Did GM just S#%! on FORD'S 30 Year Investment in Overhead Cam Engines?! | C8 Z06 & LT6 Breakdown!

Did GM just S#%! on FORD'S 30 Year Investment in Overhead Cam Engines?! | C8 Z06 & LT6 Breakdown!

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Slow V6 Mustang
Slow V6 Mustang - 01.09.2023 18:48

I wish GM still made the Camaro because imagine what a Camaro with an LT6 would be like, maybe put it in the z28 model or something.

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winsome879
winsome879 - 28.08.2023 14:16

Nothing the gay men (GM) makes will ever top Ford. Those off brand ferrais aren't impressive at all.

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hotratz327
hotratz327 - 27.08.2023 18:00

Don't be jealous, Be excited that we still have competition between automakers. If we didn't, we all would still be driving Model T's

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EDD HERNANDEZ
EDD HERNANDEZ - 26.08.2023 04:55

Soy un simple lector chevi fabrico un motor supercuadrado.osea mas bore que stroke estos motores revolucionan mucho mas que un gran stroke de ls o coyote acompañado de un cigueñal plano con una gran admision de aire...esta es la receta para las carreras.. pero lo malo esque estos motores no producen el torque que un gran stroke cigueñal cruzado....mientras que a ford nunca se le ocurrio fabricar algo asi.

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David Norris
David Norris - 24.08.2023 12:35

You mean GM is finally paying another company to develop an engine that might be competitive with what Ford was making in the 60’s…..

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David M
David M - 12.08.2023 21:27

You say the corvette has to up their game, they’ve up their game it has a monster LT6.

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Joshua Lowe
Joshua Lowe - 01.08.2023 11:33

Am I missing something or does the converted dyno for the GT 350 show it making ~460lb ft and ~535hp? Why isn't converted to 529hp or 426lb ft?

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Charles Fifer
Charles Fifer - 08.06.2023 12:45

You forget about the 1990s LT5. DOHC 7.0 v8. 32 valve

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Freedom Rider
Freedom Rider - 20.03.2023 06:38

Ford can’t build a car without recalls. Doubt they have anything in the pipeline. By the way I owns super charged Coyote.

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I am the Fool!
I am the Fool! - 09.03.2023 02:41

I'm sure that GM is just building their street motor to prepare for new nascar overhead cam engines.

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D.E.B. B
D.E.B. B - 04.03.2023 16:28

Doesn't matter. In one generation, we will all be driving electric cars. Which we already see offer terrific performance; if congress had created laws creating standardization of quick change replaceable battery packs, we wouldn't need special charging stations, and there would be no nonsense about battery range. In a short time, we could have had battery exchange infrastructure at service stations right along with the old fossil fuel pumps. Bayonet connectors on flat battery packs which slide and connect underneath the cars could be exchanged even quicker than filling a tank with gas/diesel. But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, we have to protect the auto manufacturers profits by allowing them all to have separate designs for connectors. We saw the standardization of other types of batteries slashing the costs to consumers, and we currently see 'proprietary' battery case designs which double or triple the cost of tool batteries even though the internal cells ARE THE SAME. All to keep profits up, keeping the cost of transportation more expensive to the consumers.

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Section 8 Motor pool
Section 8 Motor pool - 02.03.2023 20:51

GM always waits around to see how what Ford makes washes, then starts copying…the most sincere form of flattery.

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Daniel Trujillo
Daniel Trujillo - 28.02.2023 17:45

get a new chair please

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حسن الهاشمي
حسن الهاشمي - 28.02.2023 01:36

GM will always be on top. Nothing new really

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Richard
Richard - 24.02.2023 09:25

Ford crapped on their overhead cam V-8 right in the beginning when they decided to use the bore center of the small block Ford at 3.93". Condemned to mediocrity forever...

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Richard
Richard - 24.02.2023 09:11

You can't take a chassis dyno graph and make an accurate graph of the engine Dyno, especially in the lower RPM range.. This whole Dyno graph comparison is flawed right from the beginning. Torque is primarily a function of displacement and compression, I highly doubt the 5.2 Voodoo engine is making more torque anywhere across the RPM scale.

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Mark Hall
Mark Hall - 22.02.2023 16:59

Once you do 529 HP NA, just add a Blowa.

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Adam Durst
Adam Durst - 13.02.2023 03:04

Yes

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craig T
craig T - 10.02.2023 20:14

Come on man all S550 GT350's were rated 526 horsepower NOT 529 and I'm a GM guy through and through

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TheMrRichard
TheMrRichard - 04.02.2023 19:16

GM has had the technology to decimate Ford for decades -- it is just entertaining to keep them around to share subsidiary technologies with. A lot of it has to do with the intelligence of the consumer, and anyone who has worked with the General Public knows how dumb they are...

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Matthew Storm
Matthew Storm - 01.02.2023 13:25

Valve lash set for life? After dealing with burnt valves on Toyota engines due to neglected valve adjustments, I will believe this when I see it. All I can say is that I hope GM used some super hard material for the valve seats.

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PRO BLACTIVE
PRO BLACTIVE - 22.01.2023 08:15

Your chair has a bald spot

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Mike Hall
Mike Hall - 18.01.2023 21:57

They been did that and made us come out with a push-rod engine we need to make the coyote a push-rod engine

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Gear Jammer
Gear Jammer - 16.01.2023 19:13

Dude what about the GT500

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Steve Lawson
Steve Lawson - 16.01.2023 17:50

Lmao.....did they actually build these engines or design them ???? Their first DOHC engine was a Lotus design built by Mercury Marine......get real son

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Franklin Rolando Perez
Franklin Rolando Perez - 13.01.2023 12:32

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 ummm u do know that ford has a Godzilla engine? Yup a 7.4 gas engine 😊😊 good luck corvette 😂😂😂😂 new Shelby is coming out with 1000k horsepower 🤣🤣🤣

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Everton Antonio Angelo Souza
Everton Antonio Angelo Souza - 12.01.2023 03:08

GM E SUAS MUITISSIMAS SUBSIDIARIAS MAQUINISSIMA PODEROSISSIMA, GLORIOSISSIMO, PERFEITISSIMA DE ALTISSIMO PERFORMANCE, DESEMPENHO, MUITISSIMAS QUALIDADES SUPERIORSISSIMAS, EXCELENTISSIMO PROJETO EM TODOS SENTIDOS PRA DOMINAR TUDO, MUITISSIMAS TECNOLOGIAS AVANÇADISSIMAS, RESISTENTISSIMO, MODELO TOP DEMAIS POIS DESFILA no TRANSITO DIGNISSIMO, COMPATIVEL dos EUA, LUXUOSISSIMO, CONFORTAVEL, LENDA DOMINANTE EM TUDO, IMBATIVEL, ESTABILIDADE, AMANTISSIMO DE ALTISSIMAS PERFORMANCE, DESEMPENHO E VELOCIDADES, MUITISSIMAS PERSONALIDADES, DIRIGIBILIDADE, IMBATIVEL, INDISCUTIVELMENTE O SUPERIORSISSIMO EM TUDO, SHOW DEMAIS, 10, SUPERAÇAO, SENSACIONAL, LINDISSIMO, EXCELENTISSIMO, MAIOR POTENCIA MUNDIAL, REINA ABSOLUTISSIMO, PROTAGONISTA, CELEBRIDADE E ETCS

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Ralph Ellis
Ralph Ellis - 09.01.2023 17:51

Not a Chevy fan, but every once in a while they slay it. When the LT5 in the ZR1 came out I think this motivated Ford to find a way to rapidly catch up in fear that DOHC smallblocks were on the way from GM (Remember, Ford showed this was a monsterous powermaker in the 60's with the SOHC motors). The modulars had to be "panic response" from this realization. If we're honest, the early modulars definitely were poor performers and I think this was due to Ford playing "catch-up" to it's European and Japanese counterparts and trying to find ways to affordably integrate this technology into production.

Could you imagine if GM invested earlier into retooling what became the LS series with a DOHC top end for SS/WS6 models?
It could have been a legitimate end to the Mustang if we're honest.
I couldn't see an LS with an efficient DOHC head on cam phasers making less than ~450hp and probably ~400ft-lbs and then dialing mechanical timing back to lope long and still get 30mpg like tall-ratio LS 4th Gen's did.

Oh well, woulda, coulda, shoulda.

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Daniel Castillo Jr
Daniel Castillo Jr - 08.01.2023 22:40

Ford needs to copy the lambo now lol

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J B
J B - 05.01.2023 04:57

Well the valve train thing is completely reasonable considering that most manufacturers consider the life of the vehicle to be 100,000 miles

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Donald Burton
Donald Burton - 03.01.2023 01:40

and lots of this gm engines are in the junk yard

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Vin Mandich
Vin Mandich - 02.01.2023 20:27

The cost of ford parts to gm parts the cost effective theories are shot all to shit I'm building a pushrod 5.0 right now. Still kick myself in ass for not just building a sbc that can handle double what the ford can for same money it takes to build this 5.0 I thought about coyote swapping the sn95 until I priced it out I could build a bbc with double the numbers for the cost of the wild mutt engine then the cost to put parts on the mutt is ridiculous so save the BBC and sbc parts I have for a gm car I'm not into the whole swap seen on something that came with a known 8 cyl power plant there are enough mutt builds out there already its so funny how the ls and technology and boost has made so many look like they know what the he'll there doing I would love to hand factory sbc or sbf or Mopar with choice of factory casting heads and block .then do build off with dollars spent and parts used to build a 1//4 mile car naturally aspirated see why

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Vin Mandich
Vin Mandich - 02.01.2023 20:10

What's the deck height of the 5.5 zo6

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Al-grex
Al-grex - 02.01.2023 05:57

Ford has a new engine so bring it on the mustang has dual intake throttle bodies on it now an they redesigned the engine from start to finish so I hope u know that

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Doug Billman
Doug Billman - 24.12.2022 15:49

One guy put a super charger on his Vette... A few folks have put twin turbos on their's... Turbos are putting out 1200 horse power... The super charger, putting out 1,000 horse power........

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Egg Reedgious
Egg Reedgious - 15.12.2022 16:08

I don't know how much the LT6 can be stroked- it needs the long connecting rods to keep rotating physics in check to get the high rpms where you get the most benefit from the flat plane.

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Brad Callaghan
Brad Callaghan - 07.12.2022 07:52

Just saw a dyno run on the ZO6. 610 HP to the rear wheels with no power additives.

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805gregg
805gregg - 04.12.2022 22:47

In 1950 Ford had a flathead V-8, Chevy had an inline 6, while Chrysler had a Hemi V-8, Chrysler has always been ahead in engine design

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Eyman Baird
Eyman Baird - 03.12.2022 03:43

Modular motorsports racing has a stock coyote block capable of 2,000.hp & 4,000hp Forged block. Koenigsegg used a Ford mod design. Freevalve would be awesome.

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Everton Antonio Angelo Souza
Everton Antonio Angelo Souza - 30.11.2022 20:47

GM E SUAS MUITISSIMAS SUBSIDIARIAS MAQUINISSIMA PODEROSISSIMA, GLORIOSISSIMO, PERFEITISSIMA DE ALTISSIMO PERFORMANCE, DESEMPENHO, MUITISSIMAS QUALIDADES SUPERIORSISSIMAS, EXCELENTISSIMO PROJETO EM TODOS SENTIDOS PRA DOMINAR TUDO, MUITISSIMAS TECNOLOGIAS AVANÇADISSIMAS, RESISTENTISSIMO, MODELO TOP DEMAIS POIS DESFILA no TRANSITO COMPATIVEL, DIGNISSIMO dos EUA, LUXUOSISSIMO, CONFORTAVEL, LENDA DOMINANTE EM TUDO, IMBATIVEL, ESTABILIDADE, AMANTISSIMO DE ALTISSIMAS PERFORMANCE, DESEMPENHO E VELOCIDADES, MUITISSIMAS PERSONALIDADES, DIRIGIBILIDADE, IMBATIVEL, INDISCUTIVELMENTE O SUPERIORSISSIMO EM TUDO, SHOW DEMAIS, 10, SUPERAÇAO, SENSACIONAL, LINDISSIMO, EXCELENTISSIMO, MAIOR POTENCIA MUNDIAL, REINA ABSOLUTISSIMO, PROTAGONISTA, CELEBRIDADE E ETCS

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J M
J M - 27.11.2022 17:37

You need to compare it to the ford gt not the mustang. That’s why the pricing looks so crazy I mean a ford gt is 400k and the z06 blew it out the water in VIR so compare this to it. Rather than the cheap mustang

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Joel Scarboro
Joel Scarboro - 20.11.2022 17:56

I’d say no GM with the new mid engine setup allows for u restricted intake and exhaust configuration. Ford Shelby gt350 has an exhaust,intake and displacement restriction. So it’s not a true apples to apples.

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EumelaninC
EumelaninC - 08.11.2022 23:10

Z06Corvette . eth Sold for 1/2 MILLION 😂🤣🤣 Which one of you rich dudes snagged it???

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Joker face
Joker face - 08.11.2022 11:21

This LT6 engine is amazing but i have a problem with the C08 Z06, the very higher final drive ratio 5.56:1 is too short for a flat plane cranckshaft V8 with high revs like the LT6 and decrease dramatically the top speed.For me lower final drive ratio 2.90:1 or 3.0:1 are the best for LT6 because flat plane cranckshaft gives naturally high revs and a longer final drive ratio gives top speed, that's the perfect mixture for accelerations and top speed association.👍

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EaglePoint Tactical
EaglePoint Tactical - 07.11.2022 15:28

why are you tryin to compare a mustang with a corvette??? stick to smacking camaros arownd. dont think you can jump in the ring with tyson because you just won a drunken bar fight.

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Chris Robinson
Chris Robinson - 06.11.2022 17:12

I don't know why ford people keep tryin to best GM....🤣🤣🤣 they Hella happy for that coyote engine 2.. Gm said hold up.. let me rain on ya Lil parade remind yall that yall still ford. 🤧.

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Chris Bearce
Chris Bearce - 05.11.2022 03:07

The ZO6 is one of the fastest cars in the world from 0 to 60

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Sagen Babin
Sagen Babin - 04.11.2022 00:28

I like the ford crossplane it’s an odd ball
But still makes like 530 horse at 7500 rpm and has a redline of 8 that’s so bad ass

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John Coleman
John Coleman - 27.10.2022 22:44

Ford was not attempting to create an ultimate "road-going-race-engine" when developing the Shelby GT350 Voodoo engine. They wanted to develop a high revving 530hp engine that is "reliable" off already produced parts, which they accomplished. Ford was intending on boosting the Voodoo, for the GT500, so it could retain reliability and produce gobs of power. I like the idea that General motors developed a road going race engine, and producing the MOST powerful naturally aspirated V8 motor ever put in a PRODUCTION car.

I, however, am partial to Dodge's philosophy, there is no replacement for displacement. A properly stroked Viper V10 produces not only a lot of power more than the 5.5l Overhead cam engine but has reliability to boot. Also, despite the Viper having such a large motor it still weighs between 3363-3420 pounds, depending on trim level. A 9.0L 2V per cylinder push rod V8 pumping out 900hp on 93 octane is a road going modified production engine that can compete with crazy cars like the McLaren 720s.

All that said, if I were rich the C8 Z06 would be in my collection, especially since it has that unique 5.56 final drive axle ratio, making it a bullet off the line, but of course compromising top end velocity, but who cares, because it still can hit 195mph. . .

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