The Shocking Truth about PCIE 5.0 vs Gen 4 vs 3 SSDs!

why would i want an ssd that has heatsinks and fans? PCs are supposed to be electronics, not airplane engines

For when you do this again in the future. I recommend "Beyond All Reason" (RTS) for loading time benchmark. The reason being that whoever loads in and clicks first on a starting spot, gets the spot, so there's often a race for who can get the best spots (depending on the role they wanna have) and every fraction of a second counts, because you're not racing your own impatience but other people's load times (though us Linux'ers are cheats because for whatever reason, it loads SLIGHTLY quicker on Linux).
E2A: It's a free / open source game, so BONUS. Also, need to load the map once before benchmarking, because it pre-caches pathing information the first time, which about doubles the loading time.

Thanks for an entertaining, no nonsense, clear video! REALLY helpful...Just about to upgrade, so think I will go Gen4 and save ££ on Gen5 memory AND save a stack on a Gen4 Motherboard compared to a Gen5 Mobo!

Raid 0

If I move my Gen 5 nvme onto my Dimm.2 card and downgrade it back to pcie4 can my 4090 gain back PCIEX4x16? I will admit I was duped and bought a gen 5 ssd for my new Apex Encore build. I currently have two gen 4 drives in slots 2 and 3 and I have a gen 5 drive in the first slot beneath the CPU and my 4090 is operating at pci 4x8 instead of 4x16. I can't return my gen 5 drive anymore so could I insert in the dimm.2 card and run it slower but gain back GPU bandwidth?

As a photographer who games on the side, I'm more concerned with capacity than speed. I'm looking at multiple 4tb drives in my new build

I’m going to using a Z690 motherboard that’s a gen3 m.2 nvme .
I already have a gen5 m.2 nvme so it’s backwards compatible?

What a ridiculous, biased "test". This isn't a good real world scenario.

I"m more than happy with Gen 3 and Gen 4.. Real world you see hardly any difference. Get the larger size drive

goodness I just installed a Gen 4 drive on a Gen 3 slot on my b450 mobo and felt like I was really up to date lol the amount of money people seem to be dropping on staying super current is kind of wild!

Oh By the way nvme ssd gen 3 for budget and Mid-Range while the gen 4 it has a high-end don't use gen 5 is a wasted too expensive.
So ihighly recommended gen 3 and gen 4 instead

Hi, Can I just ask what pc you have - it looks super sweet....
Cheers
Dal

Gen 3 nvme ssd is the sweet spot for gaming budget and mid range nvme ssd is perfect. But the gen 4 is for Productivity and creator only

What brand and model is that monitor?

HOW ABOUT DO RAID 0

Bro… just get some black spray paint.

My god.

Will running a PCIe 4.0 in the 5.0 slot slow or bottleneck my gameplay or load speeds?

Okay...
Question, when running the gen 5, was it plugged into a gen 5 slot, if not, there's the explanation for why is wasn't incredibly faster, especially considering that that theoretical speed 2-way is 128 GB/s...Here's the other half of that equation, IF you were running the gen 5 in a gen5 slot(SSD's run @x4), then it was presumably shared with the GPU for PCIe lane, and the GPU running PCIe 5.0x8...
There are so many things that affect drive performance, slot location being one of them...running through the chipset vs directly through the CPU being the biggest...
I have had(and still do) a recent conundrum dealing with very subject...

Hey. Should I get Samsung 990 Pro M.2 4TB for 410€ or Western Digital Black SN850X M.2 4TB for 330€?

i must be missing something, as when you said listen to the noise i diddnt hear anything.....

A game that really needs direct storage is Starfield. Lol.
As someone who is noise sensitive but has accepted my lot... no way i could have that ssd fan. Surely a phat heatsink would be enough?
I did see those results coming tbh, mainly because developers wont have optimised their games for gen5 and i doubt windows is really optimised yet for gen5, give it a year and maybe the results will look different. Also im pretty sure you get slightly better fps on the fastee drives.

The thing that nobody is talking about with Gen 5 is the ridiculous heat and the E26 isn't performing great. These things are coming with their own air coolers. With GPUs and CPUs both creating more heat, too, I feel like PCs are just going to be a monitor hooked up to a ball of hot plasma in 20 years.

from what ive heard playstations can only utilize about 5000-6000ish mbs per second due to the hardware. sony really trying to rope em in hard with this

I own a mechanical HDD and it performance is same in any games...

pcie 5.0 1st gen ssds are a joke.... best go with high end pcie 4.0 drives

All that really matters is that you have an SSD. Hardware Unboxed did a test of a bunch of different games years ago and found that while NVMe was faster than SATA, if it was a SATA SSD, hairs were being split. I have two 2TB NVMe Gen3 drives that I game with and they're just blazingly fast and don't require heatsinks. They're not Samsung or Corsair or any fancy name like that either. They're just "cheap" Team Group MP33 2TB drives that I got for $90CAD each at Canada Computers on sale. Getting 4TB of NVMe storage for under $200CAD is an absolute STEAL!

Noobs care about brands, but experts only care about specs.

I think the issue of game optimisation is the issue here. Any game that is optimised for Gen5 NVMe's, that company definitely has their priorities in order. But no one gives a shit about this as gamers are brain dead.

HDD 11 secs use to be fast

Why no gen 3 NVME only SATA

When we ll gen 6 u ll need to decide putting 4 slot video card, or putting triple fan nvme with a tower cooler :D

Shocking truths?
1. Unless your constantly moving large files. You'll never notice. Even sata ssd's are fast.

2. Even ddr3 is fast.

3. A 3090 ti can't saturate pcie gen 2x16. Let alone gen 3, 4 or 5.

4. Most of what we make our purchase decisions on, especially for tech, is 99% marketing garbage.

5. And the list could go on for days.....

5 is useless right now; pcie 4 arent even fully saturated. Plus 5 overheat like mfers; junk. Gen 4 nvme's are fast enough for any task for any user right now; hell, so are Gen 3 nvme's

Go for gen3 with higher storage , Its better than paying extra for loading stuff just 1 second faster.

The only game I've found SSD speeds making a difference is Starfield, (atleast at launch) I have 2 NVME drives in my PC, with it being restricted to gen 2 and other at gen 3 speeds as I was on AM4 450 chipset, and running the game on gen 2 speeds led to constant stutters, moving it to gen 3 improved things dramatically, I ended up upgrading my PC just to get Gen 4 and Gen 5.

I have a small fast SSD that is fully dedicated to Primo Cache and big slower HD's. I only experience slow loading times the first time I start a program/game or after a longer time of not using the program/game. The same with rendering programs I use. Most of the times programs are cached by the SSD and I don't had to pay the high prices for a big SSD and the cache hit ratio in my case is over 90%. For the 30$ Primo Cache lifetime license costs I can't buy a big fast SSD of the same size my HD's are.

i'm still going to stick with gen 3 ssd at max.

although i would like to have bigger capacity at gen 3 at min.... Sata kinda screwy pricing in my country when you go on same capacity.

I Bought a SATA SSD two days from now, and i see the differences with my old HDD, but based on what iv'e seen on the video, i prefer SATA over PciE drives because the lower temps and the very small difference in loading times

Still 1TB Gen3 SSD Systempartition and 2TB Gen3 SSD Storage running and perfectly happy, and i am pretty sure that i wouldn´t notice anything speedwise with newer Gen SSDs. Maybe in direct comparison side by side but that is a stupid reason paying 300-400€ more for a very small upgrade

People have really tried to find a good reason to get Gen 5 SSD but they really struggled

but what about boot times is it faster or the same??????

Q: with 10 Gbps cable, running games over the Internet is cheaper than buying new hardware

This was quite an informative test, and it is greatly appreciated. I have a pretty large collection of games. So, for the sake of capacity, they reside on a pair of hard drives in Raid 0. I think a test of such a setup would reveal that they approach the performance of a SATA SSD.

If somebody have 15sec for map loading, they also have 30sec as well.

I am going with gen 4 because the price is decent now, but a reminder that a sata ssd gets like 90 percent at least of the performance of any nvme in gaming. You could buy some sata ssds for mass game storage for extremely cheap now and the lower heat might be worth it.

ADATA = Marketing suicide sending this to review... 🤦‍♂

SATA ssd's yay!!

I'll not suffer the cost and the noise to pocket less than two seconds of my day. Thank you, very much.

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