Knicks vs Pacers Post Game Show: Highlights, Analysis & Caller Reactions - EP 539

Coach Combover is defensive guru he has to figure it out sooner or later

Time to replace Thibs and make Knicks Great Again!!!

Tell me why Matt Ryan not playing yet CP

so is Thibedeau going to play the starting 5 40 plus for 82 games. it's ridiculous already. Have some confidence . Everyone is in the league for a reason. No way Sims should be playing more then the rookie and Kolek has showed he can play more then 5 minutes. Enuff already. We will never have a full tieam if this is wearing guys out. nagging injuries happen

The problem is this team switched from a defensive team to a offensive team with one of the worst offensive coaches in the league.

Thibs plays as many players as he feels he can without putting guys out there that will weaken us and leave us exposed, options limited, cam payne return will make big diff, just hope its soon

Why are we defending not playing the bench on the podcast. It’s a 12 man game the bench doesn’t have to play great defense they just have to play well enough to give the starters a rest. You can’t win a championship with 7 guys THIBS has to adjust and allow these kids to make mistakes. Kolec was benched for getting back doored* og came in for him and got back doored* so what’s the difference

I keep saying this cp3!!!! Hart has to go to the bench!!!!!!!!!! McBride or kolek has to start. They played that offense at the beginning of the 4th qtr. when I said on the play by play. I quote, what line up is this. They had kolek, bridges, McBride, og and KAT

They going have to do something about that bench 😤 that bench is trash the starters are tried how the F anybody going to thank they going to last

🟧🟦🟧🟦🟧🟦🟧🟦We’re a 42 win team at best as currently constructed and as currently run. No defense is being played. Fatigue kills us in the 4th Q. No significant bench (time) contributions will lead to more injured starters!!! Aside from Deucy (26.8 mpg), we need at least 3 additional benchers to log at least 8-10-15 minutes, so our starters can finish games well. Where’s Huk? TK gets 2 minutes??? Sims 9 minutes?? We need them on the court NOT for increasing leads or for dominating the opponent. We need then on the court to get our starters some rest!!! Where’s Pacôme? When dudes get healthy: Campaign, The Big Sneeze, The Blockness Monster ShameTime and KMac, then we’ll see what we have. We need to play the young ones. Let’s go!!!!!!!
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All I hear is they going all in but not been effective enough to see the results. Our rivals Cleveland Cavaliers is 11-0. No one is mentioned that. All this hype about the knicks, Cleveland has jumped everybody.

This is really difficult to watch, why can't they win away games? Why is Thibs only playing 6 player-we've been down this road already and it did not work. We also need more movement, and I think Brunson only passed the ball to Kat no more than 5 times? We need to do better. No D and allowing 40 points in a quarter-OMG! Mikal is lost out there and what happened to his D

I wanna see that Josh Hart energy off the bench. Only if precious was available i would like him in the lineup with Kat Brunson OG Bridges

Yea. This loss stings. It doesn’t does feel alarming at how bad we are defensively against teams who play fast and spread the floor… kat just doesn’t provide enough interior presence defensively to scare teams. Right now we’re living and dying by the 3 as well. Not a recipe for winning basketball

I know we don’t have everyone healthy, but I feel this team has regressed from last season

It’a not about these young guys coming out and getting stops!! It’s about them getting real time reps, so they can become comfortable playing and confidence! So when second half of the season come THEN they can actually be useful and give our starters some rest!

never seen a team flip their whole defensive identity from one season to the next like this. I don’t recognize this Knicks team. I know we lost dudes but we had a culture. even Deuce is cheeks

GEEEE WILIKERS! The Pacers won! I’ll send Josh Hart some Longs Donuts.

Defense yea ok listen play the rookies seriously man you never know what can happen energy they have versus are our starters very winded. Thins needs to adjust seriously

CP, YOU STARTED THE PODCAST THE KNICKS COULDN'T GET ANY STOPS, & THE PACERS SCORED 40 IN THE 4TH QUARTER, AND BLAMING IT ON THE PLAYERS, BUT HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT OF HOW THIBBS IS RUNNING A 6TH MAN ROTATION AND THE STARTERS ARE GASED OUT BECAUSE HE'S NOT BUILDING HIS BENCH ON THE FLY, WHICH AT THIS POINT IT IS THE MAIN ISSUE. THIBBS DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY CHESS WITH THIS TEAM. HE'S STUBBORN AND YOUR MIKAL AS THE IRON MAN ICON WILL SOON END WITH THIBBS, TRUST ME HE'S GOING TO GET HURT BECAUSE OF THE STUBBORNNESS OF THIBBS. PACERS COACH OUT PLAYED KNICKS COACH. YOU TWO GUYS NEED TO CUT THE BULLSHIT AND BASH THIBBS😢

Our offense is fine. We can score with anyone. But you run 6 guys at the start of the season, they're gonna be dog tired in the 4th, and the other team will run you off with fresh legs. Mikal is a massive disappointment too. God forbid this guy is already declining and we got sold a junker when we thought we were getting a used whip in good condition, Brooklyn is gonna be getting generational talent off of us for years if this guy doesn't turn out to be what we thought were getting.

We got to give the bench a chance and let them get experience. Better to do this early in the season than later. Do the mistakes now.

Listen I’m not asking for Matt Ryan to come here and be Steve Novak but in games like this when you need 3 point shooting I think Thibs can find 5 min for him. He’s also 6’6 so he still has some size out there as well. He can take 5-10 min from Hart or Bridges just to see if you can catch some lightning from him early, especially cause opposing defenses will know they’ll have to chase him around. When 2-3 main rotational players are out is when you truly see the strengths of coaches to use what they have without gassing the starters.

I truly do feel that Precious will make a big impact when he returns because not only is he smarter defensively than Sims but he’s also not shy to put it on the floor and make something happen at the rim which adds another element to the offense. I’m not too worried yet but by game 15-20 if we’re still dealing with these same issues it’s gonna start getting scary fast

Alex said players train to play 48min??? No the hell they don't. No other team is doing this for a reason. Sounds like bad excuses for Thibs terrible rotation.

Im tired of the excuses. Look, i am not panicking, nor do i believe that this team won't get on track. However, the excuse to not play the bench to give guys rest is terrible. No one is saying the bench needed to play in the 4th. The 1st, 2nd and 3rd perhaps. You can look at every game like a full season. You want your guys ready for the 4th just like how you want them ready for the playoffs: rested and ready to go. The fact that it is early is the best reason to play the bench, especially if you are giving them 82 games and they lost anyway😂 so why not play the bench.

It's so weird to be able to criticize all the players, but the coach is off limits. Record wise The Knicks are tied with the heat. The Heat have less talent, but what is the caviot? amazing coaching. If Spolstra had this roster, we would probably be the undefeated team😂. Look, it's annoying to lose, and running the read and react system, i understand this team has to learn how to gel more than just teams running plays since there are no real sets. I just don't like the excuse when there are rookies all over the league who are contributing something and yall are going with the excuse of they would not have been of any help when the starters getting rest is helping.

Was the biggest aquisition mathurin getting healthy????

Looking forward to another playoff meeting

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There's no way y'all are okay with our guys playing 40 minutes a game until precious and Mitch come back! You talk about AH and Kolek getting cooked defensively as if we weren't already getting cooked on the defensive side.

Leon Rose might of gotten a little trigger happy on the trades.

Play Hukporti at the 5 in the starting rotation for his defense. Let Towns play the 4 for his offense. Let Hart be first off the bench with Deuce which is where he wants to be. The Knicks can score but the defense looks confused, uncertain on switches—sometimes they seem to be getting out of the way and then when they see that nobody’s stepping up they look at one another accusingly. That’s not good.

Brunson's defense is horrific at times, especially when he goes into hero ball mode.

Sounds like we rather have less talent and fall short than talent that is expected to win. 😂. We are not living on single game matchups anymore. It’s about the playoffs. Time to change our mentality dwelling on every loss.

Normally a score of 121 pts. would be sufficient to win most games, so Knicks did well in scoring although the objective is to outscore your opponents or reduce opponent scoring. So obviously they fell down in one or both. So what to do about it. I do think the thought on Knicks being tired because lack of rotation is a contributing factor. But also true is that if your shooting 2's and your opponents are shooting 3's, well it doesn't take a rocket scientist. Well lets hope things get worked out before the season ends.

I feel like guards have torched us all season.

I don’t like bridges on the defensive end . He moves his feet way to slow always get caught on the pick and roll and leaves empty spaces when the ball is moved quickly . Just watch his feet way to slow always

You can't defend if you're tired!!
I don't understand what you guys are not understanding about that.
No matter how bad you think the bench is, they have to play. The starters need it.

Every year we have the same complaint about Thibs.
Rose has got to fire his friend.

Playing 7 guys this early is not a good sign.

You are supposed to be fresh but playing defense and running gets you tired of you not getting a break.

Bridges getting cooked on the defensive end

Tj warren... put up 30 points in the Gleage game last night. looked great in the preseason. Is 6'8 and can shoot. Wtf are we doing.

Also we need to bring a few more players into the fold . Even if they are a worser matchup then the starters we gotta start getting them in the game . They need to jump in the fire and get into the game now before later . In the playoffs we’re going to need these extra players and we’re going to need them to be ready and incorporated. Another thing people don’t understand sometimes is they give thibs a pass on it but sometimes it itsent about who’s looking at you a different look even if there considered worser defenders can sometimes be the diffrence that can throw that offensive player off is axis . Now boom you got a team who together gets the job done . Can’t just play 6 players as you can see they can hold it up for the whole game . Get the others involved even if it’s little by little we’re going to need them later that’s a 100

I think it's way to early to panic I expected this with the type new roster NY has but come 30 games if NY is still not effective then yeah time to push that P button. Thibs has to get off that high horse & start using his bench a lil bit but thibs don't trust his bench so expect some drama he's gonna drive his starters to the ground then he's gonna have no choice but to play his bench then he's gonna regret it cause again he doesn't trust anyone but his guys & he doesn't know what his bench is capable of cause he doesn't know them. We'll see what happens.

Is it me or do I hear the word Hukporti come up by several people. We seen him during preseason he has more potential then even Sims defensively. If we not willing to change and make adjustments on this team we are not gonna win games.

Coach Thib needs to get with the modern age. Most teams are playing 10 deep . Especially during the regular season. He has to trust more players.

every year Mickey Mouse Thibs starts the season w/ 6-7 man rotation and plays the bench 2-3 mins. this is why we start slow every year, and he doesn't adjust until 15-20gms. dude is a cesspool...

I rock with y’all , but how do you actually just disregard the thought of giving our players rest and time to speak with coaches by playin who we have ? How do you disregard the fact that shots are short and free throw percentage is horrid because of how gassed these guys are in 4th quarter? Pacers played ten guys. Tyrese sat down for McConnell. Kolek cant match those minutes? Pacome can’t come in to give guys a well needed rest and coaching when jarace walker is out there clanking shit ? Idk man… kinda simple. Give the guys a rest and time to get a plan with the coaches, time to evaluate and most importantly, breathe and drink fluids.

Thibs has to play the other players. I do understand injury plays a role at this time, but you have to use the other guys as well in case more injuries occur at the end of the season or during the playoffs.

Also, last point. You need Mitchell Robinson in the starting lineup. Josh to the bench. I hope folks can drop this trade, Mitch fiasco!

The Atlanta Hawks and Indiana Pacers are two teams that the 2024-25 New York Knicks shouldn’t lose to (ever). This team can’t close. Thibs should be writing the quote from Glengarry Glen Ross, “A…B…C…Always be closing!’