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Great videooooooo!!!!
ОтветитьIt seems fairly logical that these small, tight-knit communities on iceland and greenland would convert very quickly, and that the religious landscape would be very monolithic, since there simply isn't enough people or space to create sufficiently isolated, independent communities.
ОтветитьTo answer your question why vikings settled western iceland first is because of topography. Eastern iceland has more ragged and mountainous terrain meanwhile west is more flat and has many natural harbors.
ОтветитьParadox, make Kazakhs update
ОтветитьThey should make the harbours in very cold regions like only work in certain months to represent like ice locked. Or like ship access is limited based on the season.
Ответитьa day will take 4 seconds to pass at full speed i just know it
Ответитьi just downloaded eu4 3 weeks ago.
kinda late to the party.
what is this now?
a new game?
or an update?
I would say southern part of island was still under the ice sheet during middle ages (I don't know but could be)
ОтветитьIf you can hold greenland trough the black death event it basicly means you will always be first into america as norway if you can afford it which is pretty great.
ОтветитьGreat video as always!!
ОтветитьGreenland could unironically have a lot of unique flavors centered around avoiding collapse.
Ответитьwe need map of china bru
ОтветитьIt was customary for Portuguese explores, and Spanish for that matter, to name islands and new land they discovered after the saint of the day this happened. With exception for most of the Açores (not S. Miguel) and Madeira.
ОтветитьIcelander here. There being lumber in Northern Iceland kind of makes sense since the North was not as majorly settled as other places of Iceland, although more than the South thanks to the Fish. But there were forests here that were all cut down here by the settlers who settled. I think it would be a cool event in the future for the resource to change later on as we deplete the last forests in the North (maybe change the resource to Fish) or maybe even make it possible to reverse history and save the forests (at a cost though through negative buffs or other things)
Ответитьits quite a strange feeling to see my islands (the canaries) with that much detail in a map game, we usually are represente by just a couple blobs with no real form to them. i really hope we get a releasable of some sort
Edit: As Ludi says the conquest of the Canaries started in 1402 in the western islands of Maxorata and Tytheroygatra (Modern day Fuerteventura and Lanzarote) but it took almost 100 years for the conquest to be finished, ending in 1496. Just for anyone interested. This also means that Cristopher Columbus last stop before the new world was still being conquered when he left from Gmara (Modern day La Gomera)
Fun Iceland fact: the largest land mammal before humans showed up was the Arctic Fox. That's right, no big herbivores.
ОтветитьThe canaries started in 1402 and it was fully colonize at 1496. So It was some resistance, and the mountains helps a lot.
ОтветитьThe South Coast of Iceland has far stronger winter storms. And is mostly glaciers and has a lot of toxic volcanic rock.
Also, the first human settlements were on the Eastern side but their settlements were destroyed by volcanic eruptions making Reykjavik the oldest surviving settlement.
if svinafell is the same location as the one where Svinfellinga saga takes place that is right west of Vatnajokull almost in the center of the inaccesible area in Iceland
ОтветитьTo my knowledge the Azores where visited maybe even colonized by the Norse first.
At least there are some articles floating around which talk about this topic, and IIRC there are some hints and evidence that it has been settled around 700 years prior to the Portuguese.
The ocean map is very logical.
ОтветитьLudi the harbor stuff just means how good the terrain and geography is for making a harbor, it has nothing to do with how important the area is. Genoa doesnt have the best harbor in the world yet the city and its merchants went all over the mediterranean. Theres a diff between political importance of an area and the geographic proclivity towards being a good deep sea harbor!
ОтветитьIf I conquer Greenland as Bosnia do the igloos become made of concrete?
ОтветитьGreenland coast is all fjords which are natural deep sea harbors.
Ответить"In a letter dated 1448 from Rome, Pope Nicholas V instructed the bishops of Skálholt and Hólar (the two Icelandic episcopal sees) to provide the inhabitants of Greenland with priests and a bishop, the latter of which they had not had in the 30 years since a purported attack by "heathens" who destroyed most of the churches and took the population prisoner." Wikipedia "History of Greenland".
There appears to be some argument that there is a relatively sizable inuit population scattered about Greenland and that Norse/Norwegien/Swedish/Danish population would kind of ebb and flow in population based on climate, ivory prices, pirate raid, native inuit raids, or assimilation into native tribes.
Inuit Spirituality should probably be the second largest religion in the region. The colonies would have most likely been primarily the religion of the land that they came from though.
finaly i can go colonial greenland
ОтветитьWhen EU5 releases Ludi will finally reveal that he is actually Sandu Ciorba
ОтветитьThere were at least 600 farms on Greenland as we have found the ruins and these were not 2 people farms for the most part, they were family affairs. There were much more than a thousand people living there. Walrus ivory was their main export which could make for an interesting mission tree since the Ivory trade is believed to have ended before 1400. That could mean a limited window to choose whether to go to Iceland or to the warmer parts of vinland, abandoning the greenlandic provinces entirely. From there maybe the new nation needs to attract settlers from the old world or has greatly decreased colonisation speed as well as various economic issues on account of the low, low population.
ОтветитьThe thing is If they do add Germanic paganism with that 1 diehard old fart who can revive his faith on Iceland and Greenland, but leave all of Rus' fully Orthodox because "there isn't enough sources" (there is even less of them for the germanic faith either), or replace Russian paganism (and lithuanian one for company) with the infamous "animism" it will be just a biggest L in Paradox history IMHO
ОтветитьLudi id love to see “1444 challenges” to honour the “abandoned” start date. Something like “by 1444 have so and so accomplished”
ОтветитьIceland have few trees cuz the vikings chopped every tree
ОтветитьThe land to the South of Iceland, literally has almost no arable, stable, safe land. Erruptions are frequent there, its just not a very hospitable part of an already inhospitable country! (Amazing country btw)
Ответитьtbh faroes, shetland and orkney should have their own culture together separated from norway - norn, by then there was a diffrence there and mainland norway (even if it was much more influenced then iceland and greenland)
about greenland there is literally no written confirmation of existence after 1408 (marriage of hvalsey) even if there is a danish cartographer called Claudius Clavus who supposted visit greenland in 1420, but last leaving claim is from 1534 from a icelandic bishop in skaholt (but that is just a claim)
Fun idea cultures should have buffs and debuffs to production depending on what climate they are European pops work worse in super cold/hot climates. You should have option to change that while reforming your culture. It will also make one culture harder money wise 😂.
ОтветитьI remember reading that when the Danish went over to Greenland centuries after losing contact a big part of what the crown wanted to do was convert their pagan brothers implying the crown of Denmark believed there to be a sizable Norse population. Now maybe that was BS but like if the Danes resettled the island with a major purpose being converting I think it would just make sense for them to add Norse in EU5 to Greenland
ОтветитьIcelander here, the thing is that Iceland at the time had a lot of syncretism between christianity and Ásatrú (norse pantheon) and it was definately not 100% catholic. I mean the existace of written works like prose edda (although written by a christian) proves that paganism was not forgotten in the 13th and 14th centuries. Although we can assume that the king of Norway would have somehow tried to consolidate christianity among his subjects. And at this start date Iceland had been a vassal republic for about 75 years. I wish we could get an Iceland civil war start date for ck 3. The age of the sturlungs which is how Iceland historically ended up a vassal of Norway. Also Iceland should be an oligarchic republic in both ck 2 and 3. It´s more historically accurate.
ОтветитьI believe Iceland had some woods, and then they chopped everything off
ОтветитьNorse Greenland, afaik, was very religious, very centered around the parishes, so i would suspect the norse share of population would be even lower than in Scandinavia
ОтветитьFirst thing i would like to See Ludi do is Colonaial Poland
ОтветитьWhen Ludi retires he's moving to Iceland
ОтветитьJa ja ding dong
ОтветитьDaily Tinto Talks needs to be a thing!
ОтветитьThe Azores Islands where uninhabited before the Portuguese arrived
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