The Logistics of Firefighting

I'm always happy to hear about systems that work.

That Bronx Apartment Fire is really unfortunate but all information points to poor maintenance and negligent building owners. Both the Fire Fighters and the Fire Fighting System did the best it could. Respect for Fire Fighters.

it’s incredible how simple yet complicated putting a fire out is

Just to state the obvious, there's too many fire stations and firefighters in the USA, especially if you use smoke detectors and pressurized water automatic fire extinguishers.

20 plus year Firefighter here. This is a very good video! Accurate and interesting. Thank you very much for making it. ❤ 🚒 🧑🏾‍🚒

That's not what inflammable means! Lol

I work as a dispatcher and I’m so blown away by how well put-together this is. You can tell so much work and research was put into this. I’ve followed this channel for years and haven’t seen any videos like this

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Sam, I don't know who wrote that but as a firefighter of almost 30 years, I can say it was the best short explanation of how firefighting works I have ever heard. I would not at all be surprised to find it used at fire academies as the first thing on the first day of a new intake's course. Very well done to whoever both wrote and researched this.

So the dude that started that NY fire also didn’t close his door to contain it. Fucking mope

Luke chapter 15 v 7 v 10 KJV
I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.
v 10 Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of GOD over one sinner that repenteth.
John chapter 3 v 16
For GOD so loved the world, that HE gave HIS only begotten SON, that whosoever believeth in HIM should not perish, but have everlasting life.

This makes me scared to death of living in a high rise.

Thats amazing this came out today! I literally just finished my FF certs and completed my Burns today great video

Great to see crossover between Wendover and @southmetrofirerescuepio in this video. Two high quality informative channels

Bro as a ff myself you did really good not saying anything stupid like a lot of non ffs would. Appreciate the time you put into getting your shit right!

fires are becoming insanely more dangerous decade after decade. Your really comfy mattress? That burns at 3,000°F. You’re fake plastic Christmas tree? Fully engulfed in 6 seconds. I, and us as firefighters, beg and urge people to realize that the shit you use in your house is INSANELY flammable. Yes, fires take a long time to bring a building down, and it doesn’t happen often anymore. But when we go into a burning building, our PPE doesn’t even do much anymore. We still get burnt ears and a cool abraded neck for a week or two. Stay safe yall. Please understand fire is very complex. Always shut your doors. ❤️🤍

for those who found this video interesting and would like to help their community, I strongly urge you to consider volunteering with your local fire department. Over 65% of firefighters in the US are volunteers, and many local departments are massively understaffed. I recommend checking if you are eligible to join your local department and seeing if it's right for you 🚒. Great video again, Wendover, and I can't wait for the next one!

yes, tell people to stay in their apartment right up until the fire is already outside their door and has trapped them inside, that'll make it easier to find their bodies afterwards and will lower the population too, a brilliant idea

Who here wanted to be a firefighter when they were little? I used to think of them as SuperHeros growing up.😇

Um, why is the voice the exact same as Half As Interesting's channel voice?

FDNY don't call alarms over five now for some reason. Just extra units over the top.

Very well done video!

Do one on EMS in the future!

Not sure if it’s just your ad read, but “push CNN to the left”? Come on, you’re smarter than that. CNN is no bastion of leftist partisanship.

My dyslexic ass read "fire lighting" and was looking for tips about effective arson 😭

Thanks

Me learning a fire engine and fire truck are two different vehicles. 👁👄👁

Compartmenting all apartments in a building is one of these things that works perfectly in theory, but in the real world has too many ways to go wrong. Whether it's penny pinching on the work itself, or on maintaining it. Or adding something to the building on the cheap that nullifies the effect of the compartments, such as the cladding on Grenfell. Or just something as simple as doors not closing. It's a fine idea but it can't account for real life factors.

Ever since Grenfell I have decided I will never live on a floor higher than a fire department ladder can reach. And I'm leaving immediately the alarm goes off, assuming it's safe in the stairwells. Many people died at Grenfell who could have lived if they'd ignored the advice to stay in their flats and had left at once.

As a member of the German THW (German Federal Agency for Technical Relief (civil and catastrophe protection), mostly volunteers), I think the video is amazing. Even if the German fire department and generally the default at such senarios works a little differently, the goal of saving people is the same everywhere.

Compartmentation is fundamentally evil. You cannot be safer in a building with a fire than outside of it. That's not how being outside works.

Bouta go to fire school practicals in 20 mins

Missed an opportunity to mention planes

It's incredible to see the level of coordination and organization that goes into fighting a fire of this magnitude. The Incident Command System and the collaboration between different agencies are crucial in ensuring an effective response. Kudos to all the firefighters and emergency personnel who work tirelessly to keep us safe.

Logistics! Illiminate the Oxygen! Duh!

Hi, good video (as normal from your channel) but (you don't need to do a video about it but I think, just on a personal level, you (TBF, anyone worried about fire in a high rise residential building) I would recommend checking out any of the many deap dives on the 'Grefnell Tower' fire in the UK...

The original building was built in the 70's, following the same guidelines as the (USA) building codes - fire detection, compartementalisation, fire resistant core (housing the lifts/elevators) allowing safe egress and (what we call - I don't know what they're called in the US - 'Dry Risers' - pipework the fire department hook into to push water or any other fire fighting liquid to the floor needed).

In this incident the residents had been complaining for years that the alarm system was not fit for purpose (it didn't detect actual smoke/fires in flats/apartments, instead triggering on false alarms (steam from showers being an example).

The building was owned and managed by the local council (the local council being a bit like a state's government - just on a smaller scale. Council's are the local 'government' that manages all 'local' needs, things like education, waste collection, police, fire, etc services (our NHS / ambulance services are still split up into 'trusts' by area but are seperate from the council), social housing (which is what Grefnell Tower was), scocial services (everything from unemployment to old age care and everything in between).

Sorry for explaining a lot (purely anecdotal) but people in the USA might not understand what our local council's are or what they do. They probably won't know that over the last decade plus the government has been pushing more responsibilities on them while also cutting funding...

The Grefnell Tower was originally built during the UK's 'brutalist' phase. Just about any building built by the government/councils during this time (mid-late 70's), as well as a lot of independent projects followed this style.

It's kind of complicated but the local council who managed Grefnell Tower were 'pushed' into renovating the (and the surrounding) buildings.

(I don't know if anyone has gone to prison over it) but between the contractors and the council everything on the 'revamp' was to the lowest bid.

This is all back story as to why a malfunctioning fridge in a flat/apartment on the 4th floor caused a fire that engulfed the building leading to over 81 deaths.

The bit that you didn't include in your video is when the people responsible for ensuring buildings are safe are the same people renovating buildings and making them unsafe...

If it can happen over here, I'm sure with all your lobbying, etc it could happen to you too...

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Ryan started the fire🔥🔥🔥

Watched the entire video and I’m still not really sure what it’s telling me…

This was great, and I'd be super interested in a companion video going more into the history of fire response. My papa was an engineer with the fire marshal's office and occasionally responded to more complicated scenes. Comparing his stories to this video, it sounds like an important improvement has been to the training of the firefighters themselves - in his day they didn't have to know much about the science behind what they did, which lead to the kind of situations that are only funny because luckily no one died.

only legends know the original title

Informative video Sam. It is amazing how you have the different names for the appliances but even in Australia, we vary from State to State.

I wish this video was twice as long 😁

"Station 51. Structure fire, with injuries. 2193 Valley Road. 2193 Valley Road. Cross street, Oak Avenue. Time out, 1451."

"Station 51, KMG 365."

Why did the title change from "how to beat a large fire" to logistics of firefighting?

my one problem he made engine feel less important then the ladder, yes truck crews typically pull people out the best was to save lives lies within the engine and the most basic of tools the hose line. Many ladders also can put out fire them selves some to carry pumps and water but many will need an engine to lay into it for it to gain offensive capabilities. My town has a tower with a pump and a ladder without. Engine also cary water to start fighting a fire but will need to hit and hydrant or tanker task force to remain supplied. Engines need truck companies to support them through roof operations, and truck companies need engines to fight the fire, it is a cadence and a dance started that has many moving parts that happen in rapid section and really on one another. Not to mention some volunteer department will have engines acting as truck companies, being a primary search team it comes down to how's there type of building resources, and skill sets as many will have many experienced guys through out and some will weaker companies.

As a career firefighter in New Jersey, this is an excellent and thorough documentary. Thank you, Wendover.

This could have crossed over with 'Fascinating Horror'.

So why American fire trucks are so old looking?

As a volunteer firefighter, this video was absolutely bang on. Great job capturing everything we do. Tons of information and lots of research was obviously done.

i love logistics