Realtime LUT on the Lumix S5IIX to match an Arri Alexa Mini!

Great video! Just got my S5II, a beast of a camera. Thank you

the best rational forthe S5iiX

Thank You ❤

my first camera was the GH5 always loved sony because of the lowlight , when it came time to upgrade the s5mk2X came out and I went for it.
used to rent fx6 for bigger jobs, but love having a more capable camera for all other projects.

recording to SSD is insanely useful. with the output raw was not with bars. maybe a recorder side limitation? maybe atomos will bring something and lumix can make an update?
the black bars mean there is no true 6k? or is just like an 8k with bars?

Is the new Full Frame Blackmagic Cinema Camera 6K an even better choice?

Do you apply the Arri Clog to the footage in post production? or the LUT from the link?

Fantastic, this is the info I have bee missing , great job brother

Braw ?? HDMI

HELLZ YEAH!!! Thanks!

Thanks, Tito! I'm a subscriber to your channel now, after seeing your link on B&H's website.

tell me if you apply Luts in the camera, then the image when output via HDMI will look like using Luts or a clean signal?

I played with this when the camera came out and came to the conclusion that it was terrible. Use a transform later don’t mess with the DR baked in.

That's a pretty smart hack, Tito! Thanks for this! I am probably replacing the GH5 with the S5 II X, and effectively completing my transition to the S line. My trusty Lumix S1 becomes by B-Cam, and now I'm scrambling to find good L-Mount glass that will be gentle on my shoulders since I travel a lot. I might just go back and get a GH5 in the future, since I am holding on to my MFT glass, but for now, the S5 II X ticks most of the boxes (the Nikon Z8 ticks all of them at this point, but it costs much more, so waiting for the S1H IIX to reach that point and then probably sell the S1 and make S5 II X my B-Cam and yada yada... the cycle of upgrades is almost endless)

Olá Tito. Você fala português provavelmente de Portugal, certo? Abraços.

Thanks!

Thanks Tito. I recently switched from Nikon Z6 to and S5 and an S5II. The ease of video work was the main reason.
My biggest question has been getting open gate from the S5II to my Ninja V. Every setting so far results in black bars. I bought the upgrade to raw, but it looks like from your video that has the same result. Do you have a video on what I am missing?

does it only record ProRes through the USB port? Can't record ProRes to memory cards? this makes it impossible to control the camera with a gimbal, right?

I have been a user of Lumix S5 for a year, the truth is that beyond the fact that it does not have "good" continuous autofocus, the quality it offers is excellent, 4k has beautiful sharpness, even full hd and the options it gives you slow motion is very usable.
It is part of my team for TV programs that I work on and the color that the camera gives is very nice, nothing to envy to the Canon cameras with which we also work.
Later when I have the money I would like to have the s5IIX

Your voice has gotten so gravelly lately. Hope your vocal cords aren't sustaining permanent damage. I had to get myself in the habit of NOT gravelling, because my voice would give out after a day and a half of presenting. Then it would take me days of not speaking to recover my voice which really cut into my practice time and of course my ability to communicate efficiently.

Brilliant video mate, love seeing you using the S5IIX :)

THANKS TITO, brilliant as always. I am going to get S5IIx as my A camera... asap! Best regards

Pannys VLog always worked great for Arri conversions 🙏 i remember using the GHAlex lut back in the day. one of the best log profile in the mirrorless world.

Last week also my S5iiX arrived. For now i keep my S5 as B-cam, but i might swap that one for a S5ii in the future. But really love the S5iiX. 6K video is also magic, so much flexibility there.

Is the chroma sub sampling in prores HQ 6k open gate via SSD 422 or 420?

You rock Tito! I’ve had the S5IIX for about a week and just updated firmware to 1.1. If you haven’t, you should. Vlog Looks incredible. When I heard you were going to shoot next to the Mini Alexa, the same thing went through my mind about using Davinci CST to transform Vlog to ARRI Gammut/Log and toss it into the camera as a real-time LUT. Looks good sir.

Do you think I should buy a Black magic monitor or Atmos?

Soo great video! Thanks! Im simply upgrading from original s5 which still is soo good versitile camera for the price :)

Being from the Commonwealth 50hz land of Australia I’m thrilled to get PAL support in OG in the S5iiX. And I freaking LOVE the S5iiX! Lack of the OLPF makes me nervous in moire-ish situations though and makes me reticent to let go of the S1H. What are your thought on that Tito?

We the poor are just getting those second hand S1Hs hahahahahahahah

Awesome 😎

You just transforming it from one color space to another, you are not matching the colors with this method. It only makes sense to match the gamma response of a LUT that was created for LOG C otherwise, there's no point in doing that.

An interesting topic, but on a 3 "or 7" screen, you can fix the exposure and color. In theory, loot is a blessing, but Panasonic give us wi fi broadcast to an external monitor without lags!

How do you think the stabilisation in the S5iiX would do with the likes of the Sirui Saturn lens which is 1.6? Is 1.5 close enough to get off with? I want to pair them together for a lightweight anamorphic travel set up.

Great tip brother, thanks for sharing.

Phantom LUTS are great for the S5ii series to match the Arri look

I wouldn’t do that. First, the camera can only bake in 33x resolution LUT, so that CST would look better when applied in post. 2nd, if your WB isn’t perfectly spot on, you’d have to correct it post-CST, which again isn’t ideal. 3rd, the only time you’re actually saving is that one node CST… not worthy of sacrificing anything over one node. If you really want to match the camera to the Alexa, just get Emotive Color’s S5IIaleX once it’s released (soon). You’ll be able to use the LUT version or the powergrade version and it’ll match the Alexa in all it’s glory, with highlight rolloff, perfect skintones, and absolutely perfect HSL. Since you also own the S1H, you can already have access to S1alex, the conversion for S1, S1H and S5, which is unbelievable. You can also use it on S5II and IIX footage, and it will match pretty well, but it’s always ideal to use conversion made specifically for the camera sensor.

A Resolve color space transform doesn’t change the color science, so applying a rec709 LUT for a different camera without changing the underlying color science leads to trouble. If you want to do this, use Emotive Color’s color science emulations to actually match the colors to the Alexa. And I’m am not sure what this really accomplishes. You can set up a grade in Resolve and apply that to the footage with just as many clicks as you would the Alexa rec709 LUT but without burning in a transform that might cause trouble. Also, don’t use the Resolve rec709 LUT for the Alexa, that is really old and clips much sooner. Use Arri’s LUT tool to get a rec709 LUT that’s much smoother.

strictly for anamorphic purposes, is the S5IIX the best camera for its price on the market now?

I’ve been using the S1Alex Conversion Lut on my View Finder Assist on my S1H, so this is great to see taking it one step further on the S5IIX.

I think I’ll keep my S1H as a rigged out A Cam, and the S5IIX will be my B-Cam/Run&Gun gimbal camera on the Ronin RS3 Mini.

What do you think of Kinefinity Mavo S35 mark 2 which can do 6k 3:2 open gate 60p?

It's a shame we never get Prores 4444 (XQ) on these cams. Prores RAW would possibly a good substitute, if it fit any workflow you'd do unsolicited sober that is.

like we talked about before - I really think the realtime LUT thingy is a stillborn idea. No, not the idea, that one is good because it utilizes the feature that was probably intended to do the exact opposite (wild guess here). But everything about it is just "not adding up".
You probably want to get the very best quality out of your images, so using a LUT rather than e.g. a CST (or even better: a proper ACES environment) is already not a good step, as a LUT is clipping by nature. You can argue that this nature probably won't ever be problematic in this scenario, but still: you shoot this to better grade/match, so eradicating this single step of conversion is a debatable relief in the workflow. What's also debatable is how well the engine applies the data; trilinear versus tetrahedral interpolation inside Resolve for example can certainly make a big difference. Would be worth checking out how well it works here. What's not debatable though is the reduced res, a 33³ cube versus a 65³ cube is 13% the values. And we are still talking about a table with limited capabilities to begin with - applying a curve (like a CST or ACES) is always to be prefered. Lastly, V-Log and AlexaV3LogC are pretty close as-is (just talking the curve here, not the Gamut), so at least the footage doesn't get bent sideways but yeah, I still find it debatable. To end on a nicer note: I still think the idea is good, but the way it can work is not. And the video wasn't nearly as clickbaity as I'd anticipated, I'm shocked. SHOCKED! Reason 3 will surprise you.