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Thresh is not ROI? No way
ОтветитьBard deserves his own tier, bard is bard and simply calling him a roaming support doesn't do him justice
ОтветитьAs some dude with a door as shield once said... "brundistil" or something like that idk
Ответитьlux is my main is it competetive ?
ОтветитьBlind/First pick recommends?
ОтветитьWhy no pyke and thresh in roi ?
ОтветитьWhat about Hwei Support?
ОтветитьI, as the #4 ranked sona in NA right now take offense to this video. Jk keep up the great work dude
ОтветитьI think anivia can support well
Ответитьi actually dont think landing a morgana q is all that useful in teamfights. id consider her a counter pick champ. also im shocked janna isnt in the disengage tier but i guess she did just get reworked
ОтветитьSona is really bad and mana hungry in the early Game, but is a monster of the late game, she is the support wich scale the most at late game and have a huge impact with barely no CD, the only support that is that good too at late game is Lulu.
Sona rarely is mained, bc frustration and lack of patience, but i must say if you main Sona and master her, she can sky rocket any player.
Sona is balanced to high elo.
Amazing video...ive been playing for almost 2 years and still dont have a main lol so videos like this help
ОтветитьWhat about Ivern support? I see him very rarely but seems pretty decent.
ОтветитьIf I get filled support I play mundo and poke people out of lane with his totally balanced q (bot lane can't sustain the dmg mode of the time unlike tops). His passive has a hidden part called no u. This has a 25% chance to make a pyke (or other dive hook champs) rage quit if u block the cc with ur MANLY BODY.
Mundo is very good with mf since her slow makes ur q unavoidable.
+ every other champ u normally face bot has mana costs. You don't :)
One Champion that has the potential to be a support and was played as a support in the past, which you are missing here, is Illaoi. In laning phase she pretty much only wants to land an E, to force the enemy back, having your adc being able to damage the enemy from a safe distance is quite nice. I wouldn't play her right now, but if you are including Ekko and Rumble in the "We play for 2v2" category, I would add her as well.
Ответитьthank you, a really good video :) i am still new to LolL and videos like this help :) where would you put camille support?
ОтветитьI'd classify Shaco as great for counterpicks. His boxes offer more distruption than most engage supports are equiped to deal with while ranged picks tend to make Shaco struggle. AP Shaco is actually not bad to play from behind since punishing aggression is precisely what he excels at and as long as you can get at least liandry, your damage is relevant. Still sucks against comps that don't dive in.
That, of course, unless we're talking about AD support Shaco, who gets Hail of Blades, go Q at level 1 and all in right away with ignite and exhaust. If we're talking about that style, then yes, I can see the classification, but that's the less common style.
Love the video ! I have been picking kinda troll picks that could work if you really good with the champ like Riven Xin zhao Garen. Ezreal is hard
ОтветитьVery good video, I really enjoyed watching it, Lulu's polymorph can be countered by the wall of Yasuo, Samira, etc., because it shoots a kind of projectile, greetings!
ОтветитьI'm not sure if I would put Soraka in the "Buff a carry" tier? Her abilities don't even offer a buff to her allies at all... but where else could we put her, really
Ответитьin what universe are lulu and naut are highest roi since they are stupid easy, but thresh and bared aren't wtf is this tier list
ОтветитьAmazing video as usual. But isn't anti dive for teamfights just an alternative form of disengage? Since there are only 3 champs in the former tier, I think they should be grouped together.
ОтветитьI know it's a weird one but I love playing Tank/Enchanter Zyra support. Your plants do damage mostly based on your level, so you still do a decent amount, but you open up the options to Flash forward to engage and not be blown up immediately, bait (because who thinks Zyra can survive anything?) and you peel really, really well. Locket or Radiant Virtue as a mythic (not sure how the buulds go next season) and then either slow with Rylai's, Frozen Heart against champs with a lot of AA reliance, even more bait with Gargoyle's, Zeke's is cool and so much more. Runes can vary a lot, but having Guardian and item cooldown is my favorite. Got to Master with it last season and hovering Master this season. Super fun, very surprising. Biggest downside is your team has no clue what's happening and spam emote thimbs up when you save them with Locket.
I dont recommend it over standard Zyra because it's the type of thing where you can go outside the box only after you filled the initial box. If Zyra gets to live, it's a much more fun character for me.
Final note:
This playstyle is impossible against Twitch adc. He just kills you no matter how tanky you are, so your role as Zyra is to blow him up, not slow him down. I always ban that rat if Zac is already out 😎
Very good video as always man
ОтветитьReally loved this series. Thank you for giving us your huge experience of the game for free and with so much details. I find your sayings and explanations of my mains to be hoghly accurate. Kai'sa, Senna, Garen, Diana, Vi, Yone, Morgana. All that you've said about them is 100% true. You're pretty smart man, im following your content from now on!
ОтветитьI am gonna give you my 2 cent on some champ that i played
Teemo
I mean, i see teemo more on the great for counterpick, if the enemy team has at least 2 AA based champ with a build where you can spam the blind you can always counter one target without putting yourself at risk on doing that on the enemy adc (if you find a safe angle good but it's not always possible to do that as teemo), but on top of that, the enemy supp has to be not a poke one that does not rely on AA, he is strong bc he can neutralize the damage of the only dps in the botlane, if there is another one that can outpoke him he will not be able to do his job early (he is also one of the few champs that can make the enemy miss cannons). Also, it is true that with the sweeper his mushrooms are no longer a threat but in the lane you will still be able to make every gank useless and have easy control of the bushes, teemo can also avoid slowpush thanks to mushrooms placed on the lane in which the opponents set in motion (as well as helping in general in vision control) and having AoE a mushroom in the middle the teamfight can still inflict AoE slow & anti-heal and also a champion capable of working with a build that is not necessarily expensive, i love teemo but he is not in my top 5
Chogath
I can say he is very strong, nobody expect the amount of damage (100% Ap scaling on Q, he can execute enemy champs, % health damage), utility (He can help on dragons etc with R) and cc (Q, silence, slow, what more do you want) he can dish
Nasus
For me he is a tanky version of chogath, while cho wants just to stay away and spam cc and damage everywhere until he can close the distance to use E and R, Nasus wants to be in the teamfight, soking damage with his R while also burning and debuffing everything to death, it's pretty fun ngl, that huge space will become a real of burn,slow,anti-heal and armor debuff and the Wither it's also a cool ability to have on a support but having one whole ability wasted it's pretty sad but mid, if you use him mid you can build AP AND get stacks, i prefer to him in the category teemo is in
Jarvan (Diana)
I used him lethality and i was able to oneshot, he has a clear gameplan with the poke early and then engage to kill, (no aery, first strike all the way, it's why i was able to oneshot and gain the gold to get the powerspikes i needed) i still do not suggest to use him this way or as a pure supp, lethality is not consistent and is risky while pure support is just not worth it, i also used Diana with the same style, AP assassin with first strike and i don't know how, she did better then him in the winrate XD but still not a pick i would suggest
Miss Fortune
What can i say, i love it, she is one of my fav picks even tho she can't offer much, she is in my top 5
Ezreal
No man, don't use him, AP, mix, AD, i used him in all kinda of possible ways, just don't.
Orianna
Another fav picks on my list, with hell of blade she can poke pretty hard in lane with her passive (you know what they say, every auto count), spamming W with shurelya feels so f good, max E for extra stats and bigger shields to trade in lane with your autos and protect the carry, the R, oh man the R, i just love this champ, in my top 5
i will talk at the end of Seraphine.
Shaco
Holy f. When i played AP shaco i just destroyed every game i was in, why this champ it's till in game? He is in my top 5 but i swear, i will never use it again, jesus. He is so broken i feel bad while i use it.
Now let's talk about the ones you missed
Bro where the f is Belveth? She is crazy strong, one of the best if not the best lv1 for starting a fight and harass with pta, she can spam cc, has dmg red, still a form has lategame scale, just by having her in the team you have a stronger win con on baron, a solid build path even if it's not the usual one but...as you know, they nerfed her to the ground BUT i kept pushing with her and i found a way to still feel the power, just don't get R until later. Yeah call me crazy but listen, you need to max asap W and E, they are key for your gameplan, you wanna spam that cc in combination with a high AH build, you wanna be able to absorb the most damage possbile and lower the cd to be able to use it at least 2 times in a long teamfight. Get also a Glave first item, you need damage early on Glave can provide that but also AH and vision control, then evens. and then black cleaver with AH boots and gets all the runes that can give you AH. With boots, Glave and Even you will be at a whooping 73 AH and every major component of black clever will give you 10 more, even with one 83 AH can make you start spamming Q and use E 2 times in a fight (both maxed), if you love her in this position i can say that she still work, stick into your lane, don't even think to go on a herald and don't R, it's not consistent, her real power it's in the rest of her kit, max first W and E, always, she is in my top 5
Where is Anivia? She is pretty solid but you need to use very well the wall, it's a champ like bard, a wrong wall can ruin a teamfight but cc and damage, she has it
Cait/kaisa
i mean, cait can poke and she can go letality but x2 adc in the botlane unless the kit it's more utility oriented (like ashe)...i do not suggest it. Same with Ap Kaisa, fun to snipe around but not really that good
Elise
Ok, she has alot, and i mean, a lot of problems. Mana hungry, has parts of the kit that are in conflict with each other (you are an assassin but in the supp role you can't get the gold to be really one, Diana and Jarvan are exeptions with first strike, they can all in with big damage and get alot of money this way with first strike, Elise can't do this) but also has a pretty good poke tool in the form of human form W and has long CD on key spells, how do we solve all of this? I found myself rushing liandry, Mana? good, AH? good (with AH boots), Poke? good, AP? good. Using her as a poke/utility champ it's safer then try to use her as the jun she is meant to be. Afther that rush Rylai and Mandate, max W, it's both your poke tool and fight tool in spider form, take Glacial Augument, why? bc this way you can just put one point in E and leave it this way while you max W, Elise has a strong cc but if she max that, she lose so much damage (Q it's not that good to use for poke) but by taking glacial you actually don't really care if they are cc for less time, when the cc it's over they will still be in the ice field and that can also hit other champs. She can move around pretty well but i don't think that ganking other lanes it's good, if you miss the stun the gank it's over, better to stick in your lane and help the adc, she can do a perfect leash and in big teamfights she can stay safe at distance poking and using her cc until one enemy it's low, she then can join in spider form, Yeet out if the other ones start focusing you, return to human and start all over again, no sense in do close combat if the enemy it's full hp, her Q in spider form it's stronger if they are low, your cc and poke can help to do that. Don't go tank with her, you will not be able to pressure the lane and you will lose, many will say that she has a zonya in the kit, i can say this is not true, every time you use it bc you f up, you are prob dead. You can outplay for sure if you are in control of the the positions and the moments when you wanna use it but in any other case, don't pray that your supp will save you, you are the supp. Sure, you can still outplay sometimes here and there with it but i think it's pretty overrated, who knows how to play around it will not let you troll theme with ease
AP Kog'Maw
Very risky but he can do damage and has some utility. With Rilay you can have an easy time to hit many R afther the first, in lane you can do decent poke both with your auto range and the E and the slow on it it's nice, the armor/magic debuff it's also cool to hit the enemy frontline, if you don't like Vel/Xerath give it a try, just know that you will explode you even if the stare at you, literally lol
Malzahar
Just don't, don't let me talk about it lol.
Ornn/Kayle
They need to gets level asap, they can't really work there
Sejuani
She can work there but nothing special to say
Skarner
He is pretty solid and a very good supp in my opinion but...i am not gonna waste your time, he is going to get reworked so until then, all the things you will do on this champ it's a giant (?) we don't know how much his game will change afther
Taliya
ah, my beloved, why she is not there? She is in my top 5 and she has very high burst damage, she can roam, she can poke, she has utility, you can 100% use her in this role
and now, i can talk about Seraphine. If you use her mid/adc and if you build dmg on her, you are wasting your life on the rift. Go all out on AH to spam heals and shields and if there are at least 2 mega fed champs on the opposite side or 1 mega raid boss you will stat check every single f fight. The amount of damage she can mitigate it's just insane. AH boots, Moonstone, Chemtech purtrifer, AH runes and Watchfoul wardstone, you are online and your team really need to be rotten potatos to lose a teamfight, just be srue to spam the buffed shield every time and stay safe. You can leave the stone as it is and rush Redemption, at that point YOU will be a raid boss, i really don't wanna say it but she deserve to be in my top 5
Thank you for the video. Brand new to League and a support main here. Thus far Milio and I are like this🤞🏾
ОтветитьJust tried nasus supp, pretty strong
ОтветитьVision score segment;
Umbral Glaive users with zombie ward; Pyke, Senna, Ashe, AD shaco. (off meta Kalista)
Fiddlesticks with effigies
i havntt watched the full video yet so if hes in here and iv been blind apologies but i used to one trick ksante and as a support hes surprisingly good the slows and cc make it very hard for the adc to play (to clarify i one tricked him toplane and played him when i got filled)
ОтветитьAs supp main I would say that this tier list is the most senseless thing I've ever seen. Gl to these people who go and play lulu after that and get destroyed by pretty much everything - Zyra poke, good Soraka/Nami player poke, Pyke and Nautilus poke and ofc Senna. And talking about zyra as being good if not behind is describing like every mage
ОтветитьPyke is alright as a roaming support. I'd argue best as a roamer but depends on if your adc just wants to farm please or is down to make numbers happen.
Oddly enough Ivern works similar to bard as a roaming support.
Non trad poke cc is an odd one.
Pretty much any artillery mage, Lux, Caitlyn. Have range and CC.
Ngl im not convinced by stuff like lulu being so strong and sona being called so weak. Sona has some of the highest winrate in high elo support, on the other hand lulu is absolute garbage in terms of solo q at most elos at the moment, being at sub 50% wr, and only works if the carry is auto attack attack speed based champ
ОтветитьI would expect Nautilus and Thresh to be swapped
ОтветитьImo Yuumi's placeent is spot on. She kinda has to rely on how good your carry is at the game, you kinda just sit and watch the game go by and maybe have to press a button every couple minutes
ОтветитьThis aint none of the normal S A B C trash tier i was expecting man, as a generally nub player this gave me so much info on what supports do what and what to pick against others. Amazing video :D
ОтветитьI think is funny how Blitz is the most banned support 😂 I mean i also ban him but not because he is strong by any means but because having to constantly think about the hook is so annoying to me LOL the moment I don't concentrate I'm already on top of their team 😂
Ответитьmissing camille with hail of blades
ОтветитьSinged support?
ОтветитьOh my days finally someone that doesn't just do a basic tier list video and call it a day. Thank you, I've been looking for something like this for ages now
ОтветитьOrnn?
ОтветитьLulu is too fun. Her hidden passive is to make the enemy bot lane mald every time they become a cupcake.
ОтветитьFinally thanks bro!
ОтветитьAs a long time support main I'm happy to see the 2 champs I settled with are the 2 champs in highest ROI. I loved these lists so much!!! Seriously appreciate these amazing vids <3
ОтветитьFor as long as I can remember Sona has always been an extremely squishy and weak character in early game. I always thought based on her kit that she was supposed to be an early game Lane bully that scaled into a really good enchanter. But it's never really worked out that way. I can't tell if the character was never supposed to have that Identity and i assumed wrong or it was but it was deemed too strong so now she's a canon minion.
ОтветитьInteresting that Thresh isn't where Nautilus is. Maybe Taliyah is missing.
ОтветитьFinally, the guide for all the femboys and twinks in the community
ОтветитьBeen a pleasure following this series with you, thanks for the content man!
ОтветитьGoat content.
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