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tbh I think the list is kind of nonsense, all these civs also have the same bonusses for champions except Italians who I would argue benefit the most.
The next civ with the biggest benefit imo are the persians simply because they do not even have two-handed swordsman
EDIT: Okay since goths do not have supplies, maybe them too
I think that they are good for Celts for the same reasons you give for Goths, Celts are vulnerable to gun units. In addition the speed means they will probably take fewer shots in practice from ranged units.
Ответитьtbh malian condos + malian UU seems like an OP combo where you can literally beat anything. if anything Malian condos weakness is primarily melee units which is the strength of malian gbeto. and both gbeto and condos have such insane movement speed they can run around , pick esay targets, raid , pressure the map easily and even take down TCS with how tanky condos would be to TC fire. and how fast they can take down TCs as infantry.
ОтветитьI really think that Burmese should be nerfed. It’s getting 3 atk free simply makes Aztec’s UT unfairly expensive and time consuming.
ОтветитьI’m at a place where I can’t do anything with Armenians but I’ve played them too much where I can’t do anything without them. I think the Armenians is easily number 1 on this list tho. 30 hp extra makes them well rounded for all situations and if it’s a 200 pop situation you want as much beef as you can get, goth only get plus 10 pop so the numbers advantage doesn’t necessarily exist unless it goes late late game but Armenians will have all relics plus 1 so… sorrry goth boys 🤷♂️
Ответитьcondo is primairly an early-imp unit, even if it has some value in late game too. At early-imp stage, it's harder to go for expensive upgrades, so imp UU has less value for me, even if it has some. Therefore, (that's only my opinion) I personally think that Burmese condo should rank higher than Aztecs'. And I'd swap Vikings above the Armenians.
Ответитьlmfao this auto loaded at 240p for me & I genuinely wondered why he was showing OG AoE game footage.
ОтветитьI really love unit team bonuses like this! Hope to see another one in future dlc.
ОтветитьReally surprised to not see malay up here. I feel like the early imp malay power spike is very useful. But understandably, SOTL isnt judging strategies, just raw numbersm
Ответитьspiritofthe conDawww
ОтветитьNgl, I didn't expect Goths at number 1. I expected Armenians.
ОтветитьI'm a bit confused of why Italian is in the list? I think it should be excluded
ОтветитьHere for the Japanese update vid
Ответитьtalkin about the 3way tie between Japanese, Azetec and Dravidians, it would've been cool to see the dps graph vs gunpowder units where the graph might be flipped since Japs would have the edge in faster attack speed
ОтветитьWaaaaaaaait a second!!! last time i checked the armenian tech was not affecting the condottieri!!!! Did they patch it? When?
Ответитьdid anyone else get his pun about steps?
Ответитьwhoa so youre not gonna see how they do against infantry? would be interesting to see if civs like teutons can just rock the condo solo without their champion line or ETK.
ОтветитьWrong. The top 10 Condottieri are:
10. DiGiorno's
9. Jimmy Falcone
8. Piccinino
7. Diavolo
6. Vito Andolini Corleone
5. Bruno Bucciarati
4. Hannibal Barca
3. Tony Soprano
2. Giorno Giovanna
1. Francesco Sforza
Aztec Military units are trained faster, so I'd put them slightly ahead of Dravidians and Japanese
ОтветитьIf you mix the Condottiero and the Huskarls together too much, you'll eventually just get a bunch of very angry Italian men running around with a shield in each hand blocking everything.
ОтветитьItalian Civ overview incoming
ОтветитьYeah, Goth supremacy!
ОтветитьLet's be real: was there any doubt that Goths would have the best infantry here?
ОтветитьFor me I would probably say Vikings adds the most important role, primarily because they don't have a good raiding unit, especially if there are hcs in the mix. Whereas even goths have serviceable cavalry, BBC, and even to a lesser degree huskarls, viking literally just have skirm and terrible light cav.
ОтветитьI must admit, it's kinda sad that Celts are such a BAD Infantry Civ for being labeled an 'infantry civ'. Movement speed is great but +15% with no Squires tends to run into 'okay, you're fast but you're not actually a Fast Unit, because you're not cavalry' and they don't have much more to their name there.
They are a civ I'd love to see get a redo to be better at their role.
I did not watch it yet but he gonna put Japanese in 1st, doesnt he
ОтветитьThis reminds me of the team slinging combo that T90 covered.
ОтветитьAs somebody that is always playing Italians, the Goth synergy is really crazy.
ОтветитьSorta glad Malians are #2. They don't draw attention to themselves which gives me hope that they won't be nerfed 😅.
ОтветитьDon't forget that Goth Condottiero look a lot like Huskarls, which helps in confusing the opponent!
ОтветитьPeople fighting against a Goth and Italian players might really considers strong melee fighter civ to win. Examples is jaguar warrior (both are unique units) and cataphract (both are infantry)
Ответитьwhat about your new site? spiritOfTheShield? or smth? :O
ОтветитьI love italians, favorite civ and super fun unique units!
ОтветитьOhh, another Italian review soon?
ОтветитьFor Dravidians, I think the bigger benefit isn't having an anti-gunpowder option but having a good raiding option. And the cost of the tech switch is relevant: Romans would benefit not just from the +1 melee armor, but also from not needing to research the last armor upgrade. Still nowhere near as good as Malians in quality (missing blast furnace is a lot less relevant if you're using it in an early imp situation where you can't afford blast furnace, and the bonus pierce armor gets the most important benefit of the armor techs). And Goths are easily the best (as they have civ bonuses replacing several infantry techs, significantly reducing the cost of switching into them - and the discount does make up for missing the last armor tech).
Also, Burgundian hand cannons do get 3 bonus damage against Condos, so Sicilians may still have a small benefit in condos as an anti-gunpowder unit (not that it's much of an impact - it just reduces the need for the Condo's bonus armor).
Top 10 about infantry: #1 is goths, always the goths.
But i wonder why anyone would make Condos when the Huskarl is just a better version of them.
Makes sense. The Goths are the #1 infantry civ.
ОтветитьWell technically in your tests, Goths Condottieros have most HP
23 Goths Condottieros - 1840 HP in total
15 Armenian Condottieros - 1650 HP in total
15 Generic Condottieros - 1200 HP in total
So who cares that some Condottieros can withstand more arrows or more armor, if you can beat them all with massive wall of flesh
also, condo basically huskarl but holds sword in different stance. so it makes hard to determine composition at a glance, enemy may think your units are mostly condos and engage with an archer group when in reality it was huskies the entire time!
ОтветитьOooo would be interested in seeing a similar video for who has the best Genitours and Imperial Skirmishers. I would think top 3 for Genitours would be Magyars, Mongols, Turks and top 3 for Imperial Skirmishers would be Dravidians, Mayans, Lithuanians but would be cool to see your take.
ОтветитьGoths only nightmare is scorpions
ОтветитьThe Kondoskarel may have 2 less attack, but the ability to ignore tower arrows makes them a pain in your base as they freeze your eco.
ОтветитьMy bet was on persians, as they lack even two-handed swordsman.
ОтветитьCan we take a moment to acknowledge the irony of Goths hiring Italian mercenaries?
ОтветитьI want a video measuring how good or bad is Berbers' villager bonus for economy
Ответитьhonestly, not so surprising, an infantry, getting more use in a civ specifically made to flood the arena with infantry.
ОтветитьHello guys, today he have a list of top Cinco condotierro
ОтветитьFor the vikings, I don’t see why you would ever elect to make condos over the bezerk. Unless you’re going against straight gunpowder, otherwise the berserk just is a better unit
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