QING are the RICHEST and BIGGEST nation in VICTORIA 3

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Why did the kids you went to school with sound like Alan Partridge

"Even man, woman, and child must fight."
- Laith probably

For the future video in Victoria 3, where Laith does not ban opium, but goes protectionism, and then make large tariffs from that selling of opium

So I had a game recently where Great Britain didn't start the opium war after I banned opium. I then said we take thoes lol.

Lathe: Can I get rid of Qing Tonsk
Me: Do you mean by mass genocide?

In my playthrough as Qing I never banned Opium, just became the leading producer and Britain couldn't do shit to me xD

Vicky 3 got modded fast because it leaked early and the modders built upon the leak. xD

This explains the Communist Party...

Opiates are truly awful.

Why don't you sort in the market view, it pisses me off lol

is this the grand edition or is it the normal edition of the game

An easy recognition:
Built construction then university to maximise RP. some paper/iron mine/wood/admin building and weapon factory (put artillery in priorities).
Research at the begining : only military and get infantrey line and mobile artillery, upgrade only active bataillon not the garnison (import the need). Try to pass professional army law.
Recognition coup against usa, they often capitulate befor the war (30/50 bataillon against 475+) . If they go to war, just wait, they will attempt some naval invasion that you can easily destroy. built you economy (wood/paper/admin building/iron/tools). You can becoming a gp in 1839/40 like that.

For the opium war: save befor make a choice for the first event. Confront england if they don't react you can ban opium and wait 5 years. If they reac, increase relation with russia and got a defence pact with them, then ban opium for 5 years.

I wonder if all of states will be incorporated at the end of the video.

Very interesting, this has made me realised why the current Chinese people and their government do not trust the west and aimed to become an economic, manufacturing and military superpower. What happened to them over 100 years ago has shaken them to the bones. The only way for history not to repeat itself is by getting strong.

I actually think victoria 3 has a ton of potential, people are just being toxic and entitled. Viccy 2 is hardly an example of perfection either xD

Really like your vids just subbed. Great message at the end, people really need to chill out when it comes to games. People are terminally online and have no grasp of reality or what's actually important so they build their identity around specific games and when (In mmo's) the game dies or a sequel isn't as good as people think they have an actual mental breakdown.
If you don't like a games, give constructive criticism and wait for changes or play something else it's not complicated.

And another trying to gaslight the criticism of the game and its flaws as 'oh its just the old vic 2 crowd', as someone who never played the previous game in the series, this is very much an EA ripoff that should not have been released in this state.

I prefer livestock ranches for fertilizer early game as it gives you meat as well

Love the bit a little after 28m where he essentially translates Malthus into game mechanics.

the thing is China is so big that your internal market probably self-sufficient all the way to late game where you need rare resources like rubber and oil only then you kind of relucantly expand in south-east asia... and most your money problems can be fixed by improving taxation in your provinces and some of those provinces alone in size equal to major european powers. You just need to survive the first ten years of the game before industrialization kicks in and after that you'll be able to fight the entire world by yourself

I found the opium war to be incredibly easy. i even got caught off guard and the english invaded beijing without me noticing and took a decent amount of land. I mobilized everything and held the front line with everything apart from one general and naval invaded my own land and cut off their access to the ocean. and they insta-capitulated.

bro really was getting robbed and didn’t care

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You missed a great opportunity to summarize the Opium War as thus:

China wanted to ban Opium because it was harming their society.

Then the British announced that they were joining the War on Drugs... on the side of the Drugs.

"Stop lathing yourself", researches lathe "Stop lathing yourself", researches lathe "Stop lathing yourself", researches lathe "Stop lathing yourself", researches lathe

France becoming an insanely rich consumer economy that can beat the Brits, Russians, Americans, Germans, etc. all just by taxing imports in the 1800s is hilarious.

hey laithe did you know they put you in the game????

played as Prussia and formed German get my gbp up to 120 million and find my neighbors France has 300 million gbp then I can no longer defeat them once more

Those trade deals for 10 units of goods when you're missing several hundred are sure gonna help...

Why is British Raj still called 'British' Raj if the Qing is in power?

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I've always heard lathe be pronounced like "bathe", and not like "lace with a lisp".

EZ Qing Start for Opium Ban = Military Service then Line Infantry, reform away from peasant levies ASAP, Improve relations with Brits from day 1 and France (Portugal is optional) when they place their Asia Interests, Ban opium when you have +10 relations with brits so when it drops after the banning of opium they dont instantly declare war.

France will sometimes join in your defense, Portugal often skips out on joining Brits whether you increased relations with them or not forcing the Brits to land themselves which mostly happens at Bejing and the trick is to push their front line back to the sea before the troops actually land there JUST after they win the initial naval invasion battle is lost. If that fails you simply do a naval invasion of your own cutting off enemy from the sea where they will now lose tons of men to attrition. You will win sometimes win the war outright and other times you will "lose" but will be able to peace out with only giving up war reps and securing a 5 year truce with brits which still lets you fulfill all the requirements you need as Qing to "win" the opium wars.

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Qing is too strong in the current version. AI Qing can beat AI Russia after 30-40 years in the game.

The opium addiction is too easy to remove, should be more of a challenge

1:50 Am I the only one who found that everybody seems to be lacking clothes? Like you can build an ungodly amount of textile-mills throughout the early to mid-game and they will always turn a profit.

I love the Vic3 content!

Try to make the best economy/nation (maybe even socialist) possible but in a one state country

I haven't finished the video yet, but i think your ideas about how to develope Qing in the early game is correct, you just need to reform your government to isolationism and agrarianism, then you massively built up your government administration buildings, you will then see that your income start sky rocking like nut. From my hours of Qing experience start industralize this old dynasty right away feels rather lackluster. Although it's good to start spending money on industry early on, you'll find your self spending more and more and way more money than you initially thought, it also doesn't help that you usually need to raise taxes on the people inorder to industralize, which hearts the economy in one way or another.

In my China game I just embraced the regular sol decreases and built my economy around opium exports lol

I find being aggressive is great for qing. I usually puppet burma and japan as soon as possible, that makes you quite a bit more powerful, when you also puppet siam and the neighbors you will have so many troops that nothing is an issue anymore. Plus, you add them to your market and you provide plenty of resources for them to industrialize so you will raise all of asia with you. I wouldn't care about taking their territory since you have no need for more population, land or soldiers, you have plenty and would do better with just getting their tribute and investing it in your own lands whilst leaving them to whatever it is they do.

i think edgar suffolk just started speaking slowly and loudly to the british and they realized that india was chinese after all.

where the people trying to climb over your fence equiped with bin burning tools? i feel like we were very close to solving one of the great mysteries on the channel.