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Omg I’m so happy I found you, your videos are so well researched! I love learning about this time period
ОтветитьI heard about a finishing school for young ladies. When they finished, they would be finished.
ОтветитьHuh the upper class woman had a much better education than some people would think. Science? That's pretty cool. It seems that while they didn't want women to outshine men they certainly didn't want women to be ignorant.
ОтветитьIs your name really Ellie Dashwood or did you name yourself after one of the most beautiful women in English literature?
ОтветитьGovernesses were poorly paid and living with a family would be expected to pitch-in with general house work. Governesses were the alternative to being an old maid. Harriet, a parlour boarder, was given short shrift in Emma, could we recognise any evidence of accomplishment in her personality?
ОтветитьLexi Thompson, the lady golfer, was home schooled, she drives around in a high end Bentley. Her Mom must have been genius. 😊
ОтветитьGoverness because you get a decent education, stay home and don’t die. I would like also to be homeschooled, my mom is very intelligent and kind. She would probably have been very educated in teaching me.
ОтветитьI would have preferred a panel of tutors to come and teach certain subjects, along with the availability of a large library. One person never has all one would wish to know, so the variety would fill in inevitable holes.
ОтветитьA little Princess isn't taking place in the Regency Era. Im pretty sure it was Victorian. That being said does anyone know any other videos or stuff about this topic. Its something Ive been finding really intresting.
ОтветитьHiii! Can anyone tell me how I can learn about this kind of stuff in Victorian era?
ОтветитьThank you for this video
Ответитьit's called needlework not sewing.
ОтветитьIt’s been a while since I read P/P so I could be misremembering, but when I was a teenager and read this exchange between Lizzy and CDB I read her as a huge jerk. Which, she is. But the more I listen to these videos the more I realize that she was pointing out some of the gross negligence the Bennet’s had over their daughters. At 2200 a year (2k from Mr Bennet and 200 annual interest from Mrs Bennets dowery) they should have been able to save a better dowery and hire a governess for the girls. 5 girls out in society was way too much for one mother to successfully instruct and chaperone. Jane and Lizzy fared ok, but they were also the eldest and would have had the most 1:1 attention from Mrs Bennet. By the time the younger girls were out she was laser focused on getting the older girls married and not instructing the younger girls, plus she wasn’t exactly the best person to be overseeing them anyway. She was a middle class woman who married up and probably wasn’t as knowledgeable about the nuances of the landed gentry. I wonder what would have happened to Lydia if, instead of being out in society, she spent all those balls at home getting put in line by a firm but fair governess forcing her to practice French. And, after some quick math, even if they just held off on taking the 4% interest from Mrs bennets dowery, the sum would have doubled by the time Jane was 18. Imagine Lydia out in society at 17 or 18, with a 2k dowery, and a strong education. Older sisters are married and an acceptable chaperone minding her manners. She could have such a better situation
ОтветитьI’d go for the Governess or Boarding School. Relying entirely on what your own mother was taught (and her ability to teach) would not be sufficient for me. I think Governess be great for the individual attention and focus on subjects of interest- its fun hearing of the art, music, and sewing they learned bc those are my hobbies in my spare time. But boarding school may be bad by the Sermon standard, but as a teen I’d probably enjoy the ‘poor morals and vanity’. Of course, the majority of people werent getting a big education at all- though we were in the beginning of the 1800s push for public education and schoolhouses for the labor population. And my family be in that class if not shop-owners,, sooo.
ОтветитьYou missed one method: sitting in with your brother's classes from his tutor. Many memoirs and biographies mention this.
ОтветитьJane Eyer by Charlotte Bronte the main character grew up in a boarding school, I pretty poor one. And eventually became a Governess
Interesting stuff
What about the education of boys/ men at that time? Of course they can study at universities and co, but what before that? And how regulated were the schools?
ОтветитьWhen would they start all of this learning? At what age? Just curious. Thank you! Love your videos. ❤️
ОтветитьI wrote a research paper on girls’ and women’s education for my master’s degree for the middle and upper class. My alma mater, founded in the Victorian era, was one of the first girls-only schools focusing on academics and university prep.
ОтветитьWith our family, home schooling would have been best. We had quite a few musicians, inventors, and history buffs among our relatives. Dancing masters could have been imported. Plus, mom was very intellegent.
ОтветитьWe need the tea on Vanity Fair. Becky was a governess who graduated from a school:)
ОтветитьDid girls learn math? Was this just how it was in England or was it the same in other countries?
ОтветитьSchool was RUN
ОтветитьGoverness!! But the mom with a lot of masters can be an option, only the mothers is not good enough. Also a lot of books. Where you can find all the books you don’t have at home? Public library existed?
ОтветитьI would’ve wanted to go to boarding school because my family intentionally sabotaged my education. They would’ve been able to neglect it even more in the regency era! They also isolated me a lot. Even if I’d gone to an awful boarding school at least I wouldn’t have been as alone
ОтветитьI'm a governess girl, all the way. 😂
ОтветитьEn un libro sobre el teorema de Fermat, mencionan un libro que tenía "suficiente conocimiento de matemáticas como para que una señorita pueda conversar con un matemático sin aburrirlo, pero no demasiado para deje de ser adecuado para una mujer" 🤦🏼♀️
ОтветитьTheir education doesn't sound so bad tbh.
ОтветитьAnne Elliot knows Italian, French, music, drawing, household management. She was an educated woman.
Jane Fairfax was pitied because she had to take employment as a governess.
As for trying not to get girls too educated because no one would marry her; it just echoes what many educated women hear even these days, that they are too accomplished to attract a husband and men fear them. I heard this myself from my family and know many women who also got such comments from theirs; it's sad that it's been two hundred years and women are still put down in the name of getting married.
ОтветитьI just wanted to say I love your channel so so so much ❤️
ОтветитьI'm not sure many Americans can put the map of Europe back together either.
ОтветитьMy 3rd grade teacher told my parents that I was not paying attention in class and that I would fail high school. My mom took up the challenge of homeschooling me every summer break until I skipped 11th grade and graduated with honors in 1970 and then with degrees from colleges in 1973, in 1976, and attended 2 master's programs until 1996. . .
ОтветитьGoverness, definitely.
I'd love to homeschool my own children though.
I kept waiting to hear about math because that's so important for running her household, far more so than dancing and penmanship. And why would a father not teach his children, obviously he'd be more likely to know more and own the books. Plus he wasn't exactly out doing work as a gentleman.
ОтветитьMy main question is why did people send their daughters to boarding school. I know for some parents it was probally they didnt want to deal with their kids, and for some poorer familes it might be the best education. But if not the case, why.
ОтветитьWasn't basics of running a household also part of their education?
ОтветитьWhen I was a kid, I read too many stories about girls in boarding schools where even though they weren’t perfect that sounded better than living at my house. Education was not really a thing where I lived. I wanted to go to boarding school and get away so bad. I also figured that. Maybe I would learn some social graces that I was unable to learn in my home. Looking back the only boarding schools I ever saw discussed in real life were the kind you sent problem children too, and I wasn’t one of those what I’m grateful for. I think I had an idea of a girls version of you know a prep school. I wanted to be prepped for college and nobody ever prepped me. I lived in an area where it wasn’t a big deal for people who didn’t go and the people who did go, just took it for granted and yeah, that was my feeling. So I probably would’ve died in the flu, epidemic or something.
I think being raised by an absent minded Professor father who had three boys and just let me join in his lessons would’ve probably been an excellent way to be educated.
This is why who a man chose to marry was so important, his wife was likely going to be his daughter’s primary tutor. If she was low class with no education, so would his daughters be unless he paid for a tutor
ОтветитьHow much of this was true for the Americas at the time? Was it more relaxed or pretty similar? The only novel close to the era I can think of is Little Women but their family did things less traditionally so I feel like it’s harder to know what was common.
ОтветитьMy mother would have made a terrible teacher, and my parents would not have wanted to waste money on a governess. Chances are, I would have been sent to boarding school. I would have convinced them to send me to Hogwarts 😝
ОтветитьI wonder what Quirm College for Young Ladies was like!
Any STP fans here?
Could you do a video on boys' education in regency?
ОтветитьGoverness.
ОтветитьWth is a school district?
And homeschool sounds so creepy. Where do you get such a choice of friends?
Basically, intelligent women were cursed, stupid women were celebrated, and anyone in the middle were luck of the draw.
ОтветитьNo mention of mathematics, which they'd need for running an house.
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