The BEST Shape for a Speaker REVEALED

The BEST Shape for a Speaker REVEALED

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Patori Lim
Patori Lim - 17.09.2023 06:21

Interesting. This would have been more understandable if you had comparison speakers to demonstrate your theory. Logically, what your saying makes sense but just like telling someone about how a roller coaster feels, they have to see, hear, and feel it for themselves to understand. 👍😎

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Charles Oliver
Charles Oliver - 13.09.2023 15:39

Wow... There sure are a lot of speaker designers/engineer/experts commenting on this video😂

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Jeremy Lindemann
Jeremy Lindemann - 21.08.2023 07:56

This is all a technical perspective but now I would like to hear what these differences sound like in the real world.

In my limited awareness it seems like most of the speakers I've ever seen have centred drivers and sharp, square shapes as well as sharp edges. Are most speakers bad?

Would it be good design to have soft sound absorbing material on the front of the speaker, or at least something around the edges?


I did find this video interesting. I'm currently trying to figure how to make proper box design for some very small drivers which I'm repurposing from an old Bose desktop speaker system (the companion 2 series II).

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Cory Marcotte
Cory Marcotte - 27.06.2023 04:42

So if the sphere is best. Why is it so rare. Orbs are the only ones I can think of.?

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Tv Time
Tv Time - 20.06.2023 01:23

Who can HEAR edge diffraction? Especially in untreated rooms?

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GiantSlug
GiantSlug - 12.06.2023 20:18

So my Cones of Dunshire speakers are okay?

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GiantSlug
GiantSlug - 12.06.2023 20:07

But.. the pipes. The pipes are calling.

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DJ Ash
DJ Ash - 18.05.2023 18:58

Talk about the Cerwin Vega Earthquake speaker design

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Just here watching you
Just here watching you - 17.05.2023 16:46

There’s a golden ratio in the cookbook lol can’t remember what it is

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derekiwi
derekiwi - 15.05.2023 01:41

When I was first working, so that is in the 1970’s, a workmate of mine built speakers he claimed had the best design possible. I do not know what was inside, but they were a fiberglass sphere. And I have to say, they just had something in the sound they produced.

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Mikko Rantalainen
Mikko Rantalainen - 14.05.2023 23:07

Here's an easy tip: when you are looking at a speaker and find Genelec logo, you know it is good.

Joking aside, you should look at the Genelec 8000 series speaker for an example of nearly optimal basic design.

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RahKo
RahKo - 13.05.2023 22:58

Minion speaker

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Tazzz
Tazzz - 12.05.2023 19:32

Its called a football in every coutry beside few...cause you hit the ball with your foot, thats also why all people around the world are confused why you call american football - FOOTball, but you play it with hands.

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Shawn/IO
Shawn/IO - 12.05.2023 14:11

soon as I see the person selling something in a store I never watch this channel again

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Wet Doggo
Wet Doggo - 10.05.2023 13:57

Americans are weird😅
"Football is obviously played by holding the not ball shaped ball in your hands and running across the field"

And what's the game you play with your feet?
"Obviously that's soccer"

😂 Wtf

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FlummiVomWELTALL
FlummiVomWELTALL - 10.05.2023 11:45

opinion on the OB-4 Magic radio?????

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begun cowball
begun cowball - 10.05.2023 09:27

b&w 802?

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David Urry
David Urry - 10.05.2023 09:05

Not generally someone who ever cared about this...until I bought a Tesla. Am constantly blown away by the sound quality. I mean, I listened to music as a kid. My brother was a notable musician and when I hear songs from my childhood in the Tesla. Wow! Totally appreciate the sound quality and it has me asking...how do they do that?

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Art wuss
Art wuss - 09.05.2023 22:15

Soccer ball for sorcerers counting in gallons.

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Gaston glow
Gaston glow - 09.05.2023 22:02

had this idea many years ago. didnt know much but made a fiberglass enclosure with a styrofoam ball to try it. as i didnt know or have the tools to measure it. i left the project (was around my early 20s).maybe should give it a go again.

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Wildfire
Wildfire - 09.05.2023 20:46

Diffraction is not very important.

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amooseish
amooseish - 09.05.2023 19:52

Any front firing speaker sounds terrible. The right design is as close to a point source as possible. And the cabinet itself must be acoustically isolated.

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John Colley
John Colley - 08.05.2023 14:25

have you heard the old Sonab OD11's? The tweeter is NOT in an enclosure.

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John Weiss
John Weiss - 08.05.2023 03:34

a cylinder will not have any diffraction if the speaker is as wide as the cylinder.

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Tess Tickle
Tess Tickle - 07.05.2023 10:05

nice and very informative video ive seen in such a long time.. thanks yt recommendations

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scorp NZ
scorp NZ - 06.05.2023 21:05

This vid may explain why 2" tweeters in a block of polystyrene with a single wrap of duct tape for added wall strength,then both speakers wedged into the corners of my ute dash against the windscreen sound so good vs in a door,(didn't think a door would be the best place since woofer was there just lower, that & cutting non std holes). I figured at the time sound bounced of the angled glass (dash is angled as well) would be a good option, however for whatever reason the placement of hung low woofers & high mounted tweeters blends the sound really well better than i ever thought as in the end putting tweeters there was just easier lol .I was expecting high pitch & not very good however it was the perfect place for them.

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Mehmet Turker
Mehmet Turker - 06.05.2023 03:54

... thank you sir! a very critical point discussed very successfully here.

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rob-roy beattie
rob-roy beattie - 05.05.2023 23:09

snore!

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SuperSl0th
SuperSl0th - 05.05.2023 19:42

No, a sphere is not the best enclosure. These decades old graphs made by Olsen are made up! You will not find reliable measurements that confirm his assumptions.

A sphere also diffracts, just not as sharply at one singular point in space.
However for anything that does not have constant directivity, which covers basically everything without a properly designed waveguide, you should not design the cabinet such that the soundwaves have to bend (diffract) around the cabinet very close to the source, where the level is the highest.

Rather you should keep the point of diffraction further away with a flat baffle and then have a large enough roundover on the edge, which is frequency dependent of course.
For a sub and midbass: Don't bother.
For midrange and tweeter: Get as much roundover as possible.

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Darren Murrey
Darren Murrey - 04.05.2023 20:04

That explains why the Adam a7x has the slanted corners. Really want a pair one day

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Prashanth B
Prashanth B - 04.05.2023 19:06

Thank you sir for that quick tip on diffraction.

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TheChzoronzon
TheChzoronzon - 04.05.2023 00:19

"Linkwitz nods"

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callmebigpapa
callmebigpapa - 03.05.2023 15:44

How is diffraction with horns?

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Linked Devices
Linked Devices - 03.05.2023 15:27

A sphere is the best shape for a mono speaker. Try making them stereo image. See if it's possible to create a 3D sound field. Here's the thing, a speaker on axis clear of walls directed at you can be a great center speaker or a great mono speaker. Split the speaker into a stereo image and suddenly now the ideal speaker must account for lateral stereo sum roll off just like two drivers, or a main an a sub have to transition evenly.

2 spheres can't produce a 3D stereo image. All it can do at best is pan left and right and pass mono speaker tests.

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Mike B
Mike B - 03.05.2023 02:23

Interesting.

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Lost Dragon
Lost Dragon - 03.05.2023 02:18

please stop all typing button sounds while spoon-feeding text

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Eliut
Eliut - 03.05.2023 01:51

Nautilus... can you explain that?

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radstronaut
radstronaut - 02.05.2023 17:58

It seems that this principal is seen most concretely when looking at open baffle speakers. Some of these things have huge baffles for tiny drivers.

In other news, I’m just finding this channel. Excellent stuff - subscribed!

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JB
JB - 02.05.2023 13:54

Monkey Coffin Box size
RtR eviction series
Must be able to shake the neighbors paintings loose.

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Mr. Shark Tooth
Mr. Shark Tooth - 02.05.2023 06:47

Super interesting. Thank you.

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Leandro Pereira
Leandro Pereira - 01.05.2023 15:04

"I'll call it soccer ball because we are in America". This sentence contains 2 points of diffraction 😂

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Jacks Parro
Jacks Parro - 01.05.2023 12:33

In most cases the difference is 95% placebo. Playing those speakers in a room filled with "edgy" things and sound waves bouncing off the walls and ceiling diffraction is all over the place. There could be a difference when the speakers are played in an anechoic chamber but still the difference is undetectable by human ears. I would say this is some audiophile stuff people like to talk about.

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TokenTombstone
TokenTombstone - 01.05.2023 05:30

This video should be titled 'best shape for a speaker ENCLOSURE'. 0 info about best speaker shape.

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Péter Kiss
Péter Kiss - 01.05.2023 01:49

I didn't expect Seth Rogen explaining me speaker enclosure designs. 😄

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Pete O
Pete O - 01.05.2023 00:19

The best speakers i ever listened to were housed in concrete spheres.
They clearly weren't portable but they were so clear. Amazing.

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bengacz
bengacz - 30.04.2023 23:24

What about the "snail shell" shape?

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Ken Smith
Ken Smith - 30.04.2023 09:16

A point about different dimensions:
You also want to avoid numbers that are related to each other by fractions that use small numbers. For example, you don't want two dimensions where one is 2/3rds the other or 1/2 the other or 3/4ths the other. This is because the ripples in the frequency response curve for each distance will line up with each other at some frequency if you do that. If the dimensions are things like 7/12ths each other this doesn't happen as much.
When it comes to selecting a box's overall dimensions, you also want to apply the rule of making the dimensions not the same and not related by small numbered fractions. This is because of a second order effect that makes smaller but non-zero ripples in the frequency response.

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