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Yep an American destroyer built to escort larger ships is almost as strong as a Russian battle cruiser and flagship. And I noticed you never talked about crew quality and maintenance and breakdown rates which would be a huge factor. Sorry but Russian stuff is unreliable crap.
Ответитьas a arleigh burke i must watch
Ответитьlike the moskva the kirov just sinks on its own from being used, a real warship like an american one wouldnt need to do anything
ОтветитьKirov vs modernized Iowa?
ОтветитьAnd now 6 years later: Ukraine has sunk many Russian ships, just a few days ago. At the same time, an American destroyer shot down 12 one-way drones, 2 cruise missiles and 3 anti-ship ballistic missiles. The reality would probably be: Arleigh Burke sees Kirov but doesn't shoot. Some time later, Kirov sees Arleigh Burke and shoots. Arleigh Burke is able to defend itself (thanks to Aegis) and attacks the Kirov back. The Kirov is sunk and the Russian government says someone was smoking near ammunition and started a fire. A Slava cruiser like the Moskva has comparable or even better air defence than a Kirov battlecruiser. And if a few Neptune missiles were enough for the Moskva, a dozen Harpoon missiles would also be enough to sink a Kirov class.
ОтветитьYes, the burks have one ciws. However, the second ciws was replaced by rim-ram that can engage targets at a greater distance than the ciws. Also, ESSM is also deployed on burks. 4 missiles in one vls tube. Also, 20 mm romote firing guns have been added.
ОтветитьTotal wrong comparison, should be Kirov-class battlecruiser vs Ticonderoga-class cruiser! Build and in service around the same time...
Kirov has better weapons load, Ticonderoga has better sensors and situational awareness depending on the situation both can win.
The destroyer is not made to get hit so its bringing a knife to a gun fight.
Ответитьlike u said at the beginning not the same class of ship. Also, if this russian vessel destroyed a single DDG of the USN it wouldn't make it a week after. The navy is known for very proportional responses.
ОтветитьTitle should “Can a 10,000 dollar worth Ukranian drones defeat kirov battle cruiser”
ОтветитьAnd yet with all that... the mocba was destroyed....
You seem to completely missed the fact that the crew is the most important factor in fighting a ship. We already know that the Russian crew is poorly trained. Their ability to fight the ship and also to keep the ship floating after it gets hit, it's not shown promise. Also I don't believe that an arleigh Burke destroyer operates in a vacuum. There will always be an a wax or Poseidon or some kind of assets nearby to back it up. Russia on the other hand has shown its capabilities quite well in the Black Sea. And they know nothing. So really Binkov, what you're really talking about is hypotheticals. What a hypothetical second greatest Navy in the world would do against the best Navy in the world. And we all know that that is a paper tiger. There's no denying that the Russian military has a lot of kinetic energy built into it. Maybe too much. But they lack pretty much everything else.
My money is on the Arleigh Burke.
obviously! Kirov class is heavy cruiser, and even battlecruiser in US classification. I think Slava class or Sovremenny class is fair to compairs with Arleigh Burk class.
ОтветитьThis video certainly hasn't aged very well. Ukraine's been able to prove all of this as complete bunk using the lowest quality weapons in NATO's arsenal.
ОтветитьBurke can destroy a Kirov many times over
ОтветитьNone of the us ships weapons can hit the cruiser once Submerged… checkmate NATO… lol
ОтветитьIt’s not just the “Equipment”, it’s the Storied 250 yr history of US Navy & it’s lessons learned from the best… the British Navy. Training, naval personnel & tactics. So yes, I would fully expect US/UK smaller vessels to overwhelm the larger Russian ships.
Ответитьya do your do, buts its - arleigh burke class destroyer.
ОтветитьThis assumes everything operates as promised on a Russo vessel! Can you say Kursk, Kuznetzov, Moscow’s?
ОтветитьKirov 4 in service
Burke 72 in service
Here From The future this fight might take place here soon
Ответитьif you are playing world of warships the answer would be no since one in russian
ОтветитьIf there is really a war then all missiles will be filled with nuclear... just close to 1 kilometer is enough to annihilate the entire group of ships into steam... that's why Kirov is called the killer of the US ship group... only need 1 ship is enough
ОтветитьCorrect me if I’m wrong, but would the Burke not deploy torpedoes at close range? Or would they be too far away?
ОтветитьWrong. Russian ship maintenance hovers between pathetic and non-existent. Most of their systems are either past the referb cycle, or simply inactive, taking up space. There is also the addition of the TASM to the newest flight of Burkes...Kirov cannot defend against it.
ОтветитьIf the Kirov were properly maintained and upgraded, as it was during the Soviet Union, it should win. However, it's safe to assume that the Kirov class ships are in a bad state of repair, and an Arleigh Burke would win. Not that a 1v1 would ever realistically happen in the first place.
Ответитьsorry burke would ace these ships
ОтветитьYou keep forgetting that there is only one Kirov class afloat. It would be outnumbered in any rational scenario. Also, the AEGIS system can detect surface vessels at a MUCH MUCH greater range than anything Russia has, even with helicopters. I don't se a scenario where Russia would be able to sneak up on any US vessel.
ОтветитьКстати, всего построили 4 линкора типа Киров
ОтветитьКстати, уже давно разработан проект модернизации 2 супер атомных ракетных линкора типа Киров, и там вооружение, понятное дело более сильное...
ОтветитьSmoking did the job all by itself according to the politburo 😂
Ответитьit depends on who gets first shot off
ОтветитьOne anti- tugboat round should about do it.
ОтветитьBased on what happened to the Moskva and the fact that their aircraft carrier, when it actually moves, is followed around by a tugboat, the Kirov is likely mechanically upfughed.
ОтветитьKurov gana.
ОтветитьWouldn't it be more fair to assess a battle between the entire Kirov fleet vs. the entire Burke fleet?
ОтветитьThe US sub would end this before it got started.
ОтветитьKirov would last about 30 minutes if it could even get there.
ОтветитьThis is assuming that all of the Kirovs weapons and radar systems work properly, which as we've seen with the Moskva, isn't very likely.
ОтветитьWith Captain Chandler we’ll win. Am I the only one thinking of The Last Ship?
ОтветитьNo. Nope. Kirov would break down and a Ukranian Farmer in a Green Tugboat would come take it away.
ОтветитьNo. Nope. Kirov would break down and a Ukranian Farmer in a Green Tugboat would come take it away.
ОтветитьThings to consider, 1) neither ship will be by itself and I guarantee a Burke will have another Burke Class ship nearby to create a crossfire. 2) Maintenance and leadership will play a huge a crucial advantage, both are lacking as proven by the Russian military currently in the Ukraine. US leadership trains it's leaders to be creative as the Russians usually follow doctrine. 3) No matter how big and bad the Russians think the Kirov is, it can be defeated. Think back to the "unstoppable" ships of WWII: the Bismark/Tirpitz and the Yamamoto.
ОтветитьThe more you learn about US Warships , the more you understand how lethal and superior they are to most everything on the globe, UK and Japanese warships are very close in comparison, the AEGIS a missile defense system is in its own league, nothing comes close, China knows this.
ОтветитьBurke only needs enough fuel to run back to its carrier fighter cover. Kirov, stuck perpetually in port with broken-down engines, has nowhere to run away to.
ОтветитьUkraine took out the Moskva, the flagship of the Blacksea fleet.
Obviously the Americans can, they have #1 navy in the world.
Us ships would destroy any Russian
Ответитьcan a Russian Battlecruiser defeat 2 Neptune missiles? NO, it can't!
ОтветитьPutina only has one "operational" battlecruiser in the Northern Fleet (Pyotyr Veliky). The last time it was at sea was in August of last year. Every time it does go to sea it needs a year of repairs to keep it running. Hardly a threat to NATO.
Ответить"Khinzhal" is just an iskander.
ОтветитьLol the Russian ship and equipment would have to actually work first.
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