8088 & 8086 CPUs... Why 16 bit Came Before 8 bit [Byte Size] | Nostalgia Nerd

8088 & 8086 CPUs... Why 16 bit Came Before 8 bit [Byte Size] | Nostalgia Nerd

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@DosGamerMan
@DosGamerMan - 26.05.2023 18:06

Shiny

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@chawansurya2154
@chawansurya2154 - 17.05.2023 12:47

Ok ok

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@dotslashsatan
@dotslashsatan - 03.02.2023 18:06

Shame the 8088 didn’t get released with 8 KHz, 8 bit bus, 8 bytes ram with 8 byte flash with 8 byte eeprom with 8 instructions in 1988

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@hashirscam
@hashirscam - 06.11.2022 16:44

Finally, found the answer! Thankyou!

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@Romanon26
@Romanon26 - 01.11.2022 09:29

Short answer: price. Thanks for watching ;)

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@asy.syahadatain
@asy.syahadatain - 29.07.2022 02:36

21k
The rest floating point

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@asy.syahadatain
@asy.syahadatain - 29.07.2022 02:36

4km
Minimal integer adalah 8 bit

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@Dr_Mario2007
@Dr_Mario2007 - 18.06.2022 05:34

8008, 8080 and 8085 were all 8-bit processors from Intel, with the 8086 being Intel's first 16-bit processor (and therefore the beginning of the popular x86 microarchitecture that we still use today), and also the 8088 is actually a 16-bit CPU, but gelded in order to make it cheaper to build the computer (16-bit circuits required extra DIP chips to form the Northbridge and Southbridge circuitry on the motherboard - long before both Northbridge and Southbridge become integrated, on a single die for each components - nowadays, the Northbridge circuitry is integrated on the CPU die or implemented as a separate Northbridge die in recent Ryzen CPUs), so the cost was also a factor for IBM as they were trying to enter the home PC business back in the day.

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@Rouxenator
@Rouxenator - 04.06.2022 00:19

Excellent video 6 years later.

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@Ayrshore
@Ayrshore - 24.09.2021 02:08

So basically, a 1970s Cyrix 586. Or, a 1970s Road Apple.

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@stephenjacks8196
@stephenjacks8196 - 23.08.2021 23:06

Umm ... the 8088 was an an upgrade path offered to 8085 system users. The IBM PC precursor used the 8085 so the first IBM PC was an upgraded existing design. Note the PC 8-bit card slots are same as for IBM earlier 8085 offering.

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@JouvaMoufette
@JouvaMoufette - 18.08.2021 03:52

Take a drink every time the word "eight" is said

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@ci3219
@ci3219 - 16.07.2021 02:47

Anyone else hates it when they call it "the eight oh eight six" - when those authentically from the 80's knew it as the "eighty eighty-six"?

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@amzonfire6013
@amzonfire6013 - 20.06.2021 06:22

I disagree... the 8 bit 8085 came long before the 16 bit 8086.

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@thorham1346
@thorham1346 - 16.06.2021 14:00

He's doing it on purpose.

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@lucysluckyday
@lucysluckyday - 11.06.2021 13:20

The 8088 seems similar to the 6809, though it was the 6502 that diverted me from the 4004 and 8008, although I couldn't avoid the 68000.

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@Simcore999
@Simcore999 - 27.05.2021 21:03

So, it s really an 80816

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@Decco6306
@Decco6306 - 09.05.2021 02:40

can i have a link to that video that you posted at the tintro of the vid? where he talkes about the datapaths and clocks

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@Corsa15DT
@Corsa15DT - 24.04.2021 12:14

you should do benchmark on both cpus

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@scottsullivan234
@scottsullivan234 - 23.04.2021 09:23

Yes, same number of transistors between 8088 and 8086, but the 8088 can address only 64KB of RAM. The 8086 up to 1MB.

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@fritsfelix8423
@fritsfelix8423 - 18.04.2021 19:25

A friend of mine kept saying the 8088 was newer and thus faster than the 8086, until I referred him to this video.

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@lilyscarlet2584
@lilyscarlet2584 - 27.03.2021 07:29

the 8086 had a 20 bit address bus actually and used segment registers to store the base segment and an offset from that base segment.

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@xnetpc
@xnetpc - 31.01.2021 09:25

It seems like they could have made a single CPU, that depending on the availability of data paths, could process either 8 bits or 16 bits data.

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@4691nn
@4691nn - 12.01.2021 01:51

ممكن بالعربي كيف

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@rafaelveggi
@rafaelveggi - 10.01.2021 03:43

...but every time he says "eight" you drink

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@amalirfan
@amalirfan - 26.12.2020 22:24

wow, that alot of 808s in 3 minutes ;)

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@handlesrtwitterdontbelivethem
@handlesrtwitterdontbelivethem - 03.12.2020 18:31

die is a death word it should be dye

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@typingcat
@typingcat - 11.10.2020 00:44

So many eights...

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@dejanpopovic7903
@dejanpopovic7903 - 10.10.2020 15:05

So what they are saying is that the 8086 was way ahead of its time, by two years infact.

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@looneyburgmusic
@looneyburgmusic - 01.10.2020 07:49

As much as I love watching your videos, (really brings me back to the late 70's into the 80's, when I used a lot of the computer gear you've talked about), hearing you say "Eight-Eight-xx-xx" over and over again almost made me punch my $1100 38inch monitor. Please, going forward, don't do that again, "Eighty-Eight-xx-xx" works so much better, and doesn't make the watcher want to cut their own wrists after the first 30-seconds ;-)

Cheers!

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@multimood
@multimood - 07.09.2020 03:14

the 8088 was used in the IBM PC and XT, the 20286 was used in the AT, I read that the 8086 didn't come out until the lower PS\2 models, these coming after the AT

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@dfbess
@dfbess - 23.08.2020 04:21

My first time on a pc.. was an 8088

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@lloydtshare
@lloydtshare - 21.08.2020 15:37

Our computers are so junky, imagine if your brain has 16 or 8bit bus memory

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@MatthewHendrickson
@MatthewHendrickson - 15.08.2020 18:13

Are there any chips that still have 8088 compatibility like the x86 line has?

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@iggytse
@iggytse - 13.08.2020 15:56

That explains the difference between an IBM compatible XT and a 286 AT.

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@jaybrown6350
@jaybrown6350 - 12.08.2020 05:48

The reason stated in the video for the 8088 is incorrect. The 8088 was a custom concession to IBM. The support chips were not ready for the 8086 at the time that IBM was designing the IBM PC so Intel modified the 8086 to be the chip vendor for the IBM PC.

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@nicolasjonasson4820
@nicolasjonasson4820 - 12.08.2020 00:19

Isn't the "visualisation" of 16 bits vs 8 bits missleading? Its shown as twice the size, but it is infact 256 times the size.

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@billkaroly
@billkaroly - 10.08.2020 08:31

Ah but what about the 8008?

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@TheManolis1984
@TheManolis1984 - 09.08.2020 13:05

I had an 8086. No hard drive, 5.25" floppy disc, CGA display

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@chanhguo1734
@chanhguo1734 - 09.08.2020 08:24

My first computer IBM PC XT. Intel 8088, DOS 1.1

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@PearComputingDevices
@PearComputingDevices - 08.08.2020 06:57

They used this same trick with the 386sx to save money and reuse 286 motherboards. Basically put a 32-bit cpu on a 16-bit bus. OEMs loved it because they could advertise a system as being a 386, yet re-use the stock from the 286 machines and thus saving money.

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@justsomeperson5110
@justsomeperson5110 - 06.08.2020 16:39

Oh ye gods! The success of the 8088 for Intel was inversely proportional to the experience of the consumers. This step backward for pricing purposes was such a painful performance loss. My first PC, a Tandy no less, with its amazing Tandy color and sound, should have been stunning for the time ... if not for this noticeable performance loss from the 8088. It was not a smart pairing. So most of my gaming continued to be on the C=64. LOL

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@danthompsett2894
@danthompsett2894 - 02.08.2020 01:51

how come they never made an anniversary 8088 800Mhz 8bit like the i7 8086K cpu lol

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@ducksonplays4190
@ducksonplays4190 - 23.07.2020 17:35

The 8086s die was sideways :/

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@Kerveros1904
@Kerveros1904 - 05.07.2020 18:28

eight o eight eight, eight o eight eight,eight o eight eight,eight o eight eight,eight o eight eight,eight o eight eight,

i am having nightmares, with big and tall eights, chasing me to push me in their narrow door so narrow that i will not be able to breathe properly an die from asphyxiation.

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@PauloConstantino167
@PauloConstantino167 - 22.02.2020 19:21

ever heard of 8080 ? 8085 ? Dummy.

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@Aranimda
@Aranimda - 20.12.2019 08:12

ate oh ate ate.

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@skylo706
@skylo706 - 10.12.2019 10:48

The guy at the beginning is explaining like a teacher sHoUlD

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@shelby3822
@shelby3822 - 08.12.2019 23:30

All I hear is 8 zed 8

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