Jordan Peterson: The victim mentality

I love this!

I’m tired of my schizophrenia. I keep getting destroyers by it. I wouldn’t call it schizophrenia however due to this video

These were better days for Mr. Peterson. Since this talk- and in reviewing his latest journey into utter madness and addiction…he has seemingly forgotten his own advice here. Maybe there is a lesson to be learned here… a warning of what can happen to your soul if you become an oblivious sophist - forgetful to your own teaching….

Pinocciho ..... the victim mentality plays a role..... leads to not taking responsibility.....

Let's first talk about the perpetrator mentality, something that stoics do have...

Meaningless scribble AKA ‘BULLSHIT!!!’ 😂😂😂Narcs…

Also what i learned about victim mentality and double mindness is that it’s some parts of the stigma when born out of wedlock
I was born out of wedlock through (Christian seed + Atheist womb)

If I have to ask are you victimization?

No-🤥

Oh ok.

So don't bother asking obviously.

Life is never that simple, and it never will be. When one person becomes God and doles out mercilessly wicked hands ! This is cause for complaints. Who When unjustly treated, iwill remain quiet ??? Is there any persons that except JESUS???? stupid 💩

I would love to sit and listen to Jordan Peterson for an entire semester. How lucky his students were. He is one of our most cogent modern thinkers.

Wow. This is so eye opening. I know people who do exactly what he’s talking about and how much they miss out on life and joy.

I'm not going to criticise the concepts explained by the speaker which you can agree with or not. The pointy is that this part of the story is completely made up since the original story in Italian is completely different.

How can a manage my relationship with my sibling that suffers from Victim Mentality?

After being "discarded" by a friend with Peterson's book on 12 rules for life on their shelf as they demonstrate a COMPLETE LACK OF ABILITY TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY, it is very emotional for me to hear this speech. Peterson is right in that taking responsibility is one of the best ways to "empower" yourself, or feel like you matter. And the clear lack of taking responsibility while hiding behind a facade of reading Peterson's insights and being an insightful person is such a manipulative move that I wish none of you ever experience such dissonant relationships.

Profound!

Having a parent with this….

Meaning and responsibility are 100% correlated. I’ve seen the truth of this in my own life and in the lives of those I’ve interacted with. The nihilists are always on a pleasure seeking downward spiral who can’t take responsibility for their lives, why would they when it has no meaning? Go a step further and those are the same people that deny they feel anything about anything. They’d have to accept responsibility for that too. I love JP. ALWAYS on point.

responsibility = meaningfulness

I wish I'm just a cow nothing but eating grass and moooo all day long

I agree with all of this and it's well said. The issue that I have (and I'm genuinely looking for a response of any kind here) is the way that he has spoken in other lectures about people in their thirties "or, God forbid, your forties!" who are basically fucked as far as he is concerned if they have not grasped his concepts by that point. As a forty year old man, his tone comes through to me as him basically saying, "there's no point in trying. You're a loser" which, ironically, is the message that my mother communicated to me from grade 1. So basically, I'm grappling with the question of whether I agree with what he is saying because I was a kid who was traumatized by a parent who used excessive force in her attempt to pass on the exact message that Peterson is delivering here (i.e. trauma-bonding). I dunno, I like to believe that I'm over-thinking it and maybe I'm painting myself as being more corrupt morally than I actually am. Just thought I'd throw this out there to see if it resonates. [To clarify, the trauma that I believe I experienced was a result of a parent taking these theories of the victim mentality to such an extreme that, as a child, I was not allowed access to any awareness of my own handicaps and was consequently tricked into thinking that my clear-and-present academic/social/mental problems deserved punishment. As such, the term "enabling" doesn't feel right when describing how I was taken care of by my parents because it always felt begrudging with an undercurrent of disdain... and with a little bit of munchausen-by-proxy syndrome sprinkled in for fun. Thank you for reading]

If you believe the Bibleis true it helps immensely. Once you understand the overwhelming theme in the Bible it is “you’re bad things will turn out for good, you’re good things will never be taken away, and the best is yet to come”

“All things work for good for those who love God and are called according to His purpose”

Please understand there are very bad things in this world, but for those who know Him even those bad things He (all knowing, all powerful) will work out for an eternal good.

Consider our suffering in this world temporary.

This is such garbage I can't even begin. Peterson misses the bus on this one. I have liked some other of his lectures but this one is a barker.

Ever since I discovered that I had a victim mentality I make every effort not to put myself in situations where I feel victimized. It starts by putting myself and needs first then taking accountability for my life. I have all of the power.

where can I watch the full lecture of this? This is fascinating

I needed this

Why is he talking about black people?

Ah yes, the victim mentality. The last thing this world needs.

Jordan

There’s a certain culture in America that needs to hear this.

You guys shall pay

This is not done ✅
You guys rich people will pay

I am a peaceful person full of love ❤️ and you shall pay for thinking that poor people with good heart ❤️ don’t deserve to be rich
You guys only used us and kick us as garbage 🗑 trash

You guys will se myself in your ass... and will see the devil in your life ... as you never did before

Heaven is real and god is coming for his people but before that happen I will see you eating shitttt together with my people

All this rich people hurting and terrorizing my people
Using people like me to do their job for free ...

And for free you shall
Pay me and my family back with interest

A fraud mafia shitttt in internet service and apps
You guys using minors to get your ways ... criminals get ready ... no money will protect your ass.... no place to hide ... promise
I am the best promise keeper

I just want to make sure I get this. We have to take responsibility for ourselves but also it's still a good idea to learn specific risks factors that pave the way to poor choices , and to take the time to feel what we feel regardless and learn what we can and letting go. ...right ? Or anyone have a better way to understand this?

Their the ones playing the victims

That noob is fair.

I have stage 4 cancer but know of so many people who have survived stage 4 cancer implementing various lifestyle changes along with chemotherapy and other traditional treatments. I changed family doctors (for obvious reasons) but right off the bat and my new doctor initially tried to paint me as a victim. I don't fault him since it was frustrating for him to see how incompetent my previous doctor appeared and because we live in such a litigious culture that it actually pays to be a victim. However, most people who survive cancer don't dwell on how they've been wronged. They take the bull by the horn and advocate for themselves. If something doesn't work or a doctor doesn't want to do what the patient wants, the patient moves on quickly because, with cancer, time is of the essence.

Ty

I feel bad for people that have suffered serious trauma throughout their lives. Particularly childhood. Multiple nights without food. Beaten by drunken parents. Etc. I don't even know what to tell such genuine victims. But what gets me frustrated as heck is people who grew up in middle class homes with loving parents that act like they had it so bad off because they got yelled at for being bad or because they had to spend a whole 6 hours a day at school or because mom and dad didn't buy them the most expensive toy sold during Christmas. EVERYBODY has to go through those things! Yet they're always looking for someone else to blame. It's reasons like that Jordan had to give this lecture and Essential Truth had to post this video.

Question, are all the stories. Is there this much though behind the stories. Are is he READING INTO the story ?

Hey there, I feel like the state is enforcing this upon us, how can we end it?

Responsibility is the goal, but count the cost for each one you take on.

The victim mentality seems to be the entirety of the liberal ideology of late... Everyone's a victim these days, except for straight white males of course, they are all the devil.

Gish! If people stop claiming the victim..... what common interest type of conversations will they be able to have. All it takes is one person to get up on their soapbox, and you can have an entire room/building/.... enthralled into a meaningful (feeling) endless line of communication. Where everyone has their own interesting aspects about the exact same topic. It makes you feel good to express yourself. Even more when you feel connected to similar people.
It gives you something to talk about, without actually having to do anything about it. In turn will create the habit of claiming victim! Life is too tough for every single living being on this planet... to only complain about our issues.

Canada is becoming feminized.. Not good!!

Good lecture, I love this. Another good speech on this topic that has helped me a lot is “Be 100% Responsible” by Lynn G Robbins (religious).

You know someone is intelligent when they can continually say "I often wonder..." and make their wonders into a lecture.