Why Your Favourite Racing Games Don’t Have Your Favourite Cars

Why Your Favourite Racing Games Don’t Have Your Favourite Cars

Roflwaffle

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Licencing cars for racing games is a topic that many people have strong opinions about, but very few seem to know the facts. I’m not claiming to be some sort of expert on this topic, but by pulling together all the information that we can on three cases in particular, we can start to find some truths within the murky depths of assumptions and misconceptions…


Music (in order):

ALONY - Yuki Oike (Gran Turismo 6)
Customer Creed - Hidenori Shoji (Yakuza 0)
An Old Bassman - Isamu Ohira (Gran Turismo 4)
Let me see your mind - Tyme. (Gran Turismo 5)
Your Vibe - Asuka Sakai (Ridge Racer Type 4)
Kerwan, Metropolis - David Bergeaud (Ratchet Clank)
Sterling - Lance Hayes (Forza Motorsport 4)
Sunset Breeze - Keiji Inai (Gran Turismo 6)
Main Menu - Rom Di Prisco (Need for Speed II)
Silver Stream - Tetsukazu Nakanishi (Rage Racer)


Channels credited:

https://www.youtube.com/@xTimelessGaming
https://www.youtube.com/@TheRealEmile
https://www.youtube.com/@BestMOTORing
https://www.youtube.com/@Passatsdecanto
https://www.youtube.com/@arcadegamesoldschool9601
https://www.youtube.com/@Gtoofast
https://www.youtube.com/@Xpertgamingtech
https://www.youtube.com/@IsuckAtDriving
https://www.youtube.com/@ZanarAesthetics
https://www.youtube.com/@davidgames95
https://www.youtube.com/@MotoGamesTV
https://www.youtube.com/@stig2607
https://www.youtube.com/@RACINGGAMESVIDEOS
https://www.youtube.com/@PCGamingVideos
https://www.youtube.com/@OptionAuto
https://www.youtube.com/@gigachadforza2002
https://www.youtube.com/@Paragleiber
https://www.youtube.com/@TenderTomato
https://www.youtube.com/@Hagerty


Sources:

https://gran-turismo.fandom.com/wiki/Gran_Turismo_6/Car_List
https://www.thegamer.com/gran-turismo-7-car-takes-270-days-to-make/
https://www.thedrive.com/article/13256/forza-motorsport-wont-include-any-toyota-road-cars
https://www.thedrive.com/article/15523/need-for-speed-payback-car-list-revealed-toyota-and-lexus-missing
https://www.gtplanet.net/toyota-gaming-no-street-racing/
https://www.kotaku.com.au/2019/11/toyota-is-ending-its-weird-holdout-from-racing-games/
https://forza.fandom.com/wiki/Forza_Motorsport_7/Cars
https://projectcars.fandom.com/wiki/Project_CARS_2/Cars
https://projectcars.fandom.com/wiki/Project_CARS/Cars
https://kotaku.com/toyota-exec-realistic-video-games-make-cars-unnecessar-5387350
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDQIgyavsps
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Electronic_Arts
https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/What-happened-to-Toyota-and-Audi/td-p/11917575

https://www.gtplanet.net/gt-sport-delayed-until-2017-new-features-yet-to-be-unveiled/
https://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-sport-closed-beta-coming-march-17-for-us-players/
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/chinese-car-maker-geely-buys-majority-stake-lotus
https://www.gtplanet.net/lotus-return-to-gtsport/
https://www.gtplanet.net/spa-gt-sport-licensing-issues/
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/datamined-car-list.409368/
https://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/gtsport/news/00_5011344.html

https://www.gtplanet.net/volkswagen-wont-be-featured-in-forza-horizon-3/
https://uk.motor1.com/news/301476/mitsubishi-forza-horizon-4s-update/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellantis
https://tcrf.net/Forza_Horizon_5/Cars
https://racinggames.gg/forza/the-forza-horizon-4-cars-we-already-miss/
https://forums.forza.net/t/whats-going-on-with-the-car-list-car-additions/538789
https://forums.forza.net/t/from-fh4-to-fh5-how-did-we-lose-so-many-manufacturers-and-cars/598047/4

https://midnightclub.fandom.com/wiki/Gemballa_Turbo_Coupe
https://www.ign.com/articles/2011/08/25/ea-blocks-porsche-from-appearing-in-forza-4
https://assettocorsa.gg/porsche-pack-volume-1/
https://www.gtplanet.net/porsche-pulls-plug-ea-exclusivity/
https://www.ign.com/articles/2015/02/09/ea-we-need-to-talk-about-porsche
https://www.gtplanet.net/confirmed-pikes-peak-is-a-gran-turismo-exclusive/

https://www.hotcars.com/real-reason-ferrari-sued-deadmau5/
https://mitsubishi-motors.co.uk/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Lancer_Evolution


0:00 Introduction
3:00 Toyota and Need for Speed
11:14 Lotus and Gran Turismo
17:47 FCA Italy brands and Forza
23:39 Porsche’s EA Exclusivity (2000 – 2016)
28:56 Conclusion

Тэги:

#Gran_Turismo #GT7 #Need_for_Speed #NFS_Unbound #Forza_Horizon_5 #Forza_Motorsport #Toyota #Lotus #Alfa_Romeo #Fiat #Lancia #Abarth #Porsche #EA #licencing #licensing #exclusivity #cars #brands #manufacturers #FCA #Stellantis #agreement #deal #car_list #Ferrari #liveries #customisation #accuracy #damage_model #Mitsubishi #money #legacy
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TequilaToothpick
TequilaToothpick - 19.09.2023 05:57

Oddly before EA scooped up the rights to Porsche, there was also Porsche Challenge on the PS1 by Sony.

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Kari Greyd
Kari Greyd - 19.09.2023 00:25

I really don’t get why car companies aren’t paying to have their cars in games. It seems like free advertising it makes no sense.

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Sherlock Noir
Sherlock Noir - 18.09.2023 16:53

after 2 month forza horizon has alfa, fiat and lancia 😅

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Shafter_ TheShagyDude
Shafter_ TheShagyDude - 18.09.2023 01:01

just coming here to drop a comment. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT PROBLEM, THIS COMMENT WAS POSTED BY ASSETO CORSA GANG

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Sera Peach
Sera Peach - 17.09.2023 22:49

almost every dream car i have, i've driven in a game of need for speed or gran turismo.

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CommodoreLandlubber
CommodoreLandlubber - 17.09.2023 21:59

Track owners: "We want 3 times more than everybody else."

(*removed from game*)

Good thing they came to their senses.

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G-tallica559
G-tallica559 - 17.09.2023 19:17

They fr have no good Toyotas in Unbound? Yuck..

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Skele tonne
Skele tonne - 17.09.2023 08:29

now forza does

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EmperorNike
EmperorNike - 15.09.2023 21:43

So that's why I can't drive an Infiniti G30

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TWAIN
TWAIN - 15.09.2023 19:03

But my favourite racing game (NFS Underground) does have my favourite car (Miata NB).

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freak0429
freak0429 - 15.09.2023 04:55

Posted just before fh5 added the Italian cars

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legendofzelda03 gamerYT
legendofzelda03 gamerYT - 14.09.2023 05:27

only one doing their job is forza horizon 5

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zach bartron
zach bartron - 13.09.2023 13:14

Little did he know forza would bring on all those brands

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The Grand Gaming Adventure
The Grand Gaming Adventure - 12.09.2023 06:09

Fast foward from the time this video was made and now FH5 has Alfa, Lancia, Fiat. The next update is bringing new BMWs

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Raggy Jha
Raggy Jha - 11.09.2023 22:17

The 4 missing Italians were in this month’s DLC in Forza Horizon 5.

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MiGUELAX12
MiGUELAX12 - 11.09.2023 04:11

It is funny that this video appears when fh5 just released cars from those brands 1 week ago

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Tristan Pillay
Tristan Pillay - 10.09.2023 22:28

I just found this video after doing the whole Italian season in Forza XDDD

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JUGGER-017
JUGGER-017 - 10.09.2023 13:44

real cars are cool but all these licensing headaches are why beamng can do whatever it wants

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Nate over the Horizon
Nate over the Horizon - 09.09.2023 19:52

Was project Gotham 1 and 2 ea owned? Porsches were in those games that were after 2000

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offbrandbiscuit
offbrandbiscuit - 08.09.2023 14:33

Glad you pointed out the BS in the Toyota thing. People on the NFS subreddit still deadass believe that they just don't license their cars to NFS because of illegal street racing, not because of an exclusivity deal

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Muhammed Asghar Khawaja
Muhammed Asghar Khawaja - 08.09.2023 13:48

"We've got to have MONEY ."

- Mr. Lickboot, Tom & Jerry: The Movie (1993)

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Theman Inback
Theman Inback - 07.09.2023 23:39

Forza horizon 5 just released alfa romeo and Lancia

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Moter1
Moter1 - 07.09.2023 23:14

This video aged well for forza

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Pickfordr100
Pickfordr100 - 07.09.2023 22:48

Love racing the little citroen c1 round in forza 4 😂

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Cam RSR
Cam RSR - 07.09.2023 20:34

Yeah that Porsche EA thing was bogus.
I loved NFS Porsche unleashed even though is was really RUF.....I can do it too lol
Forza 4 got it done with DLC.
Forza 7 snubbed Toyota hard. I think Porsche had something to do with it. They compete with each-other in the WEC.
Porsche was on the box.
My favorite types to race and or set hot laps is the real life race cars. I think Forza does the best at giving real fans of racing something to use repeatedly.
Also Forza MS has the most real world circuits.

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Socky Noob
Socky Noob - 06.09.2023 11:38

A shame that RUF is gone from games nowadays. They've made new cars not based on Porsches, like the new BTR and Yellowbird.

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Rosaria
Rosaria - 06.09.2023 10:38

Toyota is a total hypocrite tbh in their stance against featuring cars in illegal street racing games. With their hypocrisy they should have also sacked Toyota cars in many famous Japanese games like the arcade only Wangan Midnight, as well as the upcoming The Crew Motorfest. The hypocrisy comes from one of their advertisements that actually shows illegal street racing.

But yeah, it's still a mystery...no one will really know.

Licensing also prevents realism in vehicle damage which is honestly quite painful especially for simulators that need actual mechanical and crumple zone damages to be portrayed accurately...

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Mad max Crashes
Mad max Crashes - 05.09.2023 11:46

I remember Toyota saying at somepoint the reason they didnt want their cars in games cause everyone only wants their older cars and not their newer ones
Which logical if you only make econo boxes no ones gonna wanna just drive around a Prius when the 86 corolla exist

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lazy kingdom
lazy kingdom - 05.09.2023 08:37

I hope I can get my Toyota Corolla

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Charles Lee III
Charles Lee III - 03.09.2023 23:07

Playing racing video games such as Project Gotham Racing 2 and Forza Horizon 4 made me want a Ferrari F40 in real life.

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Charles Lee III
Charles Lee III - 03.09.2023 22:54

It seems that the United Kingdom has zero tolerance for illegal street racing. And Ghost Games (now known as EA Gothenburg) is Swedish-based and they probably also have zero tolerance for illegal street racing.

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Charles Lee III
Charles Lee III - 03.09.2023 22:46

Ok, so Forza Motorsport 7 and Forza Horizon 4 didn't have Toyota cars at launch. The Crew Motorfest and Forza Motorsport will have Toyota cars at launch.

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Rey
Rey - 02.09.2023 15:58

toyota saying if u got the cars in a game or some kind of movie, then ppl wont buy em irl. meanwhile ae86´s prices: In recent years, the price of Toyota AE86 has been on a slight upward trend after remaining quite stable in the range of $10,000 to $20,000 for many consecutive years. Currently, If you want to buy a Toyota AE86, you must pay from $15000 to over $40000 depending on the model.

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OmaewaMoShindeiru
OmaewaMoShindeiru - 01.09.2023 18:58

nice the lancia and fiat brands appeared in fh5

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Kristian0487
Kristian0487 - 31.08.2023 18:37

the forza and Italy thing made my die of laughter. as of august 31st the current season or in game year is italy based adding alfa and the stratos

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matt driver
matt driver - 31.08.2023 10:25

looks at Horizon 5 car list
Well this Video aged well...
The funny this is, if he has done research for this video, then he would have found out those manufacturers were already announced to return even before this video was uploaded

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Interpl
Interpl - 31.08.2023 00:43

My Only Question Is: Where are the Skoda Cars in Forza Games?

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olzhas1one
olzhas1one - 30.08.2023 22:55

This is one aspect of game development that I am very sad is so secretive. There's just so much mystery surrounding car licensing procedurs for games. Projects like Need For Speed Hot Pursuit 2010 are of particular interest to me, because I wonder just how exactly did EA convince brands like Bugatti and Pagani to not only feature their cars in illegal road racing and police pursuits, but also have quite a serious looking damage model and vehicular combat. I don't think just showering them with cash would be enough, since as far as I know sport and hyper car manufacturers are very selective of how their cars are portrayed in games, which is why we have rarely see Ferrari in an illegal street racing game.

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AlexZePegasus
AlexZePegasus - 30.08.2023 09:07

Guess forza listened, they added all 3 of those manufacterers in the Italian Season update.

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BDominikB
BDominikB - 29.08.2023 22:46

everywhere i go, i hear ratchet and clank music

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Jano_142
Jano_142 - 29.08.2023 17:21

At the time of this comment, Forza has recently added Fiat, Lancia, and Alfa Romeo back into the game.

Unfortunately, they are festival playlist rewards. There is only two weeks left on the playlist so go get them while you still can

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The Average Forza Player
The Average Forza Player - 29.08.2023 14:30

In nfs, you are running from the cops
In initial d, there seems to be no policing force
In WMMT series, the cops don’t chase after street racers, they only appear for roadblocks which the street racers abide by.
Meanwhile, in nfs, you crash into police, forcefully brake through roadblocks, and run from the cops.
It’s not street racing that is the issue, it’s more of the types of characters that provide the effect of running from the police.
Generalizing street racing is stupid, because there are actually characters such as the midnight club in japan which tried to effectively reduce casualties while racing, and disbanded because they didn’t reach their ultimate goal.
In America, things definitely would not have hone that way.
I can’t explain the other occurrences, but that is my hypothesis for this particular case.

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Benjamin Zarkhin
Benjamin Zarkhin - 29.08.2023 12:36

Well now we got Lancia, Alfa and Fiat in Forza. Recycled models, upgrades (Delta S4 with only a turbo) and some of them sharing sounds. Thanks.

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Ryan Davis
Ryan Davis - 29.08.2023 06:47

Lol these Italian cars just came to Horizon 5 this week

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Melody -Mellybyte-
Melody -Mellybyte- - 29.08.2023 01:58

I always cared about Porsche especially since childhood, always broke my heart that awsome games like GT4 and Test Drive Unlimited never had Porsche.. yes yes RUF is there but it's not the same, I love their historical models.

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SG Project // Проект Сгущенка
SG Project // Проект Сгущенка - 27.08.2023 22:32

Porsche was somehow featured in GTR series tho

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SG Project // Проект Сгущенка
SG Project // Проект Сгущенка - 27.08.2023 22:32

Porsche was somehow featured in GTR series tho

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