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So he hates tribalism but disagrees with multiculturalism? Make it make sense
ОтветитьMy theory on the RISE of TRIBALISM ..........Since 1970 America has seen a steady decline in church attendance and ultimately TENS and TENS of millions of Americans turning their back on their God....the result? They have empty lives now and are looking to fill it.....but nothing can fill the void of God.....so they are now turning to tribalism to find an outlet for their HATE.
ОтветитьBy calling university tribalism, JP is shaming particularly the University of Toronto.
ОтветитьSlayed them without breaking a sweat.
ОтветитьNailed. It.
ОтветитьJordan Peterson with his cold-war political world view, with a lot of preconceived and inaccurate statements, talking about contemporarily tribalism?
ОтветитьExcellent as always! First time hearing nervousness in his voice during the first few minutes? Looks like quite a large audience that are all formally dressed and i would think that any speaker would be little nervous?
ОтветитьA jewel amongst stones
ОтветитьDr. Jordan Peterson is, and I say this with the greatest consideration, the Messiah of our time! He manages to put in words, so many things I've known deep down to be true but have somehow not found the way to express. With every word, it's like he's waking up a certain part of my psyche that I have been consciously or subconsciously inhibited for one reason or another.
ОтветитьThe guy rocking back and forth isn't a great public speaker, I don't even have to hear him, but his shoulders are slouched, he's carrying out a repetitive behaviour to ease his discomfort, and he appears to be memorising a speech to an extent variant to his own opinions, its a shame.
Ответитьdisappointing to see the opposition glancing through a leaflet instead of hearing the closing argument...
ОтветитьFrom what I see,
A failed attempt to
Humiliate JP. Dyson
Tried to play mind games
With a clinical psychologist.
Smdh. Need I say more?
These riots had me thinking of this issue. Thanks for clipping this
ОтветитьJordan is a “modern day - Jesus Christ” ... he speaks TRUTH!
ОтветитьI don't agree with some of his idea vehiculed by this video but the general idea of the video, I agree.
ОтветитьJordan is so articulate
ОтветитьDyson is not even listening to Peterson, hes getting his word salad lines prepared so he can sound smart.
ОтветитьTribe is an evolutionary anthropology concept - Peterson should stick to his jungian type shit
Ответитьwhy are women there? they don't understand logic
ОтветитьWorst debate he’s ever done, fry was just moaning about the subject when he could have just got involved with it, other side was just word salad that went nowhere. The only interesting thing from that debate was Peterson explaining how the left doesn’t think communism is a bad idea.
ОтветитьI get the idea but I don't like the absolute way of looking at an individual of a group speaking for a group, you might agree with most of the beliefs of the group you are a member of but I guarantee you no one 100 % agrees on anything.
ОтветитьI felt this was EPIC! I have only watched this clip because i don't want to see the unhelpful parts that the other people brought to the debate. I may watch more later but I needed to concentrate on Peterson's part to give me an overview of what to expect from the whole debate.
ОтветитьTribal wapachoso, tribal guarachoso
ОтветитьYou rock
ОтветитьSo insidious. This man is leading you astray. Everything he says is kind of right and sounds good, but it's twisted. I believe his purpose is to bring us back to materialistic, narcissistic consumerism. He never questions the status quo of corporate capitalism, only the "radicals"- left and right- in relation to it. The cult of the individual is one of the worst things to happen to society.
ОтветитьJordan....I used to think you were so wise, but now I see that you have a blind spot. We are all part of a collective group called humans. Western humans have developed incredible wealth and power, yet remain one of the emptiest and judgmental group ever to walk the earth. You're trying to tell me that history doesn't tell the power side of the story......really?? And hashing up all of the other collective groups like Ivy League students and professors, CEO's and all the other "Giants' of the industry isn't something we do all the time to give us position in the hierarchy...book smart only goes so far, doesn't it??
Confidence does not replace competence......this is blind babble.
Bite Size Philosophy , I've got a challenge for you. A compilation of JBP denouncing right wing authoritarianism so we can put an end to the ignorant claims of lefties, where ever we should encounter them on social media, with a quick clip. 😉
ОтветитьI am generally inspired by professor Peterson and his efforts.
I must confess that I am discouraged by what appears to me (liberal) to be a carefully orchestrated attack not on wrongs in society but only on wrongs perpetrated by the left.
I understand that we are all motivated by the chemical payoffs of our thought processes but I still look to find balance in his venom distribution.
Let's side with him for arguments sake that only the left is worthy of his venoms., That socialism for example is evil, ok.
Necessity is the mother of invention right so let's talk about the conditions that preempt it.
Let's acknowledge the radical right who engage in class warfare everyday while we work .
I suspect he is somewhat drunk on being shoulder hoisted on the right.
He has a great power to comprehend and communicate.
He must see the absurdity in knowing the group machinations from the right, meanwhile telling the left to be only individuals.
The debate was proff that tribalism runs in our DNA.
I think the central point made Jordan Peterson still holds. We don't have a low resolution grand narrative that unite us anymore.
The obvious consequences will be to fight or to separate. Tribes fight, but they also do separate and make another tribe. The most optimal path would be to sepparate those two grand narratives that cannot coexist in the same place and make another tribe somewhere
Why don’t you tell your Jewish donors about tribalism.
Is Hollywood not the Jewish tribalism?
Is Wall Street not the Jewish tribalism?
Jordan Peterson - Explanatory Power is off the roof!!
ОтветитьWe returned to Tribalism or Identity Politics. ----> Hmmm... History seems to repeat itself.
ОтветитьWhen I was young my father told me there are two sides... the collectivist side and the individual side. I knew then that preserving individual liberty effectively ensures freedom to the group.
My response surprised him as he was more a collectivist at the time. To him I think it seemed selfish... but which really is?
The price of diversity and unity.
ОтветитьOh, poor Jordan. The debate was disappointing and difficult to go through without wanting to actually punch the screen. This guy has to tolerate so much shit thrown to him being completely controlled. He needs a hug.
ОтветитьIn approx 150 yrs, U.S.A. became a world superpower (1776 - 1914), why is that? because it's constitution enshrined the rights of the individual. There's empirical data right there!
ОтветитьI’m glad he exist.
ОтветитьI watched the entire debate. The comments of the people that saw the debate, and the results of the survey done before and after the debate leads me to believe that the people attracted to this kind of debate are of above average education. Just keeping up with Peterson's thinking requires a sharp mind.
ОтветитьUnfortunately, individualism assumes that each person is capable of the same level of sane rationalization. Hierarchy is not something that can be removed. It is bound in nature itself.
ОтветитьDyson is a racist
ОтветитьBullshit! The mechanisms to prevent corruption in hierarchy have failed completely.
ОтветитьDid anyone expect anything different from Dyson?, he is nothing more than a demagogue profiting from the uneducated and impressionable. His argument was horrible and proved Peterson's points.
ОтветитьKinda understand why some people were bummed out by this debate, but at the same time, did no one else find this hilarious? Whathisname Al Sharpton had a potato peeler, Peterson had a D.Eagle. Just chill and go watch Life of Brian or somethin...
ОтветитьI'm left wondering " is it just me " thinking that Jordan was the only one making sense ?
ОтветитьI sort of can't believe how much he has exploded, but at the same time I felt that he would, he is too influential to be ignored. His name will go down in history.
ОтветитьThis snippet is brilliant. I feel like i want to memorise it......at least i will listen to it over and over. I would not listen to the whole debate because i'm sure it would be a matter of casting pearls before swine ( no disrespect intended)
ОтветитьI'm liberal and I fully agree with Jordan Peterson for the longest time, if this is what being liberal has become, well fuck being a liberal now
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