo in a slat water port port didn't realize the loss of buoyancy heading to fresh water.

this is so real.🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈

I’m surprised that these boats don’t have a on board computer system that will warn you that the boat is too heavy or not balanced properly.

I’m new here but this has become one of my favorite channels. Every video is a logical and exhaustively researched presentation combined with outstanding storytelling. This is all alongside sensitivity and understanding for the people involved and their families. Brilliant work!

very thought-provoking video ty

I understand the investigation is ongoing but I have a really hard time believing this boat capsized, considering how she's sitting on the seafloor. Getting swamped and going down more or less vertically seems more reasonable.
They had the booms out too. Were they actively fishing, or are the booms cast out for other reasons? I imagine it's not possible to accidentally catch something that could drag the boat under, that'd probably break the net long before it overcomes the reserve buoyancy of the boat, but it's still a weird detail to me.
We'll have to see what the investigation turns up, since it's still ongoing.

I'd like to see a forensic audit of the owners financial situation and history of insurance claims.

I served in the USCG in Portland ME. Wonderful people up there. Such a shame.

An incompetent captain asleep at his post, and the crew incapacitated on drugs? On an already dubiously seaworthy vessel? Dang. That's one hell of a train wreck.

I've never lived near the sea, but I have worked at over 12 mines. Sea going communities and mining communities have a surprisingly large amount of things in common, because when things go wrong many people can suddenly get swallowed up.

In mining there is a stricter regulatory agency for safety that parallels MSHA but has tighter safety rules. Some companies stick to those rules to the letter, while others seem to get adept at hiding the issues instead.

Looking at what was acceptable for this boat to be on the water gives me the chills as far as safety and inspection goes. It's as though the safety precautions are seen as too expensive, such as what it would take to ensure better stability for the boat.

Some might disagree with me and say loudly that it is the risk you take and regulations are a burden. But, look at all of the resources expended after the disaster had occured. All of the search and rescue equipment and all of the expenditure, and the grief and the loss with these shipwrecks. It seems to me it is never an emergency or crucial until it is. And after it is too late to fix anything it is suddenly all hands on deck and everybody is suddenly motivated where they couldn't be bothered and were in the "can't" crowd beforehand.

In mining, this is why you see stories of mine fires, of mining explosions, or stories of collapses. The difference is that in mining it is usually the company that is immediately brought to blame, where in things on the sea, it is usually the captain of the ship or the crew that is blamed first, and never the investing parties or the ship's owners.

It also seems like what is acceptable as far as being seaworthy ... even to the untrained eye, is very lax. In mining the regulations are based on a "what if" approach. No, that electrical hazard isn't a problem today but what if... And then things are addressed. Those MSHA inspectors have one job: To find problems and document them, and then immediately levy fines for those safety violations. I think that the fishing and overall maritime industry has a structure that isn't like this. Perhaps it is the culture but if you think about it, mining operations and maritime operations are both expensive endeavors and just as dangerous.

This always comes back to "Does it cost more to replace it or repair it?" With Maritime industries it is almost always going to be an answer of "Neither repair nor replace as it is expensive, just hope she stays floating and pray." Perhaps mining pockets are just much deeper, and perhaps the fishing or shipping industries are just more dispersed with much smaller operators lending to this to just get by, and there are far too many players in the game and not enough inspectors and not enough money.

And all of this thought from somebody that has been land locked far inland and I have never been part of these industries. Thank you for reading all of this.

I’m a very new fisherman and almost bought the Sasha Lee 😅

As a Gloucester native, this tragedy hits hard

Its very clear that any form of shipping from fishing to cargo, is being plagued by crime. Matter of fact it was always like that since the first boat was ever made.