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Funny how we value free will when it favours us but if that free will leads us to hating each other we blame it on god.
ОтветитьThe mentality of deflecting your responsibilities will destroy the next generation of Europeans, if not careful. So, it is God's fault that Adam chose to be independent of God by seeking knowledge that will lead to death. God didn't create the world to control it, if he did, we will be humanoids left with no will. The issue now is how we choose to use the will, God will respect everybody's choices. Don't blame God for homosexuality, LGBT Q, drug addiction, beastiality etc and come back to ask 'why'...from God
ОтветитьWhen God created the earth, everything was good, it was sin that brought suffering,is it God that caused wars too
ОтветитьI love Stephen Fry in many ways, however on this issue, he proves beyond doubt, that Intelligence does Not equate to Wisdom.
Because imo, Wisdom demands ‘nuance’, and Atheism tends to discard it Outright, for if it didn’t, one would Agnostic.
I have a lot of respect for Mr Fry apart from his addictions .
When he and many other of his upper middle class piers were struggling with cocaine and gambling ,many old people were struggling with intruders beating them black and blue and to steal from them all their prized posessions in order to fuel their cocaine habit .This in the UK was common place .Also
I was an extra on a programme called Alfresco .Listening to Fry talking to Robbie Coltrane was fascinating on the bus out to location .
Ben Elton was really nice and thanked me for "saving" a take on a freezing cold day in a field .We all wanted to go home .Oh the joys .
Re religion ,whats with all the dressing up in robes etc .?To subjugate people ? .To "lord " it over the faithfull congregation .I think its more sinister and it has a" ring" to it .
ОтветитьOh, good lord ... has this man never read any Leibniz? These questions have already been dealt with 315 years ago. Perhaps Fry doesn't read much.
ОтветитьYeah sure, a human walks to the big man himself and have enough balls to tell that to his face.😂😂😂😂 It’s not that they don’t believe, they don’t want to.
ОтветитьGod actually did make a perfect world free of pain and death. Man rebelled and ruined it.
ОтветитьYou wouldn’t say anything like this to god you little twirp! You’d fall on your knees and beg for forgiveness! Little blasphemous pervert!
ОтветитьInfantile mind
ОтветитьYou believe we are the result of cosmic accident with life being meaningless & worthless. How do you call anything evil?
ОтветитьFry does not understand about what sin did to creation. He also ignores the consequences of free will. He gets to make his comments because God gave us all a free will. When man brought sin into the creation, the consequences included diseases sad as that can be. Fry misses the point that Jesus Christ has brought the solution. Instead of being an angry man shaking his fist at God, he should turn to God, repent and believe in the mercy and grace of God to die in his place, so that he also can live in an eternity with God and without the curses of sin.
ОтветитьSuch misconceptions and misunderstandings will lead many people to hell.
This is a corrupt world, it wasn't you or I that corrupted it, it was mankind's free will and choices. It wasn't God, it was us. God gave us every chance to live a great life and help others, some understand that and others blame God for our own sins and corruption.
Either we can try to make it better, or we can make it worse.
Jesus taught to make it better, He IS God in the flesh.
Because of OUR sins, we must have a sacrifice for our sins to be forgiven because sin is so much worse than people realize.
The loving God that we have, chose to become the sacrifice for us. He took ALL of our sins on the cross so that we could be forgiven and that we could spend eternity with Him in heaven.
A man that you don't even know, chose to be crusified for YOU, so that you could grow a relationship with Him forever in heaven.
Imagine if someone took a bullet for you, yet you don't even take the time to try to learn who he is or give thanks, you instead blame him because you fell while he was saving you.. That's Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior in the flesh. He gave His life for us knowing that we are sinners and that many of us won't even bother getting to know the God that created and loves us.
Speaking as a grandfather who lost a grandson at age 5 to cancer, Mr. Fry is wrong. He asserts the misery is not our fault.
This is the core of the problem we face, and the difference between pride and humility. What happens in the world IS OUR FAULT. We are the ones given charge of the world.
If you are asserting that it was not your son's fault, that may be true. But this is a world of cause and effect. Whether God exists or not, we face the environment we create. And cancer is largely man-made.
Someone just looked like he sucked on a lemon😂. NEVER, EVER tangle with Stephen Fry.
ОтветитьA GTA character complains to the GTA game developer about unacceptablity of the game terms
In general I may agree what he says but hey, what we can do about it? If God exists He is the boss and anything we say and complain about is just irrelevant in that situation...
“How dare you”
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An atheist is a fool
ОтветитьCan Stephen Fry answer how he knows what is good and evil? And from where? Anybody?
ОтветитьSo God his monstrous and man isn't Evil. Stephen, it's the other way round. God made this world perfect and and man created Evil on earth.
Ответить‘They’re either a liar or a fool’ … it was more about gayness man
ОтветитьAnd intellectual vanity
ОтветитьAny book any movie is sanctioned in accordance with Agendas
ОтветитьYou’re going to say otherwise?
ОтветитьHis answer should have been, "Todays Scientists should be thinking about life, rather than any monetary value and carry on with only the certainty of saving lives" This is what most people believe science is about.
ОтветитьWhy is the world unfair? Very simple because if there’s a god, he doesn’t want it to be.
ОтветитьAn omniscient, omnipotent God who watches children die of cancer, genocides unfold, and innocent suffering with infinite power to stop it,yet does nothing,is not worthy of worship, but of contempt.
ОтветитьIs God causing cancer and untimely death? , is God causing the unending wars and suffering of the masses ? is God selling and forcing fake drugs on the people, Is God causing poor leadership and poor choices ? Blame God for everything except you , politicians ,journalists and media networks who censores us ..
Ответить““As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.”
Isaiah 55:9 NIV
Humans forget they are the creation, humans forget it was a human who first sinned first for all of man kind after Adam. A just God can’t let sin go unpunished and therefore gave us the justice we deserve. But with that justice God gave His Son to pay for our debt. Life on earth isnt our purpose, life in the presence of the living God in worship is our purpose. Tho i die, I live. Because I have life given by Jesus.
"Without a little pain, no one will know what happiness is."
~Offending Everybody
Thei problem in life but l stand here as Christian, lam telling god didn't forsaken you , he has aplan for you for omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent.
ОтветитьOoh, I know why God allows evil! Because you can’t have light without dark… of course! God chose to suffer with us. Also, free will. There.
ОтветитьWhy is he angry with something or someone who he thinks doesn't exist?
ОтветитьWhy is Stephen so repulsed by the idea of cancer in children if we’re all just randomly assembled carbon based life forms?
ОтветитьA just God would care more about how you live your life than how many Sundays you spend on your knees praising Him—for a universe that holds both beauty and monstrosities.
ОтветитьEven if there is a god I don't really think he cares anymore. He send down his son to us who told us 'be nice to eachother' and he got crucified for it
ОтветитьOh dear, Stephen it's called free will. Humans were given a world, they created it, not God.
Cancers are man made. Nice to interact with brain dead people though xxx
There is a difference between tragedy and evil.
ОтветитьAtheist argument: if God real why bad things happen. If God real why I homo.
ОтветитьStephen Fry is a dork. God isn't evil. God loves you and your family. God allows suffering because humans brought evil into the world through the sinful fall. Suffering is a reminder that our earthly life is Mortal and fleeting, and that we should prioritise knowing Jesus that we might have eternal life in heaven and telling as many people as we can about Jesus that they might have eternal life in heaven also.
ОтветитьGay Byrne,Tool, well said SF
ОтветитьHe wanted to be a robot?
Ответитьlol yup life is all rainbows and unicorns untill you or a family members eyes are being burowed by insects
ОтветитьStephen Fry is Jewish.
ОтветитьWhat a boring pompous buffoon
ОтветитьA world is created with the ability to solve things, have actions discourse and be given morals. It’s a giant flexible creative field. Maybe we deviated from grace in the eyes of our children and their future.?
ОтветитьWhat a dishonest and/or idiotic thing to say. Atheists do not fall for these dishonest or unreasonable hypotheticals. Hope that the hypothetical Stephen fry continues to think it was worth it while he hypothetically burns for eternity.
ОтветитьSays the guy who lives in a country and serves a ruler who is evil and unjust. No, old hag, you would beg for mercy and fall in line. You’re not the brave/foolish soul you pretend to be. Pompous. What a dishonest and/or idiotic thing to say. Atheists do not fall for these dishonest or unreasonable hypotheticals. Hope that the hypothetical Stephen fry continues to think it was worth it while he hypothetically burns for eternity.
ОтветитьYou hit it out of the park Stephen!
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