The Problems with PHEVs / A False Promise?

Co2 😂. Its called a poleshift. Megnetic field has dropped down to 20%. So more light (heat) enters earth. 80% drop in heat shielding. 😂. The real reason is we are running out of oil, rare minerals and food. You know food dropped by 14% globally sense 2010 the population is increaseing. The goverment lies to keep their pockets filled.

Can i use solar to offset the price of the battery or lack of batteries in the future? Yes. If no batteries are avaible you can just remove them and drop the excess weight. Use the engine

You missed an indepth point of the new EV game that is all the rage!! “ Charger Charger Where’s a WORKING Charger, and will I find a working one before my car dies?” Sub-game is: @Oh what will I do for the next 30-50–90-120 minutes while charging my EV?”

There’s government incentive to buy phev
I gotta look into that

I'm not sure why the EV-only range on US models is so low. I've seen 50 miles EV-only from an Outlander PHEV done on a very regular basis, without trying particularly hard.

I have RAV4 Prime XSE Premium. It is an engineering marvel. In the Summer I get 54 miles per charge, and a full charge takes about 2 1/2 hours. My community has free Level 2 chargers everywhere. I have zero regrets

Ok it's for sure, you are a Tesla adept. Your video is useless for European people.

just want to clarify about your video info: the Escape PHEV and the Rav4 Prime both also have liquid cooled batteries. I have the Escape PHEV and I disagree about your claim it "struggles under electric power"; I merge on the highway, pass on the highway, etc all on EV, and just fine. Also the Escape PHEV is lighter than almost all EVs and PHEVs; it's the perfect mix of efficiency; it kills in hybrid mode too. It's cause they didn't waste weight and power on AWD, which people have need to use like .0000001% of the time anyway. It weighs like 500 lbs lighter than the Rav4 Prime and Model Y. $40K for Escape and $3750 tax rebate = $36.5K, amazing. The Escape PHEV epa range is 37 miles, but I get 44+ miles range on mine all the time. ALSO, the Escape PHEV/Hybrid tech is basically really Toyota Hybrid tech; look up their history

I recently bought a new RAV4 Prime and the wait was about 1 month for the color I wanted (red), with black and blue ones available on the lot. Hopefully the wait time issue continues to get better.

Where I live charging an EV is often more expensive per mile than gassing up a normal non hybrid compact car, it depends on price fluctuations. I have settled on PHEV because I can take full advantage of free lvl 1 charging at work, and use gasoline for the rest of my driving whenever it's cheaper than kilowatts, whether the savings will be enough to justify the higher vehicle cost will depend on actual price fluctuations while I own the vehicle and how long I keep it. Even if it doesn't pay off it gives me some piece of mind that I have a little insulation against future energy price fluctuations.

Something to consider if you live in an area with expensive electricity.

The best part of owning a PHEV is, if it was a Heat Pump, it is "essentially" a dual fuel vehicle that can work in EV mode, hybrid mode, or with the battery depleted, full ICE mode. if you live in an area that is at risk of long electricity outages and/or don't want to be trapped to the ever changing gas prices, you can adjust to each scenario. yes, the battery ranges are low but they will improve as the battery tech improves. yes the charging rates are low, but for those that charge at home overnight it is a moot point. 12 hours at level 1 to charge? that works perfectly for me and I don't need to have an electrician install an upgraded plug in my garage.

My RAV4 Prime gets 38 mpg on average on hybrid only. I drive 15k miles a year. A regular RAV4 Hybrid gets 40 mpg. It could cost me $60 extra a year in gasoline to drive the R4P. When I drive in EV, my R4P is cheaper to use than a regular hybrid.

Yes the car is heavier, but it's design makes it better than a regular hybrid. It always has 302 HP, even if there are no EV miles left. EV only acceleration is 7.5 sec 0 to 60 mph, 6.0 sec in hybrid mode; way faster than a regular hybrid.
The only negative about a RAV4 Prime is that they are very hard to find to buy.
Have you ever driven one?

Besides the initial cost, the cost of replacing battery packs, the additional weight and complexity, and cost of troubleshooting (likely, intermittent) glitches after the warranty period expires, what's not to like? "Complexity is the enemy of reliability." Straight ICE's (relative-) simplicity wins, for me, and fuel economy be damned. I could, however, see owning a Tesla, except for their legendarily-poor quality control, dash layout, service difficulties and exorbitant repair costs.

I charge my PHEV at home and at work. I don't use gas during my work week. I usually fill up after 8000 kms, just because I want fresh gas. And that is usually when I change my oil. I filled up my tank 6 times last year. PHEV's work for some people with certain driving habits. Hybrids are still a great way to go for most.

Nice video pointing out strengths and weaknesses of PHEVs. One additional point: PHEVs contain both a full EV drivetrain and a full ICE drivetrain. They are the most complex vehicle design and complexity is bad for reliability and cost.

He said "clout of a Tesla"

Hybrid or PHV for me, but I will go for the Hybrid. I am shopping around for an RAV4 Hybrid base trim.

After 6 months of owning an Outlander PHEV, my average oil consumption is 1.7L/100 km. I have a very good and luxiorious ride experienced. I just plug it in my driveway overnight twice a week. I am happy with my purchased.

Is it me or is this dude getting more jacked in each video? Putting in the work at the gym!

So the biggest thing you missed is the average American drives 40miles a day. So even with the low range phev half on EV and then turns into a regular hybrid. This is why Nissan made the original Nissan leaf Ev as it only had a real range of 70 mile range but can still fit most peoples needs. Phev allowed you to have pros of both worlds. Ev range for the city and long range for the highway.

These guys should own EV before trash talking PHEV. It is a pain tonCharge as much as when there is a chance. Even 30% range ,you already want to charge again . In Summer lose 30 miles when only travel 15 miles. Then your battery degrade fast since charge whenever the chance available. And people don't know how to open EV doors. PHEV is the best. You can use all your EV range to zero. Tesla 50000 miles battery start to go down hill. 😅 . No more tesla back to toyota PHEV . Super responsive and smooth transition like lexus.

People that drive less 40 per day its perfect. Know what you're buying and what it can do. X5 50e people. I have the 45e and they fixed my only gripe and dude is definitely ranting. Tax credit was 7500 for any ev built here

I get 36 mpg in my X5 and fill it once every two weeks. Definitely worth it

Valid points ! Electric vehicles are not the save all !

One use case where PHEV makes the most sense is mobile office/worksite and camping, as well as backup power at your home in a power outage. The PHEV engine as an on-board generator means you have extended use of your HVAC and built-in inverter before you need to go find a charger (in the case of an EV) or a gas pump (in the case of a regular hybrid). It just lets you stay off-grid longer. It makes it probably the best "prepper" vehicle.

You have done a lot here. But, I cannot agree. I have a Kia CEED SW. Yes, I am in Europe... the place with very high fuel prices. I drive to work 5 days a week... 40 miles round trip. I drive set on EV.. and can drive electrically for 95+% of my trip. So, I am a very efficient EV each workday. On the weekends, I go shopping and do local things... always as an EV. I plug my vehicle into a standard wall socket every day. So, I have not seen a filling station in a long time. Sometimes, I go on a longer trip (100- 200 miles) and set the car on hybrid mode. Then I get about 4 - 5 liters / 100km ( about 50-60mpg with 4 people and other things on board). The overall effect is very fuel efficient and environmentally friendly.

Personally, I don't give a hoot! The Climate BS is just that. Mother Earth has been changing for millions of years before mankind ever set foot on it. So, how many vehicles were driving around 1,000 years ago? 10,000 years? The Hudson River froze over in the last 500 years. What caused that. A volcano. Shit happens, so live life and enjoy your time here. Stop being afraid of every doomsday scientist out there, especially Greta!😂😂😂😂😂

Thank you for bringing up that the best way to eliminate emissions from transportation is to completely rethink how we move around, build our cities ect. As an American, I feel like cars are so deeply ingrained in how we get around that we have a hard time reimagining a different built world. Great video too!

Great video. You deserve more clicks. I enjoy the car reviews but this is next level. You just reviewed an entire automotive trend with great depth and balance.

I'll take a self recharging hybrid any day over a plug in hybrid.

This is what you get from having both gas motor and electric motor. Double the hassle. Either do gas or full ev. The middle ground is garbage.

Best way to reduce the carbon foot print is not driving at all… 😅

Using 11 to 15 kw of battery in a plug in could be a better solution for the 4-5 cars instead of placing all of that battery in one vehicle. The BMW X5 50e and MB GLE 450e (w/dc fast charging capability) are attractive but albeit expensive.

I really tried to like PHEVs, I live in a metropolitan area so it should have been perfect for me. Bought a Jeep GC 4Xe and even though it was low EV miles it was plenty for daily driving where I didn’t need to use gas. Then the fuel oil refresh mode (FORM) hit which means the engine either needs new fuel to keep it fresh (approx 5 gal) or worse case the motor is forced to run. In my driving that’s months of use because I travel such short distances. So my PHEV became gas only after 3 months…sold it after 800 miles. After more research all PHEVS do this to protect the motor so nah, I’m good. Look up Jeep FORM and enjoy.

I disagree. I am european city driver. Yes, we here have completelly different scenario, rather than large America, but I drove mostly up to 15 miles per day, and if it is unlucky day, approx 50 or more time - in trafic. So If I vould have PHEV, I will use aropund 1-2l per 100 km, it is like hundreds miles per galon. As in trafic I would use pure electic mo0de, and when I would need to accelerate or go fast - ICE will help.

But time to tume I need to reavel 300+ miles, and it will give me super high fule efficienncy.

I started with a Volt, went to a Spark EV, and now have a Ford Maverick Hybrid. Where I live, I can access just about any type of store or food within a 20 mile radius. And at the time I had my Volt, I was working a job that was 5 miles away. I was in electric 95% of the time. I then started doing side gig delivery for Amazon, in which the gas engine was great to have. I still got great MPG when the battery was depleted. The Spark EV taught me through a series of traumatic lessons that a pure EV as my only vehicle is not, selfishly, viable for me. Pure EV's just simply are not for a large number of people, yet. The Maverick Hybrid has been great, yes, I wish I had more electric range, but hybrid system is great about utilizing electric only mode. Plus, having learned all of the tips and tricks from my Volt and Spark, I can really max out the electric range and MPG. I really think there's a place for all of them, caveat being the PHEV should be something with like 40+ miles of electric only range, with good to excellent MPG on gas, being of moderate price and utility. Great video!! You have really great insights.

It's hard to find what seems to be objective criticism of ev's from car channels but I thought this was fair and I mostly agree. Would be interested in you expanding on your last point regarding the Tesla model x vs Honda Pilot. Why does distance traveled mattter with regard to environmental impact?

And I am glad that I will buy a fully loaded 2023 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV.

AND I WILL BUY A FULLY LOADED 2023 OUTLANDER PHEV ANYWAY!

Added weight no upside of the EV powertrain as it is comprised in a PHEV. Still has the complexity of an ICE. Add to that transition from EV to ICE for some manufacturers is clunky. And then you're still filling your tank. I would rather have an efficient ICE or EV.

That 2023 Toyota Tundra I’m now driving? It replaced a 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe, which I drove for only six months. The Tundra is a V6 twin turbo, and I am getting far better gas mileage with it: 18mpg for the Jeep, and 23mpg+ with the Tundra (I’m not even exaggerating.) More than the MPG, I switched because the Jeep relies so much on the electric motors that the ICE is under-powered. In city driving when you’re out of juice, the Jeep’s 4 cylinders sound like a Cessna on takeoff.

Your entitled to your opinion no 1 likes a debbie downer

Say, if you always drive less than the EV-only distance and never use the gas, what would happen to the old gas and the gas engine itself? No one talks about this possible problem.

So an EV is only 4% less carbon emitting than an average ICE vehicle? Get a higher MPG ICE vehicle like a Civic or Corolla and an EV is worse then.

Looking into the rav 4 hybrid is really opening me up to the world of battery powered vehicles (I call them RC cars) sounds like the battery car industry is still pretty rudimentary 😬 great video 👍🏾

in north america 50% + of the population has access to charging at home. If you dont, dont buy phev . I am perfect candidate for phev since my trips are usually no more than 20 miles. some are 60 but thats 1 a week and still could be done w/o gas or very little of it. sometimes i need to do 150-200 miles in a day but thats not often, maybe 8-10 times a year. I also tow a 2000 lb boat, short distance mostly but sometimes 100 miles . I live in a climate where temps are below 32f for 4 months of the year , much lower for 3 out of the 4 . not good for ev range. in the summer its not uncommon to have many days at 85 f again killing ev range as it would be previously mentioned towing. EV that would serve most but not all of my needs would cost me 20 k more vs phev. so there is room for phevs. every type of propulsion is a compromise of some sort, ev being the biggest. the problem in current world are the governments picking winners and losers subsidizing one side while penalizing the other. consumer is the loser here with less choice and higher cost. we are one car household and if we got an ev we wouldnt be able to maintain our lifestyle and fulfill some basic needs, having a second car would defeat a purpose of saving money and environment.

All designs have compromises and and sweet spot. The PHEV are not the sweet spot, unless it is put on the table the tax reductions to reduce the carbon foot print. However, and unfortunately, the PHEVs do not translate in real reduction in in the carbon foot print. They are heavier, stress more the ICE, the tires and the roads, etc…

I have a geometry problem with plug ins. I live at the top of a hill and would have no trouble with recharging overnight. But the commute to work means dropping down the 600 ft elevation change while the battery is mostly full. There is no place for the energy capture to go. Then the drive home is the climb and would drain the battery. If it was reversed and the drive home was the downhill part I might do very well with a plug in.

Just one thing you missed. The stress of owning an electric vehicle and having to worry about finding a place to recharge. Having to drive with A/C turned off so you can make it to a charging location.