They Broke The Marathon Again

What exactly do you mean by “ they broke the marathon again”

Kiptum's death is one of the biggest losses to the sport of running ever. Truly a legend.

Maybe someone has said it already but, I predict that the people who will break the barriers you presented both for me and for women are alive now and probably even ran today.

Super Shoes might give a 1min 30s edge to the fastest racers, but it doesn't account for the drops of massive times for both men and women racers. This is where probably the biggest technological factors comes into account: FOAM and CUSHIONING.

The new foams permit racers to train longer and more aggressively. How? It lets them RECOVER far faster than they used to and saves their legs when they train. This means that runners can do much higher mileage more often, resulting in better endurance and speed.

With less fatigue also comes more time for Strength training. Couple that with nutrition (on and off course) and all those factors create an environment for speed and progression.

SUPER SHOES ERA!!!!😊

Doping is a key factor…………

super epo

Cannot discount how shoe technology has enabled more and better training

Linear regression show statistical correlation but not causality.

Only a longitudinal randomized experiment can, not necessary on elite athletes but recommend.

you're forgetting another aspect: consuming over 90 grams of carbs per hour in a running race was unthinkable until a few years ago. Today when runners slam 140+ grams per hour they're much further away from emptying their glycogen stores towards the end of the race, can keep their oxidative (fat) metabolism lower (thus use less oxygen at the same pace), their lactate building rates a bit higher and run the whole race at a lactate concentration that's a little bit higher and take advantage of a little bit more anaerobic contribution without bonking. Better shoes, denser competition, more sugar, more spacialists, it all adds up.

The carbon plate should never had been allowed. A line was drawn. You now can't ever compare times over history. Pity.

paula was doping stop glazing her

Doping ?

Fueling leading to wider glycogen availability across 120-125 minutes is key, 30k wall is long forgotten at these levels.

Revolutionary shoes = Revolutionary running times.

How does the development of performance enhancing drugs look like in the last decade? And how does marathon runners' strength regiments look like in the last decade compared to 20 years ago?

Bicarb?

No one is mentioning COVID look back at the graphs and overlay the viruses spread … 👀

1%Shoes, 5%Drugs

Have you seen an analysis of age group records? Does this coincide with the elite?

I say this with love! II no with out a doubt that everything we see is influenced by something Unseen! Over in Africa 🌍 they ether serve Jesus or the Demonic! The devil will give you short term success, power and wealth but the cost is separation from God for eternity! Jesus will give you everlasting life, peace, joy and power to overcome darkness! Alot of these athletes are asking for help from the enemy! I love track and field and have seen the good the bad and the ugly! I pray that these athletes call out to Jesus for everlasting life! God bless ❤

Why don't you ever talk about doping.. This channel will lose credibility when the exposure comes.

Love the videos. From sprints to marathon you have amazing passion and analysts.

The main reason for increasing speeds in the marathon (aside from the 1-2% from super shoes) is the increase in carbohydrate fuelling which increases fuel to run fast plus it reduces the increase in oxygen drift that happens with >45min efforts. Plus the elites ARE loading on nitrate which further reduces oxygen drift over the marathon.

Keep the videos coming.

It’s hard for me to comprehend running that fast for 2 hours ❤
It’s all about what we humans believe can be done. I remember being so excited about a pair of Jordan’s when I was 17 that I actually pushed down a two handed dunk after months of trying I was convinced it was the shoes but once I knew I could do it I could have bought a pair of shoes from Walmart by the time I was 19 and it made no difference. 🤣 but I was never a high flyer. I’m just saying the shoes help but once you believe you can hit your goals you start hitting your goals more often.

Would kiptum have dropped hot if he was still around? He broke through so hard.
Not trying to besmirch the character of a dead man it’s just an astonishing entry into the marathon to set a world record on your second attempt.
Was a record holder ever so young

Do you every cover any XC running?

Kipchoge is the GOAT. I don’t think anyone will go under 2 hours like he did. I know technically it didnt count in the record books because of the pacer car, but the point is that the body was capable of it and he did it.

You mentioned the number of performances, but it wasn't clear whether each performance represented a unique athlete or multiple performances by the same athlete.

Given the switch from extremely minimal midsole shoes to the maximalist carbon-plated super-foam shoes, I can imagine athletes take less physical damage from running a marathon now than they used to before the super shoes. This would result in for example, someone like Kipchoge running 3 marathons a year instead of 2, leading to more "performances" that are fast simply because the fast athletes can do more runs with less risk of getting injured.

Not saying the shoes don't also boost running economy and lead to improved times because obviously they do, but I think not factoring in the shoes effect on risk of injury would be excluding a critical benefit of these shoes.

Carbon plated super shoes don’t take it far enough. These shoes need jets attached to them so that genetically modified transgendered women can run a marathon in under an hour.

The average elite top 10 times on both men & women really went down in 2018 when you see the lightweight almost racing weight Super Trainers come into play as well and not just a Super Race Shoe made for racing only/mainly. The Reason besides finding the exact numbers in seeing these times go down even more and not just a genetic lottery from a few who can wear more durable Super Race Shoe models for some training as well as racing is becuse of the shoes for training as well as the racing pairs that are now both saving the legs from wear.

Excellent statistics

Imagine saying it's drugs but having no proof. Armchair experts think they know better than WADA. Just keyboard warriors.

The womens record beats ALL the men up to the year of 1967. When it's the 10000m, that's as far back as 1939. For the mile it's 1933. And for the 100m it's 1921

There is one important factor left out. In the past, marathon runners were not specialists... they had a 5 - 10yr career on the track, then ran marathons at the end of their peak. Now... you get 19 & 20 yr olds skipping the track career & focusing on marathons only while still in their peak condition... ie specialists. Improvement in performance is to be expected (super shoes or no super shoes).

Drug cheating, or doping maybe?

Drugs and more drugs.

We're definitely going to see a sub-2 marathon at some point, but it's hard to predict exactly when, especially after Kiptum's unexpected passing. I don’t think there’s an obvious 'next best' runner who can easily break the two-hour barrier. Naturally, Kipchoge comes to mind as a strong candidate, but given his recent performances, I’m starting to doubt whether he still has it in him to make it happen.

It’s about drugs

The best thing that will happen in track and field, athletics is when a participant in any given event, and I hope all of them, reach the theoretical minimum or maximum of any given event.

I refuse to acknowledge any such thing as a world record. But to the majority of you and most tragically to the promoters only what you judge to be a world record is a worthy effort.

I do not demand in any other sport or endeavor in life that a living man beat the hell out of a dead man.

The NBA has changed her rules so often and the GOAT debate is so loud, rude, and full of ignorance that people have stopped watching the sport.

Please do not turn athletics into tribes watching endless reruns of Usaine Bolt.

I hope the theoretical minimum and maximum all are reached before I hit enter.

The Baskeballafication of all sports has to stop. All of you can help.

Anything that is no a theoretical minimum or maximum is only a personal best period.

Nostradamus you understand that more than any of us. From here on out unless you note the theoretical minimum or maximum you are not done.

Do not leave your work half done.

I think an Olympic year is a drag on times.

its the super shoes, kool aid and pacers(drafting) giving them the edge.

No mention of the elephant in the room?

More prize money attracts more runners with more motivation. Drugs? And the modern shoes create less fatigue in training and racing