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I have to say as a man that has held a covenant theology for over 20 years. I don’t recognize what this guy is talking about.
ОтветитьDr. BARNETT
Please explain if spiritual gifts are active today
This was quite possible the worst analysis of Covenant Theology that I've ever heard. It's not even close. It was entirely a deliberate misrepresentation of an ancient position set up as a strawman argument so he could easily knock it down.
ОтветитьThis is a completely terrible teaching concerning covenant theology. So much false information and misconceptions.
ОтветитьForget everything he said about dispensations. He is wrong or a liar.
ОтветитьJohn Nelson Darby (18 November 1800 – 29 April 1882) was an Anglo-Irish Bible teacher, one of the influential figures among the original Plymouth Brethren and the founder of the Exclusive Brethren. He is considered to be the father of modern Dispensationalism and Futurism. Pre-tribulation rapture theology was popularized extensively in the 1830s by John Nelson Darby and the Plymouth Brethren,[1] and further popularized in the United States in the early 20th century by the wide circulation of the Scofield Reference Bible.[2]
If the Church started to believe in dispensationalism not even 200 years ago; it must be questioned. On foundation which!
Francisco Ribera (1537–1591) was a Spanish Jesuit theologian, identified with the Futurist Christian eschatological view.
On sandy foundation of the antichrist the Papacy Rev 14:8, 17:1,2, 19:2, wine of false doctrine, on 7 hills Rev 17:9.
So you’re saying that Christ doesn’t return with his saints and we rule and reign with him in the millennium?
ОтветитьNo matter what eschatological school you adhere to, you should read "There Really Is A Difference" by Renald E Showers. It explores the history of eschatological thought down from the time of the 1st C Church. It is a biblical explanation.
ОтветитьWhat about people who are in the middle? Like, I think physical Israel still has rights to the land and has an ongoing place in God’s plan, but I do think Ezekiel 40-48 is symbolic.
ОтветитьInteresting that he always uses X for Christ! Seems awfully odd for a Pastor to do this.
ОтветитьI'm stunned. It's like children playing make-believe. But they know they're just playing.
ОтветитьTo understand the Bible we must always remember that God build His Church from tne beginning of time all people of God know its a spiritual Kingdom.The same Spirit that saves Abraham Isak and Jacob is the same Spirit of God that bring all people who believe into God Kingdom all the saints on earth new that it wont be a earthly Kingdom from Abraham to the last gentile wait for the new heavenly Jerusalem ( new heavens and earth) also King David throne which Jesus Christ took over with that in mind people wont even listen to all this last days heresys thats been preached to mislead people who afe bound to this earth ( Heb 11) explaine all this and i believe that all the children of God understand it very well.Jesus Christ our Lord said it very clearly that His Kingdom is not of this world.God will not will not that one of His elect children fall into this trap of all this nònsence that all this end time churches preach.
ОтветитьThis is not a clear explanation of covenant theology.
ОтветитьThere’s a good portion of dispensationalists that would not agree with this framing. They believe salvation was through works in certain dispensations.
ОтветитьThank you for this breakdown on Reformed Theology. It’s a theological cancer that’s taken over our churches today. It’s fueling the incorrect belief that there will be no Millennial Kingdom and God has no future plans for Israel and ignore what the verses say. But this is all prophetical bc it’s causing the apostasy in our churches that Paul mentions in 2 Thess 2:3, and Jude warns the church about the apostasy in the last days in the book of Jude. Paul talked at length about the hostility from church members against the Truth in 2 Timothy 3.
Thank you for explaining.
This is pretty obviously biased and his understanding of covenant theology is categorically incorrect in many instances.
ОтветитьIs pastor John Barnett and his Calvary dispensationistsalists??
ОтветитьIs there a longer version to this?
ОтветитьDid he really use the “covenant of works isn’t in the Bible” argument to prove there is no such thing as a covenant of works? Neither is “dispensation of innocence, dispensation of conscience”, etc, etc. Neither is the word “Trinity” in the Bible for that matter. smh.
ОтветитьNew Covenant Israel Theology
God made a New Covenant with the house of Israel into which 11 Israelites, having been discipled by God's genuine Son, entered. When Jesus of Nazareth (while still on the cross) drank the fruit of the vine, that New Covenant became active. Since Jesus had never sinned, all the blessing of the law of Moses became His inheritance- and the Treasury of New Covenant Israel. Since then, the gospel has been believed by gentiles who have been adopted into the house of Israel.
Please, anyone that is reading the comments, know that this man doesn’t have the slightest clue on covenant theory. This is a distortion of the belief of the church and nearly all Christians for nearly 2000 years.
One thing I have learned from watching so many of these videos is that if you have a white board you are a dispensationalist…
The church is not equal to Israel??? What a quack this guy is
ОтветитьSoft Supersessionist here.
Ответитьwith this new land or kingdom, and they live forever, where is heaven
ОтветитьThe church didn’t replace Israel, Jesus Christ did. We are in Israel when we are in Christ.
ОтветитьThanks so much for this clear and needed teaching
ОтветитьThis brother in Christ is either ignorant of Covenant Theology or is so enamored with his own preferred system so as to intentionally present it in such an inaccurate light. Either way, he should suffer a lifetime ban on owning a dry-erase marker.
ОтветитьGuy says "they call themselves the coviNANTers or something, I don't know." Lol, okay I'm sure this will be an accurate representation of their view...lol. also it's not like it's a new fringe view, it's literally at least 500 years old since it's been well ironed out and arguably far older with elements of it present with the church fathers. If anything is the weird, fringe view, it's dispensationalism lol
ОтветитьI think this is simplistic and placing labels results in caricature and misrepresentation.
ОтветитьSupersessionism is an antisemitic and hateful heresy against the Jews!
If the Jews lost God’s Everlasting Covenant and promises because of their sin, logic dictates that if gentile Christians sin, they also lose God's Everlasting Covenant promises as well, because of the following passage of scripture so clearly stated:
Acts 10:34-43 NLT — Then Peter replied, “I see very clearly that God shows no favoritism. In every nation, he accepts those who fear him and do what is right. This is the message of Good News for the people of Israel—that there is peace with God through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all. You know what happened throughout Judea, beginning in Galilee, after John began preaching his message of baptism. And you know that God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power. Then Jesus went around doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with him. “And we apostles are witnesses of all he did throughout Judea and in Jerusalem. They put him to death by hanging him on a cross, but God raised him to life on the third day. Then God allowed him to appear, not to the general public, but to us whom God had chosen in advance to be his witnesses. We were those who ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead. And he ordered us to preach everywhere and to testify that Jesus is the one appointed by God to be the judge of all—the living and the dead. He is the one all the prophets testified about, saying that everyone who believes in him will have their sins forgiven through his name.”
God is not a respector of persons! The following passage could not be more clearly written.
Romans 11:1-24 NLT — "I ask, then, has God rejected his own people, the nation of Israel? Of course not! I myself am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham and a member of the tribe of Benjamin. No, God has not rejected his own people, whom he chose from the very beginning. Do you realize what the Scriptures say about this? Elijah the prophet complained to God about the people of Israel and said, “LORD, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars. I am the only one left, and now they are trying to kill me, too.” And do you remember God’s reply? He said, “No, I have 7,000 others who have never bowed down to Baal!” It is the same today, for a few of the people of Israel have remained faithful because of God’s grace—his undeserved kindness in choosing them. And since it is through God’s kindness, then it is not by their good works. For in that case, God’s grace would not be what it really is—free and undeserved. So this is the situation: Most of the people of Israel have not found the favor of God they are looking for so earnestly. A few have—the ones God has chosen—but the hearts of the rest were hardened. As the Scriptures say,
“God has put them into a deep sleep.
To this day, he has shut their eyes so they do not see,
and closed their ears so they do not hear.” Likewise, David said,
“Let their bountiful table become a snare,
a trap that makes them think all is well.
Let their blessings cause them to stumble,
and let them get what they deserve. Let their eyes go blind so they can not see,
and let their backs be bent forever.” Did God’s people stumble and fall beyond recovery? Of course not! They were disobedient, so God made salvation available to the Gentiles. But he wanted his own people to become jealous and claim it for themselves. Now, if the Gentiles were enriched because the people of Israel turned down God’s offer of salvation, think how much greater a blessing the world will share when they finally accept it. I am saying all this, especially for you Gentiles. God has appointed me as the apostle to the Gentiles. I stress this, for I want somehow to make the people of Israel jealous of what you Gentiles have, so I might save some of them. For since their rejection meant that God offered salvation to the rest of the world, their acceptance will be even more wonderful. It will be life for those who were dead! And since Abraham and the other patriarchs were holy, their descendants will also be holy—just as the entire batch of dough is holy because the portion given as an offering is holy. For if the roots of the tree are holy, the branches will be, too. But some of these branches from Abraham’s tree—some of the people of Israel—have been broken off. And you Gentiles, who were branches from a wild olive tree, have been grafted in. So now you also receive the blessing God has promised Abraham and his children, sharing in the rich nourishment from the root of God’s special olive tree. But you must not brag about being grafted in to replace the branches that were broken off. You are just a branch, not the root. “Well,” you may say, “those branches were broken off to make room for me.” Yes, but remember—those branches were broken off because they didn’t believe in Christ, and you are there because you do believe. So don’t think highly of yourself, but fear what could happen. For if God did not spare the original branches, he won’t spare you either. Notice how God is both kind and severe. He is severe toward those who disobeyed but kind to you if you continue to trust in his kindness. But if you stop trusting, you also will be cut off. And if the people of Israel turn from their unbelief, they will be grafted in again, for God has the power to graft them back into the tree. You, by nature, were a branch cut from a wild olive tree. So, if God was willing to do something contrary to nature by grafting you into his cultivated tree, He will be far more eager to graft the original branches back into the tree where they belong."
Supersessionism, replacement theology, and fulfillment theolgy are three names for the same heretical non-scriptural teaching that the Church has replaced Israel. God's Providence, Mercy and Grace will save Jew and gentile in His beautiful master plan created by His Son Jesus Christ, Yeshua Hamashiach, Whose precious blood atonement as God's Passover Lamb paid for the sins of all those who call upon and have faith in His Name, both wild and original branches of the olive tree, Christ Himself being "The Vine", "The Root of Jesse". Faith alone in Jesus alone, the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, the King of the Jews, the Kinsman Redeemer of the Church His Bride like in the Book of Ruth. Boaz and Ruth are a "type and shadow" of Christ and the Church written prophetically in the Old Testament scriptures of the Jews by a Prophet of God. Yeshua Hamashiach is both the "King of the Jews" and the "Head of the Body of Christ".
I hold to progressive covenantalism
ОтветитьThe real issue with dispensationalism is the idolatry of Israel
ОтветитьCovenant Theology ultimately leads to replacement theology which is very dangerous. We did NOT replace Israel. According to Ezekiel 40-48 and Revelation 20 the messianic kingdom of Israel will have a glorious future during the Millennial reign of Christ. A literal 1000 years after the literal 2nd coming of Christ.
There are at least two reasons why literalism is the best way to view Scripture. First, philosophically, the purpose of language itself requires that we interpret words literally. Language was given by God for the purpose of being able to communicate. Words are vessels of meaning. The second reason is biblical. Every prophecy about Jesus Christ in the Old Testament was fulfilled literally. Jesus’ birth, ministry, death, and resurrection all occurred exactly as the Old Testament predicted. The prophecies were literal. There is no non-literal fulfillment of messianic prophecies in the New Testament. This argues strongly for the literal method. If a literal interpretation is not used in studying the Scriptures, there is no objective standard by which to understand the Bible. Each person would be able to interpret the Bible as he saw fit. Biblical interpretation would devolve into “what this passage says to me” instead of “the Bible says.” Sadly, this is already the case in much of what is called Bible study today.
Dispensational theology teaches that there are two distinct peoples of God: Israel and the Church. Romans 11:25-26 makes that clear. Dispensationalists believe that salvation has always been by grace through faith alone—in God in the Old Testament and specifically in God the Son in the New Testament. Dispensationalists hold that the Church has not replaced Israel in God’s program and that the Old Testament promises to Israel have not been transferred to the Church. Dispensationalism teaches that the promises God made to Israel in the Old Testament (for land, many descendants, and blessings) will be ultimately fulfilled in the 1000-year period spoken of in Revelation 20. Dispensationalists believe that, just as God is in this age focusing His attention on the Church, He will again in the future focus His attention on Israel (see Romans 9–11 and Daniel 9:24).
Gross misrepresentation of Covenant Theology, clearly this man only knows CT from dispensationalists, but he believes a 200year revelation that Darby says he was given
ОтветитьThis dude sounds like Letterman.
ОтветитьProbably only 3 or 4 dispensations but generally the concept is correct. I am Mid-Acts Dispensational (after Saul / Paul saved)
ОтветитьAren’t 100% of Calvinists also 100% Democrats?
ОтветитьAt the end of the day, only the Holy Spirit can give you the insight to understand the Word, John 16:13 & 1 John 2:27!
ОтветитьWhen people get so smart, they forget it's actually about Jesus and the gospel.
ОтветитьYou don’t put new wine into old wine skins there is no Spirit in the old covenant . They think the old wine is better. Hebrews talks about a better covenant, the new covenant, the old is passing away. Better promises in the new.
ОтветитьI was raised in the dispensational world and attended a dispensationalist seminary. Ive been studying reformed theology intently for over two years and i don't recognise anything this man has said about Calvinism. All i can say at this point is this: if you want to learn about Calvinism, go somewhere else.
ОтветитьThank you for an unbiased presentation and simplifying something thats grown into some kind of splintered explanation of how God does business. Hebrews 4:12 “The Word of God is Living”. Both sides have valid points but at the end of the day it’s just another label to identify with. Is one side or the other going to negate the sacrifice of Jesus Christ made for humanity? I think I’ll just sit back and let the theologians bicker over this. In the end it’s not going to amount to a hill of beans.
ОтветитьNow quote a single Church Father who held similar beliefs
ОтветитьThank you sir
ОтветитьNo 1000 year reign of Christ means they deny him as LORD.
ОтветитьNeither I nor anyone that I know of that teaches covenant theology believe that the promises are now applied excluslively to the church or that the church has replaced Israel. We do believe that the promises of God to Israel apply equally to the church but we also believe that God loves Israel is restoring her and one day she will be turned to the Lord
ОтветитьSo I suppose that I am an orthodox catholic protestant reformed evangelical covenant dispensationalist.
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