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Yeah, make sure you check large data transfers, before you claim anything. I used to be a big Crucial fan, but the P5 plus sticks that I have just overheat like crazy, unless I run them in at least something like an Asus TUF enclosure. And that should be ridiculously overkill, since it's 146 g of metal heat sink. That's more heatsink than anything Crucial sells. So yeah, don't try to use these for backups. Try transferring like 700 gb, and see what happens. Most likely, it's going to get so hot, it's either going to dismount, or just fail. I don't know about the Samsung sticks, but that's common with all of them.
ОтветитьYup, some comments also raised some good points about IOPS and cache, etc.
I also have one external WD Black external but looking at the enclosure in this video and many out there, content creators won't get too far with it because the temperature goes over 50-60 degrees. This is why I have one with a heatsink enclosure provided with WD black. I also modified my own enclosure so it is more portable.
Great for those who need it for 10-15 minutes, but not the heavy content creators who plan on using it with big data or over 1TB and longer duration 1-2 hours.
You could get away with it for longer depending on usage but as expensive as 5TB are these days, not worth the risk on the sacrifice with durability or resillence. Nevertheless, great for a compact, portable approach and even more sturdy than carrying around a hard drive or bigger dimension formats like ssd.
On production, SSD has been the way to go and even utilising the cloud streaming storage. instead not the cheapest nor faster approach but versatile.
1 byte = 8 bit
ОтветитьThat is not the limitation of the drive or the enclosure. USB is the limiting factor, if you get a Thunderbolt enclosure, your bandwidth goes up to 40 gigabits. 10 gigabit is the bandwidth of USB 3 Gen 2 and USB 3 Gen 1 is limited to 5 gigabits a second. Also, not all prebuilt external SSDs are just a hiked-up price. Some offer IP rating, drop resistance rating and even thunderbolt certification which adds cost. Are they reasonable and fair? that is more of a subjective question and my personal answer is a no but then again I do not make a living out of it.
also 1 byte = 8 bits.
10gbps ≈ 1000MBs, 20gbps ≈ 2000MBs, 40gbps ≈ 4000MBs
ОтветитьHi Nick, just wanted to say, it is a really good video ! Thanks for making it for all the folks out there. I would just like to point out that there is still one big parameter to take into account: the speed your I/O can manage. Because having a faster external disk on I/O that cannot handle much than the previous one would be useless.
Cheers
And then there’s Gibibits and Gibibytes! (And kibibytes, mibibytes, etc). The ‘ibi’ means that instead of each level going up by powers of 10, it goes up by powers of 2. So a megabyte is 1000 kilobytes or 1000^2 bytes. A mibibyte is 1024 kibibytes, or 1024^2 bytes. So just remember that KiB, MiB, GiB are larger (but not by an order of magnitude) than KB, MB, and GB.
ОтветитьGreat video, unfortunately not ‚true‘ anymore! I have several SanDisk extreme external ssd‘s (1x 1TB, 2x2TB, 1x 4TB) and they give around the same read / write speed- but, and here’s the clue now - significantly cheaper. The 4TB version costs ~235€ (good deal!) vs. Samsung nvme ssd 4TB ~329€ + enclosure ~35€ (~364€) for that you‘ll get a 4TB + a 2TB SanDisk Extreme SSD!
Now speed difference you might think. There is none. You can get a better enclosure that actually supports faster transfer rates though, which will boost the speed up to 2-2.500 MB/s - but again, ~329€ (4TB Samsung nvme) + enclosure (that supports the speed! ~150€) = 479€
The SanDisk Extreme Pro (4TB, 2000MB/s Version goes for ~320€)
just start saying 1 byte == 8 bits. Who explains this by saying 1Gbps is 125 MBps?
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ОтветитьMy pc crashes when using a thunderbolt :)
ОтветитьTry Owc Envoy Pro FX 1760Mb/s
ОтветитьDid some testing & found out that some SSD draw more power than others ... so if you are the kind of person that wants to use SSDs to transfer files from & to Mobile Gear like phones or Tablets/iPads (iOS or Android) or even Prof. Cameras, you may want to avoid the Samsong Pro lineup and go for SSDs that use less power like the Corsair MP600 Core XT or similer (not the MP 600 PRO ... the Core XT)...
ОтветитьNVME drives for use as external drives need also enough IOPS and cache. If not as far as the cache will be full, the transfer rates will drop down to classic Hard Drive speeds. It depends of how much data you plan to move. Expensive drives like the Samsung and WD Black are mostly good, but this is a issue with cheaper ones.
ОтветитьUhhh SSD stands for solid state drive... 😈
JK great vid, thanks for the info
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ОтветитьIMHO its garbage now, slow and expensive.
Ответитьgreat video, you got a sub!
can I use these inclosures and NVMe's to run linux os on daily?
I am looking for something fast that can handle daily use consistently like an Os thanks
Can be able to get one of these and be able to transfer 512gb worth of pics from my iPhone to the ssd and what would you say the transfer speed be like. I’m looking into gettin a tuf enclosure and a crucial p4 4tb nvme.
ОтветитьIs this your second name .
If kandell Jenner married u she became Kendall Kendall 😂😂😂
Thanks for the gigabits ps vs. mb ps. explanation: That's had me confused for a while!
ОтветитьBoth the Samsung Ts and Sandisk extremes are made of nvme drives themselves 😂 a tiny bit of change is physical dimensions, this is super amateurish to recommend something jus becoz it is cheap sir
Samsung drives like the 900 series peak up to 4gbps r/w(last I checked) and there is no external enclosure in the market to support those speeds. My extreme pros on paper support 2gbps(dual channel usb-c) which most laptops don’t support resulting in a 1gbps max speed
The Uni is a terrible design, don't think it could get any cheaper than that. It slides in the enclosure and I highly doubt that that thermal tape makes proper contact to the case.
ОтветитьHas anyone ever made a RAID 0 drive with 2 or 4 SSD modules? If so, did it get speeds closer to the 40 Gbps that Thunderbolt 4 promises?
ОтветитьDoes this work on ipad pro m2? Hope you can reply
ОтветитьPrefer getting a 40Gbps ones instead of 10Gbps. These will bring a dramatic difference.
ОтветитьAny video about cheaper hdd for longterm storage?
ОтветитьJust for creators ?
ОтветитьI have some decent enclosures for my NVME drives. None are 40gbps but those enclosures are for those with usb4. If you don't have usb4 it is pointless to spend the extra money for the faster external drives. Im glad there are now 4t drives available that run decent speeds. Now to get an enclosure that will handle 4 of them at once for my desktop external drive. I have decided to keep my external drives for photo/video only. Saves space on my internal drive.
ОтветитьThis drives run so hot... how can I keep them cooler?
Ответить$100/GB (without price of enclosure) doesn't seem cheaper to me, compared to, for instance, the .Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB NVMe M.2 for $96.. But I'm just another broke dummy, what am I missing?
ОтветитьSSD drive? Solid state drive drive?
Ответитьwould this be a suitable for backing up my entire PC? I need something to transfer it onto another Laptop. (windows)
Cheers.
If you run a NVMe drive at 20% of it's speed capacity won't it be less prone to over heat?
ОтветитьI currently store my file libraries on an external HDD. I am interested in transitioning to an external NVMe drive. However, one issue with SSDs is that when copying a large amount of files to another drive, initially, the speed is high, but it later decreases significantly, falling below that of an HDD, which maintains a consistent speed.
Have you had a similar experience? Can you transfer all files from one SSD to another with the same high-speed performance throughout the process?
By the way, I have the same SSD on my laptop :)
Also make sure you get a proper cable that has high transfer speeds
ОтветитьBrother ! How do we know that these Drives will work externally in a laptop 10 years Old ?
ОтветитьThank you very much, & I appreciate your knowledge! :)
ОтветитьCool, but it only supports up to 10 Gbps. Could we get an enclosure that could yield speeds closer to 40 Gbps?
Ответитьok so its very aparent you have not head of thunderbolt drives as these are far faster externale setups then any 3.2 usb c drive is so yes your wasting your money on all the nvme drives your putting into 3.2 usb cases and your a mac user and should know this stuff already so why are you wasting your money on junk slow drives when you can have the power of thunderbolt drives that you can also build your self and hit speeds of 2700+ MB/s also 40 MB/s drives cost as little as 120.00 cnd dollars for the case and the ideal drive to put in it is express 4.0 7kx6k NVMe which gets you to the 2700+ i have tested 3500x3000 nvme drives express 4 and they run to slow in the thunder bolt case so the 7000x6000 is what you need to get 2700+ x 2700+ speeds , again if you tested this your self you would know this and also you would not be using 3.2 drive cases with nvme at all and there are the side affects to 3.2 that your for saure not aware of either but youll learn in time iam sure..
ОтветитьJust want to say this was a really well presented video, you gave us all the info and made it clear what you did and didn't understand and explained things without giving any incorrect info
ОтветитьI'm looking to replace my 2tb ORICO M.2 Enclosure build with a Samsung 980 Pro nvme with a 4tb option. The nvme best priced are the crucial P3 and
WD BLACK SN850X 4TB housed in a thunderbolt enclosure, that's supports that size. My shortlist is a newer orico enclosure or one by ocasis or yottomaster. Still researching what to buy as cost is approaching £500
Nick Kendall...Thanks Much !.......
Ответить70 to 80 MB per second is slow for an HD.. thats because thats a 2.5 inch hdd and I would avoid those. Also you should NOT use those tiny enclosures for editing even with the thermal pad. It gets hot it will fail. These are great for transfering data. They are not for all day edit use. You need a unit with cooling or at least much much better airflow.
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