Jay Smith Debunks Mathematical and 19 "Miracle" of the Quran

you should have added the reply.

Gotta love Jay Smith!

I don't see any computers there. Without a computer you cannot debunk miracle of 19.

This Jay Smith is a joke. Now he's acting like he's some sort of mathematician. He's known for lies and preaching hate.

You only need to know one thing about Islam. Mohamed believed it was a DEMON who spoke to him in the Cave. He wanted to kill himself because he though he was possessed. It was his WIFE, who wasn’t in the cave, that convinced him it was god. That’s all u need to know about Islam. Mohammed was right, it was the Devil.

Grest speaker as always.
So clear.

I'm tired of listening to smith full of lies caught several times lying. Why on earth will I waste my precious time with someone who said publicly that I WANT TO SEE ISLAM BEEN DESTROYED. he is ready to lie to the core. Please forget this hate preacher and proceed in life. No amount of evidence can convince this dude. He is just like the uncle of the PROPHET. ABU LAHAB= JAY SMITH

You cut the response of the other party and call it debunked? Bigotry well played! I just watched the full debate, and Jay is pretty well destroyed in that debate. You are as big a bigot as he is.

Jay kept saying the old manuscript, yet he is not a scholar of the manuscript. The scholar even non muslim understood the changes or defective script. Some are just considered memorization script which mean memorizer only writes notes to remind them of certain verses. Thats why there are lots of erases, overlaping text and some short. The reason we dont have manuscript at the time of muhammad is because people were poor and cant afford papyrus , some did but papyrus only lasted so long.

The truth is... there is no such thing as verses in the quran
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U did all the talking Wich is dot make sense.u should let the other guy talks to.

Ones you don't believe.u will not belive even if GOD show himself to us.why don't u exam the holy book of QURAN with a mathematics miracle.

I think he don't understand..
he debunk an arabic word with an english word..

Quran is not an english dude, the english one is called translation.
Don't compare quran with a with other book, because quran is not a book.

Quran is quran, word of God.
It can be represent by recitation, memorize or script..
A book that have quran writen inside it, called mushaf..
The quran it self, is the word, by any means the word that people can recite. memorize and write..

LMFAOOO IDK what I'd do with this if it were MY bible... take versus out just willy nilly....

Well..... what WOULD you do, since the catholic church took out many BOOKS from the bible, not just versus. This is so weird to watch one guy defend his man made book by claiming someone elses man made book was man made hahaha, This is awesome.

This stupid again misrepreasinting information .

Ahmed didat has explained it all in his book . This stupid did not provide any evedence .

🤣😂🤣😂🤣 You just try to deceive people, with only give Jay part video. If you see the video as a whole, it is very clear, Jay had weak argumentation there. Jay was debunked in that debate..... 😂😂🤣😂🤣
Why the christians apologetic always deceive people with bending the truth? Like what you did here, cutting the videos, and hidden the whole information. Of course you give the link, but what you did here, just try to deceive people. 😁😂🤣😂😁😂🤣

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Decieving video

U call this debunking ? LOL.. .the man asks why Rashad was the first one to discover? How is that even relevant ?! The point is that 19 and the miracle of the Quran is a fact. Jay smith is beating around irrelevant matters because he cant deal with the elephant in the room

Go and search for code 19. This system cannot be made by a desert dweller living in the 7th century. You will understand when you research.

The point is that the code is in universal language of mathematics.
You can easily witness the miracle by yourself since it is physical in nature.

The first letter of the word 'nineteen' is 361th since the beginning of the chapter (361 = 19 x 19)
and many more signs.

If we look at history, it is filled with many great controversies on who first discovered what. Did Lothar Meyer discover the periodic table first, or did Mendeleyev, did Antonio Meucci discover the telephone first, or did Graham Bell, etc. Even though these are all documented cases, we can't conclusively say with certainty, that this false prophet was indeed the first person to stumble upon this 19 phenomenon, because it is definitely possible, in fact quite probable, that someone else noticed this 19 phenomenon before. And we also shouldn't forget that many important books were destroyed in various wars throughout history, sometimes quite intentionally. So those books aren't documented now for us to read, but their destruction is...

Having said all this, even if, this crazy false prophet douchebag was the first to discover the 19 phenomenon in the Quran, it doesn't make it not true. Did this idiot use lies and manipulations to strengthen his claims, apperently yes. But that doesn't change the truthness of the things he said that weren't lies, and the truthness of other stuff discovered later on by other people regarding 19 in the Quran. In Surah Rahman, it is written how when the waters of 2 different seas meet up, they don't get mixed up and they are seperated by a barrier, a boundary. This is indeed a scientific fact we can openly observe today between 2 seas. Let's say I was the first person to discover how this statement which science verifies today, was miraculously revealed 14 hundred years ago. If I then used this discovery of mine to build various lies upon, and to deceive people by falsely calling myself a prophet, would that change the truthness of my initial discovery - that a scientific fact we know today, actually lines up with what was mentioned 14 hundred years ago in the Quran? Of course not... The same thing goes for the 19 phenomenon in this situation. When you seriously look at the math, there are indeed irrefutably astounding stuff. And let me repeat, we don't know for certain, that this was the first guy who discovered it. So the 19 phenomenon is real, even though the guy who may have been the first to discover it, was a lying douchbag...

Jay Smith will go to extreme lengths to continue is polemic acts. May God give him guidance and rid him of his distorted bias and hate. Anen

It is not a "debunk".. Just crowling not to accept the truth.. Like a real hater..

@ Hz. Muhammad's (s.a.v) life hidden in the Qur'an (Hz. Muhammed'in Kuran'da gizlenen ömrü)(571-632)

Where is the guys response to this clown? They only show the clown giving his one sided view,,,

You don't do it to the Bible because it's already been done so much

Blunder there. It doesn't say so the Muslims can convince the disbelievers, but god is saying so that he can increase faith in the believers,
Allah is saying the disbelievers will question it and reject it while it increases faith for the believers.

They claim that Allah is a mathematical genius if so then It must follow the law of nature which is also mathematical. But no if it does that then how the miracle would happen. You abuse maths and science to prove that Qur'an is Good. But it defies every law of physics and maths.😂

That’s not true you just put the questions why you didn’t put the answers ??

Jay smith really 😂

He’s not praise because he claimed to be the new rasul & that’s wrong

SHAME ON YOU, Whoever put this channel up is VERY MISLEADING!
Why did you not put the full video to let the viewers hear the answers to this guy’s accusations and questions?
This guy does not know what he is saying and making false claims and accusations and I’m certain if we heard the response from the other side we would clearly understand his lies! If you want to hear the truth look up Ahmad DEEDAT visual miracle Quran
he will explain it clearly

The term “day” ( يوم ) in the singular form occurs 365 times in the Quran, which equals the number of days in a single solar year. The plural forms “days” and “two days” occurs 30 times which is the average length of a solar month.

Baháʼu'lláh gives various interpretations of the letters "alif, lam, mim", mostly relating to Allah, trusteeship (wilayah) and the prophethood (nubuwwah) of Muhammad.

Personally, the Quran does have such patterns, and to claim a false prophet made that up is funny considering your gospels contradict each others and have clear theological agendas behind them, like in John, Simon being erased from the scene to evade the "Simon substitution" controversy that was around (for obvious reasons), or Jesus Barabbas, in Matthew, his name being removed and his title not translated (Barabbas means "son of the Father"), considering he was save from the cross it makes sense that the gospel scribes erased his name... obviously they didn't want people to know the author was in doubt or that he recorded a legit ambiguous event.

Now, the issue with Rashad is that he claimed to be the messenger of the covenant, and then he made false prophecies, like the one about the King of Saudi being the last of his family to rule...

I am a Quran alone believer, and tbh if i'm wrong may God guide me to accept him, but i think there is a reason God said Muhammad peace be upon him is the last Prophet.

A messenger can be a human passing down what he received from another... technically then it's impossible for a Prophet 1400 years ago to be the last messenger in that sense.

Messenger of God, that's another deal... depending on the definition you go for, then we will not get any more messengers from God, or perhaps we will...

I'm afraid tbh since receiving a messenger is a huge test.

I mean, the j3ws rejected Jesus, and the Christians rejected Muhammad (even tho they got more evidence for him btw)

Anyways, read the book by yourself, and just be honest and pray to God alone for guideance.

There is no way God won't answer you, if you just call to God by his definition you won't accidentally call anyone else... let's be real.

But you must be sincere, and you must also use intellect, your God given reason.

And again, the mathematical aspect of the Quran, which is not only the 19 thing anyways, is not but only one aspect of the book, there is historical evidence that it did not copy the Bible but it does correct it, because the author knows what is hidden and what is expressed.

But believe what you want, if God had willed, all would believe, so will we force anyone then to believe?

Peace

What would Jay do if they took verses out of his Bible.

Exactly what he did when it happened.

Lol

May God guide us all.

The proofs are also reflected in the holy Bible as per # be-ginning. 6 and 1 it is based upon, of all things "half" a twenty four hour period we see as a day is no doubt "half light" in a perfect material cycle. The first day was from even-ing till morn. These ideas limitless not limited. In our material even-ing of things is always followed by material mourn. The evening is not void of light re=flected. re-flected light represented prominently through lunar the re-flected light being a "half light " offering. The full light offering is of day solar. Both are important in terms 1/2 of whole understanding. In six there is one complete tri set 123 this set has 5 re-fectives (5 important) 1/2 is also .5 ( The Divine only works in wholes not parts.) Materially we see reality in parts. These 5 reflectives are 132, 213, 231 ,312, 321 You may notice that the last re-flective 321 is re-verse from the first (this as per verse: to turn, 180 degrees or1/2 time) Time materially seen through ten deacons of 3 and 6, 360 in total) Now an example of how 5 continues to play out these six total re-flective tri-sets now interact in a manner that re-veal all verities. Material or otherwise.
The first added to the fourth 123 +231 totals 354 The whole portion of lunar time through the re-flective 6 days where the day is measured from evening til morn. The re-flected 1/2 light portion. The whole story like Paul Harvey always said is the "rest' of the story". The rest be-ing 1
1 and 6 totaling 7
7 like six has just one tri-set re=flective 124 Just as the simple math was done in relation to the 1/2 light portion of day from evening til morn to reveal the lunar aspect, so the math works in relation to the Source light re-flection from 1 if interested do the math and share your findings. Here are the re=flectives 124, 142, 214, 241, 412, 421 You no doubt can add the 1st and the fourth. and from what was offered in be-ginning the simplest offering re-veals exponential complexity infinitely beyond our current material understanding. This not in denial of the credibility of what human intelligence has been allowed to understand. All of it now exists as "context" in support of a "Promise that was always "complete" it just takes us a while to see it.

and where is a moderator that has credibility of letter and # in this language "Arabic"yet the Holy Bible has always presented the foundation for understanding what was presented within the Holy Quran (see offering below for a simple verity that exists there as connected)

Why didn't you add the answer into the video? You, son of the satan...