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Not sure shooting relatively close rabbit targets offers a fair comparison on a shell like the Sporting HV. Would be keen to see how they perform on 55 yard crossers or a big battue, that’s where shells like that make a difference.
ОтветитьState side “yank”, I shoot both Fiocchi shooting dynamics and B&P F2 Mach . Both 8 shot, both 1250 fps. Hands down the Fiocchi is a much softer recoil than the B&P. I shoot a full flat (250) every outing.
Ответитьthey r both awesom
ОтветитьLite speeds every day, great cartridge 26grm fast and gret patter.
ОтветитьI buy multiply different shells for different weather conditions and disciplines. In high humidity with wind the pattern breaks up on very few occasions. Shooting handicap at the 27 and doubles takes better shells. I really do have a shell fetish
ОтветитьApex is expensive by my reckoning; $60 handloaded
Ответитьso many variants of cartridges
ОтветитьHI David, we use B&P here in Australia and they are 100% so sweet to shoot and break clays - avg price here would be $140 Aus $ for 250 (slab)
ОтветитьI’m shooting the compac and sporting ones really kill nicely and very soft shooting. Not the fastest but hold a nice pattern
ОтветитьDear Sir, are you aware if NSI goin the RIO GROUP or the oposite?Do you have a link for this info?thanks a lot!!!!
ОтветитьFiocchi has just bought out B&P and Lyvale Express I have been told?
Can anyone confirm that?
Cheapest crap in US now $400 a thousand.
ОтветитьWhat is your personal gun (s) you shoot regular..??
ОтветитьIt's not brass, it's coated steel.
Ответитьdetermining how a cartridge performs based on "tumpiness" and whether you hit the damn target is the moist stupid thing i hav eheard yet.
ОтветитьNever seen or shot the b&p csrtridges but has always wanted to try them but up in Scotland I don’t know who stocks them.
ОтветитьUse to use nothing but fiocchi and won lots with them but there quality control has gone down to many miss fires and miss shaped shells not fitting in the gun moved over to another shell now but yes fiocchi are one of the cheaper priced shells but not always the best oh and if you contacted fiocchi about there problems with the shells your pissing in the wind there not interested
ОтветитьWhat is your name ?
ОтветитьCould you put prices as a comparison along with your opinion and rank as you think ?
ОтветитьI am in the USA and shoot fiocchi shooting dynamics
ОтветитьHi David I have used the B&P feloicy I found them to be very smooth teduiced recoil thanks to the gordon system that these have, they also seem to keep a tight patten. But a lot of money special day trip
ОтветитьB&p are excellent, very low recoil and great patterns, if the top cartridges are worth the extra money really depends what level shooter you are
ОтветитьNothing comes close to Cheddite Mach 3s or Trap ORO..
ОтветитьWhere are Litespeed less than £200 / 1000? Maybe 2 or 3 years ago.
ОтветитьIf your looking for a absolutely fantastic cartridge look no further than the bornaghi stars 👍what a cartridge, bornaghi do a great range of cartridges from the bornaghi sport cartridges up to the bornaghi stars there's a cartridge to suit all budgets in there range 💥david you should do a video on bornaghis cartridge range 👍
ОтветитьPaying £55 /250 carton here in Northern Ireland for GB Trap which are fine for clays 24g. Haven't come across BnP as yet
ОтветитьWhere can you get them for under 200/1000 I can’t get them any cheaper than 230
ОтветитьSellior & Bellot super trap 28g 7's for me, they are not the one's ye grandpappy shot these are a clay pigeons worst enemy devastating kills at long range to, and under £250 a thou. I think they are better than a lot of top brands .👍🏻😵😵
ОтветитьJust load my own with anything that's available , when push comes to shove theres really not a lot init anymore just a hell of a lot of marketing 💥
ОтветитьB&P cartriges are very good and reliable
Ответитьoxford shooting company fiocchi litespeed 26g plastic wad £217 per 1000 so not under £200 per thousand
ОтветитьOnly tried Fiocchi Pigeon 32 fibre and Golden Pheasant fibre, Pigeon 32 I thought wasn’t bad, Golden Pheasant kicked like a mule with a hornet stinging it’s arse.
ОтветитьFiocchi f blacks have a very hard primer, stopped using them when I had 10+ miss fires out of 250.
ОтветитьGame bore dark storm fibre the best in 8 shot no targets to far 👍
ОтветитьCartridges are extremely expensive and difficult to find in the US. I recently found a case of Winchester AA and was happy to pay $150 for a flat of 250 cartridges which won’t last a week.
ОтветитьShot B&P bird hunting several years ago and really liked them.
ОтветитьB&P f2 Mach over here in the USA are great as they have less felt recoil than cartridges of the same payload and speed. And they kill well as they have 5% antimony
Ответитьtt two blue box
or
fblack series
or what you can ger cheapest at local store😊
gold fiotchi whatever vs cheap tt.two ;)
32 PLN vs 49 ;)
This video seems super popular but maybe im just not as early as usual.
ОтветитьI do a bit of trap. I always shoot the cheapest shells
ОтветитьAmazing review.
ОтветитьThanks David, as usual a good video but may I say that the vast majority of people that shoot, in the UK are struggling not to try to hit clays with the marginal gains that more expensive cartridges actually achieve, but are really struggling with the large increases in the cost of cartridges over the recent months , to actually justify carrying on shooting. How about a cost verses gains video ?
ОтветитьHere in Australia, ie Brisbane the days of sub 100$ for a 250 slab have just about gone, Winchester super target is now 106$ a slab, Falcon is around 100$ but very hard to find..
ОтветитьB&p legends and flash 👌👌👌
ОтветитьI always used liyavale express for clays and victory cartridges for game, great cartridges at a reasonable price, and never any problems, but once you find a good brand you normally stick with them 👍
ОтветитьCan’t understand the slightly negative comments, not many clay vids show good breaks and shooter in the same shot as its very difficult to do and the whole point of the vid was comparing cartridges which on video you can only do through verbal comments and to be fair you didn’t stop talking. The only thing that could have made it better would have been confirming velocities over a Chronograph.
We shoot a lot of .410 challenges in our club and learnt a hell of a lot by shooting .410 over a Chronograph and comparing patterns, lead and breaks.
Fiochi 3” were fast over the Chronograph and had good breaks but we had to stop using them because of the plastic wad, very similar performance and breaks were had with Hull high Pheasant 3” 7, fibre wad but and awesome cartridge in .410
Most modern shells will kill all targets. But sometimes worth paying a bit extra to have more confidence in your shells.
ОтветитьHow about the Gordon system??!!
ОтветитьFiocchi are my go to cartridge 👍
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