Why Doesn't The Honda Civic Type R Have Torque Steer?

Thats awesome. Unfortunately my elantra n has a decent amount of torque steer.

Lsd?

As a retired aircraft mechanic I can say that I cannot get it thru my head why my fk8 doesn’t pull to the left😂😢

To eliminate torque steer, get a real car.

Ah, this explains why my engine swapped Insight is so easy to corner hard underpower to the right but have to really lean into it on left handers. I'm excited to get my New FL5 Type R delivered to check this out.

Will it still have torque steer if from a stand still/Low speed, you accelerate, but one wheel is on High grip surface and one on Low grip? Like If the Right wheel is on the road, Left wheel on Grass, steering would turn to the Left?

Does this mean that wheel spacers can exacerbate torque steer?

The old Lincoln Continental with the 4.6 FWD had so much torque steer but it was torque back to straight.

Because they copy Renault

I test drove one for a day and it has the worst torque steer I’ve ever experienced. To the point it almost went into the other lanes next to me. Maybe mine was broken

They could have solved this problem by using longitudinal engine front wheel drive, with equal length driveshafts, no need for limited slip differential or suspension geometry.

it has no torgue steer because it has a limited slip differential. dual axis mcstrut does not offer anything better than a conventional strut. that is why ford ditched it and gm also.

are you absolutely sure its torque steer? lsd is giving exactly same feel

does anyone know if i can put factory type R suspension from a mark 9 onto a normal 1.8 mark 9 hatchback ie will it bolt straight on? can i get new springs and dampers and just replace them?

I have worked on suspension design and I have never seen spindle length/offset being used in moment calculation. Can you share your source on this one?

>plays forza
>torque steer stock
HMMMMM

Calling front wheel as driven wheel, is it right terminology? Shouldn’t it be driving wheel and rear in that case would be driven wheels? I am trying to get the context.

Honda FK2 system vs. megane 275 Trophy perfohub vs Focus mk2 rs revoknuckle? Which is the best?

The torque steer you're referenced here could easily be avoided if honda used different type of lsd...

Very interesting, and comprehensive. I have a fairly high powered classic Mini with considerable torque steer, i.e. pulls right on hard acceleration, pulls left on sudden deceleration. According to David Vizard's Mini book, one reason not mentioned by anyone else, is that the crown wheel & pinion are helical gears. Thus you get side loading on the bearings to one side on acceleration, and to the other side on deceleration - the friction in the bearings being unequal. Having replaced all bushes, bearings, CV joints, mountings, 4 pin diff, tie rod bushes (firm), moving parts, everything, it still had some torque steer, less than before, but noticeable. IN THE END, I increased the torque on all the side plate flange bolts - carefully, cos the bolts go into aluminium - increasing the pre-load, and that has almost completely eliminated the torque steer, unnoticeable in normal driving. Hope this helps, and thanks for the vid.

I thought torque steer was and Awd or Fwd system where torque is biased to the outer wheel in corners

moped

Never owned a fwd but thats not really torque steer its caster causing that you have enough caster to counter act the kpi centering at that speed it going to the outside because the car want to continue turning the ideal line is usually to follow that space for whatever speed because you car isn't experiencing any understeer. So you are being pushed around the corner rather than pulled so if you loose traction momentarily you won't change directly. It's usually how you drift and the reason it so much easier with more caster you can feel it more easily with less traction.

is that double wishbone? What's the name of the front suspension type?

My megane had no t steer first and my neighbour has one of these

Tq for such a great video. I'm not sure if this has been asked before, but would the addition of a limited slip differential also help with reducing the torque steer?

request to do another video if awd car torque steer or not

the best car is a motorcycle

Hello, quick question. Can I install type r suspension and arm on the Civic hatchback?

I can see a ton of effort and work on this video but it didn't help me understand everything. Obviously I understood the major concept of the axis being closer to the wheel. And the side by side images helped but it was too quick and the lines drawn were not explained enough. It's hard for me to explain what I didn't understand. Maybe it's my lack of effort to understand or a combination. But I think more time could of been spent explaining what part of the tire is in contact with the road, when and with what torque, and much more, because I'm just not visualizing what you're trying to explain. I'm not seeing the forces or I wasn't shown the forces. And the lines on each side at the same time didn't explain each line it just showed the difference. Anyways, just wanted to let you know my thoughts and hope they help.

Because NA Type R have no torque

I have only owned rear wheel drive cars, but i recently had a hire car, with little power, but deadly torque steer. Not this car. Try launching this car hard with the steering wheel turned hard. I pulled out into fast moving traffic from a side street, and had to fight the car to stay in the chosen lane. When the car is going straight, it is not as impressive as at the boundary conditions. As I said, I have never owned/driven a front wheel drive before, and I only noticed it in the above circumstance. It had no power/torque to influence the steering of the car when going straight.

I see that torq steer while ur turning and gassing as a good thing.. it may have something to do with the caster.. .. but on the RsX chassi.. when u floor it on a turn the wheel will never come back to str8 on its own... so you need to actually fight it back to str8 on your own so u dont crash... kinda like a fR car or s20000 .. u let go of the wheel after turning and it will str8’n it self ... on thr rsx u gotta figbt it to get it str8 .. if the new ctr turns str8 on its own while turning and flooring .. i c it as honda fixed the problem from the rsx and what ever chassis after 00-01 that had that problem.. if you driven the cars im talking about on tight roads.. you should have felt it.. if u drive hard enough.. my 2 cents

Bogus Basin Road?

EDIT: Definitely, I've flogged my WRX up and down that road enough to do it in my sleep! Did you grow up in Boise?

doesnt zero scrub radius mess with braking?

What would be a great aftermarket wheel size and tires for it ?

I saw lots of wheel hop though

I was going to make fun of FWD cars but this Civic looks real nice👌👌

so putting spacers to your car incerases torque steer?

It feels like we can apply that to regular civic tho

This explains why so many people say that the Civic Type R doesn't feel like it has FWD. On every other FWD torque steer is present, driving one without it must be strange at first.

How well is the performance of the wheel when you go down to an 18in wheel on the type r? Will if have that same level of performance as the 20in wheel?

This is nonsense I have a Tyre R and they torque steer quite easily especially in the wet.

Dive and anti squad on a McPherson?

Torque steer is only a concern for people who don't hold their steering wheel appropriately when driving their car hard.

Not impossible.
Been there done that.

This is VERY impressive engineering. Great explanation. Another one of the reasons why this car is a modern-day LEGEND!

The Si doesn't have much if any torque steer either