Epson LS12000 Laser vs 6050 Bulb Projector Really Worth the Upgrade??

Epson LS12000 is no joke guys! You’re not gonna find anything else that comes close in comparison for the price.

For that size of screen, how close is LS12000 to the Epson EB-PU1007B?

Sir can u plss say What is the present height of the room including the screen height

I have the 6050 and thought about upgrading...but no 3d on the new ones

How far away was the LS12000 from the 170 “ screen please ?

Is that a 16:9 screen? If you put the 12000 on a 140in scope the image would pop

but dont you lose 3d I would keep the blub one so I could still watch 3d

Where is the Kaleidoscape undate setup? This is not looking to good for your Team.
Truly appreciate the video though!!!

Would you say 140 inches is too big or the sweet spot for the LS12000?

Uncle Larry, lol!

is 6050 in high lamp mode, and how many hours has the lamp run? is the 6050 in dynamic color mode? and has it been calibrated? what color mode is the ls12000 in?

re-run the test with a fresh lamp in the 6050..

This review sucks. You dont lets us know what setting the 6050 is at.

Hard to compare without settings(a lot options on Epsons),hours on lamp. Ls12000 is just 100 lumens brighter on paper. If you engage dci filter on ub6050, difference would be explainable maybe! In terms of difference: 2200€ price gap/difference here..
And the ub6050 is more in the back of the room as well (light loss)..ls12000 picture looks greenish compare to ub6050 here.

I’m looking heavily into the Epson LS for my next unit. Currently sitting with the 4010 and it still looks good. I just have a hard time justifying jumping from the LS to the JVC or Sony. This thing truly looks amazing!!

Impossible that 6050 is looking so dim. Its a light canon. Something wrong with the settings.🙄

Am i ret.... or does the 6050ub look like a 200 lumen ebay knockoff projector compared to the LS those UB settings must be way off thats either an upsale deal there or someones messed with the settings i mean come on

If Epson had made it 3D compatible, I would have purchased it.I think that's still the biggest advantage for projectors. No modern TV does 3D. And that extra brightness would have been perfect. Jvc and Sony still include it. Maybe the next Epson model.

Can you do a cheaper Ls800 vs a LS12000 to see if you can tell any major difference? I have the budget for both but a UST seems more convenient.

Adjust the settings. And make it brighter. Epson laser is OVERPRICED

For. Non native projection the LS12000 is really good and the colors really pop v. The Sony I would say it was a little washed with the black levels and not as sharp as the Sony.

I love my LS12000. When my wife and i were watching Dune we couldnt turn the light output above 75% or the bright scenes or explosions made us squint. Bang for the buck you really cant beat it.

I'm throwing money at the screen but nothing happens? !

I get it, 6050 is a great projector. All the guys that own it are trying to make themselves feel better that it’s as good as the LS1200, it’s NOT! 6050 best bank for buck projector period. He’s not here to calibrate this and that. He showed both real quick and I’m sure both can get better, but if you can’t see the Difference your crazy, but is it worth double the $$??

Maybe if you got it. Wonder if the 1100 is almost just as good as that price is a little more acceptable for us poor folk. I still may get 6050 (better deal and looks amazing) but a fresh bulb isn’t going to make it even with the LS1200. 6050 Is GREAT!!!! LS1200 is Greater and it should be for $5K!!!

That extra $2,500 may not be worth the difference to many. But LS100 makes it $1,500 more.

I have Epson 9400w (6050ub) but its not so dim as in this test. (Original lamp 500h).

I have spent time with both in direct comparison and I have to disagree with most. The new projector has many positive things - 120Hz gaming, newer, brighter perception and perhaps crisper. However, the 6050 displays differently due to the difference between bulb and laser. I prefer by far the light from a bulb over a laser since the laser gives up a LED tv effect when presenting the image on the screen. If you like the sharper image by all means the LS12000 but I bought the 6050UB because I like the image being closer to film and the natural light effect. I hope by the time I have to go laser it is like LCD tv's catching up to oled and they can give back the more natural lighting I prefer.

Which lamp mode and color mode on the 6050? You gave no insight into settings. Moreover we are looking via your camera which had a fixed iris set so no adaptaion like a human eye would do. Differences are exaggerated.

A bulb projector vs a laser but not knowing the hours on the bulb....dude!! lol I have an LS10000 here with 18,000 hours on it that might be a closer comparison to that bulb that is probably 3,000 hours.

Check it out:
Epson 2700 Lumen Sony 2000 Lumen,
Epson 7100:1 nativ Contrast after AVITECT Master Contrast Tuning 299 €, without 4000:1 - 4500:1 Sony 7000:1 - 7500:1
Epson Ansi Contrast 450:1 Sony 250:1
EPSON DCI 80 % Sony 95 %
Epson full automatic optic, Sony manuel
Epson 4K Shifting, Sony nativ 4K
All Calman checked..
So, it depends...

Settings would've been great to know. Was fun watching you play with blanking lol. Epson ditched 3D on their new models? I don't get why the F they would screw us like that? A-holes went tech backwards.

Do you recommend I go though Benq for replacement lamps ? Really hoping for insight hear thanks anyways.

The LS12000 looks so much better in this comparison. I have a 5040ub and I find that it struggles the most with HDR, the blacks just get washed out. I've now got madvr doing tone mapping for it and its a massive improvement. I've heard that the stock tone mapping on the 5040/5050 kinda sucks and it greatly benefits from external tone mapping. I'd be curious to see if the LS12000 is leaving lots on the table, and can be equally improved with external tone mapping, or if its sort of already a lot closer to ideal.

Unfair test..6050 should of had new lamp..I am now leaving your sight because of this..

Sir what is the room height

nice comparison just wish the LS12000 had the option to change lenses. I need to place my projector at the rear of the room so the LS has too short of a throw

@GridHifi What is the distance of the projector from the 170 inch screen

6050 should of had new bulb..unfair comparison..

How far away is the ls12000 away from the 170" screen?

would a fresnel screen brighter even in darkroom please?

This comparison is questionable at best. Bulb projectors do dim over time but to show how dim this bulb was without stating the number of hours on the lamp is suspicious. Also, where was the lamp purchased?

I prefer the color from the older 6050 technology.

That setup is perfect!

I have a Viewsonic 4K projector.and Compared it to a BenQ laser projector. The pic, color, brightness, sharpness was close to the SAME. You can adjust all the setting.

Which projection screen is that?

Awesome test thanks!!

Is the LS11000 similar in performance?