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Calling upon the true most powerful one is the logical approach
ОтветитьIt's all done with the knowledge and acknowledgement that our Lord is the source of the power and answer but the call is done out of reverence for saints! They are the door to the final destination in asking for help and guidance from the creator our Lord! In Quran verses- HE purified them. Also, confered blessings upon the Prophet and his family in every prayer in Tashahud!
ОтветитьExcept Allah almighty no one can help not especially any human being. So stop asking from dead ask from Allah who is all times living and all powerful and all are doomed to vanishing except Allah almighty. So don't go near to shirk . Stick to monotheism and toheed which is the essence of Islam. Don't be emotional be logical and apply reasoning.
ОтветитьWhat I know is that after Mulla Sadra all of you have been asserted tafwid which the Imāms of Ahl al-Bayt cursed.
ОтветитьSubhanallah subhanallah subhanallah ❤
ОтветитьYa sahibazzaman
ОтветитьHonestly everyone is confused and its always people standing on the other side putting others to hell/shirk but to those doing it have justifications for it and all this confusion is because religion is man made and I know y’all will come for me but trust me I was there too as a Sunni Muslim to Tariqa tijaniya to Shia and then to quiting cus I know no religion is just man made and non of what we’ve been talking abt is from the source that created or influenced the world existence. Christianity or any other religion is the same confusion. The force behind the world existence is not a living being and it’s nothing like us. It’s a force which we don’t know and can’t describe nor talk to/hear. It has never spoken or heard. It’s always someone who wants to establish superiority saying something spoke to them but doesn’t talk to the rest of the world. I don’t know how they really convinced everyone to believe it 😢
ОтветитьThere is nothing wrong with calling on the ahlul bayt as because we KNOW they are given the power to help us from Allah and without him they are nothing.
Same way you would ask help from a person to give you something (eg a glass of water) but Allah has given the power to him to be able to help you.
This is NOT shirk. Shirk means calling on someone to help you but believing that he is acting of his own power independent of Allah.
Ya al Ali 🙂
ОтветитьShirk Akbar
Ответитьالاستغاثة من دون الله شرك....
ОтветитьHadith of Imam Ali my Shia will be split into 3 groups.
First one will love me so much they will loose their deen .
Second one will hate the they will loose there deen
Between these the middle one is the correct one and be of them they will love me but not to much that they will loose their deen .
Its either My Imam Ali is telling the truth or it's Ayatullah Khoei . You make your choice I will decide to put faith in Imam Ali.
Ya Ali Madad. Haq Haider AS.
ОтветитьYa Ali As❤❤
ОтветитьTotally bull shit, 😢😢😢
ОтветитьBring back Sayed Muhammad Baqer Qazwini
ОтветитьWhat is the rest of the story?
ОтветитьHis argument is flawed. It is based on the fact that tawassul is different to istigatha ...and istigatha is directly calling on ahlul bayt and not Allah
I don't know where he's got this from
Istigatha is to call on someone/ something, to evoke. It has nothing to do with ahlul bayt peace be upon them.
Interestingly, it is mentioned clearly in the quran in relation to Allah SWT
إِذْ تَسْتَغِيثُونَ رَبَّكُمْ فَاسْتَجَابَ لَكُمْ أَنِّي مُمِدُّكُم بِأَلْفٍ مِّنَ الْمَلَائِكَةِ مُرْدِفِينَ ﴿٩ الأنفال﴾
˹Remember˺ when you cried out to your Lord (istigatha) for help, He answered, “I will reinforce you with a thousand angels—followed by many others.” al anfal, 9
وَالَّذِي قَالَ لِوَالِدَيْهِ أُفٍّ لَّكُمَا أَتَعِدَانِنِي أَنْ أُخْرَجَ وَقَدْ خَلَتِ الْقُرُونُ مِن قَبْلِي وَهُمَا يَسْتَغِيثَانِ اللَّهَ وَيْلَكَ آمِنْ إِنَّ وَعْدَ اللَّهِ حَقٌّ فَيَقُولُ مَا هَـٰذَا إِلَّا أَسَاطِيرُ الْأَوَّلِينَ
But some scold their parents, “Enough with you! Are you warning me that I will be brought forth ˹from the grave˺, while many generations had already perished before me ˹for good˺?” The parents cry to Allah (istigatha) for help, ˹and warn their child,˺ “Pity you. Have faith! Surely Allah’s promise is true.” But the deniers insist, “This is nothing but ancient fables.”
Al ahqaf 17
As for saying ya ali...It depends on the intention
The question I would like to ask is this...
We love and respect sayyed Al khoei ...may Allah have mercy on his soul
But did the the prophet or any of the ahlul bayt used to say 'ya Ali' or ya Muhammad when they got up from the floor ? Is this what the quran teaches us ?
This is literally shirk billah, al khoei is a mushrik for doing this and anyone else who does this
ОтветитьWith all due respect to Ayatollah Khoei (r), he is not hujjah!! He was a fallible scholar. His works have a number of inconsistencies and mistakes! May Allah have mercy on him.
ОтветитьWhats the difference between this and what the mushrikeen of Quraish did with Al Laat and Al Uzza
ОтветитьHONESTLY...MAULA ALI always help when we call....MOMENEEN always say YA ALI as all the time....LAKH JAN FIDA ON MAULA ALI as ❤️....
ОтветитьAyatollah Ali Sistani quit politician in like 2001 or something and all of sudden he is one of the targets of israel, hehe
ОтветитьIMAM MAHDI (ATFS) says "'IF YOU'VE ANY DIFFICULTY THEN YOU CAN SHARE IT WITH ME." Ref- Shiftagaan Hazrat Mahci volume page 327. This means we can ask him directly but baring in mind that all affairs is handled by Allah swt.
ОтветитьSo he doesn't like help from Allah swt, but only wants it from his creation?
nice story wonder how much of it is correct.
I am a partisant of Ahlul Bayt myself, but this video is void of argument, ration or logic. I was searching for arguments for istigatha and this one is certainly not of them. It is quite a shame, because these videos are viewed by everyone, and with no context this would only repulse one to investigate further.
ОтветитьWho is this ghali zindeeq
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