tf2, but it’s MvM - normal tf2 with upgrades, canteens & med shield: who's best? what's the meta?

MvM in casual'a 10th class: the Sentry Buster!
Health: 600
Attack: deals 9999 damage to buildings and players within 120 hammer units, but kills player upon detonation.
On death not caused by sentry buster's attack: explodes with 95% damage reduction

I wonder what the meta would be if sentry busters were included

Mann vs Mann

Use revives AND this, that might be interesting

Is there community servers of this

So having the shop favours red team, and from the other video, reviving players favours blue team, so would combining them make the game balanced again?

God I just thought of the gas passer in this mode as the pocket crocket and I would like to erase all thought from my mind

Makes sense that the most OP options (explosive headshots, demo stickies, gas passer) are useless in this because A) no grouping up, B) smarter enemies, and C) Less enemies

how about combining all these previous experiments:
so mvm upgrades tf2 with respawning on teammates where everyone can use all weapons (with the restrictions of the original video of course)

What about this shit!?





Team Fortress 2, but a main game is a combination of MvM and x10

What if the VSH changes we implemented into the main game? And which of the VSH changes like 50%uber instead of 25% Uber from Undersaw, every on-kill becoming on-hit are because they gave Saxton special properties, because they gave every on-kill weapon an addendum for when hitting Saxton and which are just the weapon itself being altered for VSH?
Also, climbing would definitely change things, even if it’s one of the ‘make exceptions’ hypotheses.

I have to wonder if the Tomislav would have been good for sentry killing. Fire rate upgrades would be extra effective on it and its accuracy, coupled with damage dealt to sentries not suffering from damage falloff, makes me think it could sustain some really strong dps on sentries from just outside their range.

i sya this be fun with some engineener nerfs

Valve should add this when the game detects the other team is full of bots

It's so sad people don't realize this game mode is called Uber upgrades and it's 100x more fun than regular mvm upgrades

medic's shield should genuinely be in the base game

Engineer, counter engineer, and counter-counter engineer is just normal pubs tbh

red tape recorder being useful for once

Counter fortress:go

Wow

spy's sapper upgrade causes robots to get sapped in a radius, does that effect apply to engineer's buildings aswell?

*Oppressed*

Scorch shot pyro is king :DD

I have an idea, what if mvm upgrades stacked forever so like you could upgrade your scattergun so much it becomes an instant delete weapon or have an instant 5000 health Medi gun

yeah, but has anyone tried the Nigh unstoppable Demoknight build with uber canteens?

I actually want to see more of this kind of thing. There's the Uber Upgrades servers, sure, but those don't have upper limits beyond a few things. Having the MvM upgrades in casual is what I've looked for, but could never find. With some rebalances, it could be really interesting.

I was waiting for this whole my life since i aquired knowlege about MvM updgades

Something I kinda wanna see is the game with upgrades already all bought and have you still earn money for canteens

This is why sentry busters play such a big role in MVM otherwise Engineer would single handedly solo the entire game

TF2 with killstreaks

What if someone did class wars while max upgrade, like Engineers vs Medic

so basically engie trusn from average specialist tiny mann to the ultimate lifeform

it looks fun ngl

wonder if aimbot snipers would be good here

Alternate title: i made tf2 into CSGO

How do i join this server?

No bi*che* meme: where loch n load where quickilouncher?

The lengths I go through to play a game where spy beats sniper

did nobody try the loch n load demo??

this shows that engineer IS the all around best class, being meta in tf2 with MvM upgrades AND class wars

it would make sense if players could either buy sentry busters or if they spawned naturally throughout the wave like in regular mvm

step 1 : pick engineer
step 2 : get medic and pyro
step 3 : buy sentry health, firing speed, jump height, resistances, movement speed (and ubercharge canteen)
step 4 : medic buys ubercharge duration, ubercharge rate, jump height, movement speed, canteen specialist, ubercharge canteen
step 5 : pyro buys ubercharge canteen, airblast force, movement speed, jump height
step 6 : win

Are there any servers with mvm mechanics in normal maps

The only way red tape is meta 😢

Last I saw when Ace did this, it was actually demo knight that dominated the meta.

Funny how the pyro is always super powerful in all situations, even ridiculously modded situations, while requiring zero effort and people still claim its a weak class lmao.

implement sentry busters as the 10th class, problem solved

Hey this would make red tape better