Does Louisiana Creole culture & language come from Haiti?

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Kouri vini that’s haitian créole ❤️

From the little I've heard on social media, I feel that Kouri Vini is not particularly difficult to understand if you speak Haitian creole (perhaps I haven't heard enough sustained conversations to form an educated opinion though). It seems to me that it gets even more intelligible if you speak both creole and French fluently. And I can hear Québec accents and wording into it too at times. No doubt that Louisiana creole was formed before Haitians migrated there. I don't think that's in question. However , all creoles are syncretic languages (as in they easily and quickly absorb elements of other languages they come in contact with. That's just the nature of creole tongues. Hence since Haitians doubled the population of New Orleans upon arrival in the early 1800s, would it not make sense that Haitian creole would also have had a bit of an influence on how NOLA creole was spoken going forward, a few words or turns of phrases that would have been brought over? Do linguistics experts have any theories on that? It would probably be easier to determine if there were more Louisiana creole speakers left.

It always surprises people to learn that Louisiana Creoles have a small number of Haitians who mixed with their group long ago, but the Creoles already were a melting pot of French, German, Spanish, African, and Native American. Louisiana Creoles are one of the most unique American ethnic groups.

You look beautiful in purple! I was wondering if Haitians played a role in Louisiana Creole. Yep each Caribbean Island and Latin American country has it's own flavor.

You do know the creole language has nothing to do with africa or Spanish or any other people or language right? Creole was already being spoken before colonial times. Most the Caribbean countries spoke a creole language too but after they were colonized by Spain, brits or France the language of the colonizers were pushed in schools. But great presentation!

No Louisiana Creole and Haitians are not the same. No disrespect, but no we are not. My blood came from the slaves of Louisiana not Haiti. I am so glad you're teaching the truth. People need to know😅

Hi!! I'm from Lafayette, new to your channel! And I definitely agree, two different things baby 😆Yes some (including myself) may have a Haitian in their family tree but the Creole culture was already here long before they arrived!

Dark skinned creole woman here, I do not have any Haitian blood line, that I am aware of . Yet, its very true that a lot of people do assume that creoles in the US get placed in the Haitian pot all the time, and some of us do not have the Haitian legacy.

@CreoleLadyMarmalade loving that let it cook part because African American will throw creole under the umbrella just like the term Mulatto. We are not a sub group of a group. I have a distant cousin who's ggm was a free mulatto that married into one of the richest French families in south Carolina and had 7 kids with her. She refers to her ancestor kids as French African Americans 😂😂😂😂 I'm like huh. Your ancestor owned 150,000 arces of land. You came about differently. You are not a AA 😂 you are the total opposite of the definition. I think it bummed her out. Because she be acting so biggdy black but come to find out she was royalty instead of 300 years of slavery.

We are all the same people. Haiti, Jamaica, the Carribean, and the creole African Americans. We are the jews expelled from Portugal. Our Dark Skin Moorish ancestors mixed with Turkish, French, and Spanish women in Iberia. Their children were called Morriscos and Mulattoes, and all the dark skinned moors or mixed ancestry moors were expelled in 1492. Same time Columbus went on on an expedition to discover new territories. Creole language is literally a reflection of our time spent in Hispania. This is why Haitians speak creole, Jamaicans speak Patois (or Patwa), and creole African Americans speak remnants of those langauages as well. We have such a deep history that relates to biblical Jews, its not even funny. I really do hope our people care to look into it.

Do you speak kouri vini?

Im so confused tho.. yall got gingerbread houses which is only found in haiti. Yes its influenced by french colonial home but theres distinctions. Plus the food and also the vodou and outfits... these have always been in haitis culture. Theres a program in which a bunch of N0LA people go to haiti to become a vodou priest.

Very informative

Doing another welfare check here! I hope you are all ok down there Dominique! 🙌🏽 I hope your daughters are enjoying school 🎉

Amen. If someone could start meeting community to meet other Creole people. If so let me know. Thanks y’all.

Even if aspects of Louisiana Creole culture came from Haiti as you stated they're distinctive from each other.

Around 70% of the Haitians during the Haitian Revolution were straight off the boat and the rest had only been on the western side of La Española for 1 generation.

They didn't really adopt much from the French and retained their tribalistic African roots. Haitians were not able to form singular identity like Dominicans so they ended being a conglomerate of Africans from different countries/tribes who united for a single cause and later went to civil war. Over 90% of Haitians are pure Africans so is strange when I see some wanting to claim Louisiana Creole culture.

New Orleans Creole, still unclear about Haitian though.
But, my ancestors did come through Cuba making their way to Southeast Louisiana.
Beaucoup!

I swear to god black people love tribalism , black culture is black culture does not matter the location , lol like what you like and love what you love

It's a tiring debate and it's a comes from a racist idea that any black person or half black person in America can't have a distinct culture. I like caribbeans but I don't like that some are trying to claim every part of black American culture as a caribbean creation it's becoming a cultural genocide. It's the same with Gullah Geechees saying they are just Bahamians or Barbadians. Many African slaves had to stop in the caribbeans before coming over here. Some stopped in Martinique and Haiti before going to Lousiana but these were Africans.

Most haitians settled in the coastal parts of Lousiana. It's Haitians saying that Louisiana is Haitian culture yes there may be some influence but it makes it seem like the entire colony didn''t do anything until they came. The language was forming, the foods were influenced by French and Wolof, Fon etc people and the dances as well.

You have to remember Louisiana and Haiti were both French territories prior to the Purchase and the Haitian Revolution. So despite the migration… you have to consider the greater migration. The slave route was the same where LA the last drop off point. Therefore we (Haitians and the Descendants of LA slaves) are likely from the same regions of Africa and that is ultimately why we are more similar. The cultures are very much different though. But the core influence is Africa

Lmao 🤣
I hear u sis
Two different clans
But the Same tribe

I laughed because in New York
Where I'm from... U better don't called a Puerto Rican a Dominican and you Damn as hell dare not called a Dominican a Haitian....

I'm Panamanian
They always mistake me as a Dominican....

I'm like no!!!!

different clan of AfroLatinos 😂

Proud Haitian! Hi my creole family!

all I heard was facts ❤

But does it matter Haitian Creole nearly 15,000, 000 spoke in Mexico, Quebec, France, Germany Brazil, Brooklyn on and on Louisiana creole peut être 5000 but 10,000 Haitian came though Mexico in one day Haitian Creole is the future in Louisiana probably.7000 Haitian there now 50,000 Haitian can be there in 2025 will change new Orléans again

Bonjour je pense si vous commencez et étudier Alabama et Mississippi créole histoire vous allez mieux comprendre 1 ère noir avec les français en Mobile Alabama et Biloxi , Iberville Mississippi viennent d’Haïti 1700’s , 100 years before 1800’s Haitian can to Louisiana there was Haitian already in Mississippi , Alabama, Arkansas, Missouri, Tennessee, Illinois with the French plus black cane to Haiti with Columbus 1492 et French brought Africa to Haiti in early 1600’s. This mean most of the Africa in Louisiana when the big waves of Haiti came to Louisiana was already Haiti descent, and before the French officially said this is Louisiana probably thousand of black who spoke Spanish probably was there with the Spanish from Santo Domingo, that why Haiti when to Louisiana because they new Haiti was already there the Indian from America Natchez Mississippi was deported 500 to Haiti probably told the slave black peoples over there get a boat you get there without directions , who counting illegal haitian in 1600/1800 to louisiana or american biden administation ,

You are beautiful and charming, and intelligent, you don't need to have a racist approach to race in your videos, the United States and Americans are a multinational and multicultural society.
Your video was very educational for the audience. Louisianans and Haitians are brothers but have separate cultures because they both influenced each other, but both have separate identities. Kouri Vini and Haitian Caribbean are separate cultures, and like Denmark and the Faroes they are Nordic but speak different languages and have different cultures.
And the Haitians have to stop with the false speech that created the kouri Vini which gave rise to the Louisianans, both mixed after the Haitian went to Louisiana and love each other and form families to this day they have deep affinities.
And Louisianans have their own identity and like Haitians and have to differentiate themselves from them in the world because they formed the United States and are Americans like any Usonian person.
Kisses in the heart, God, take care and create playlists teaching Lousiana Creole and French. Hugs.
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I even want to leave you with great ideas, kouri vini, Louisian Creole now in the 21st century should absorb and merge with the regional languages ​​of France that the French state wants to destroy such as Catalan, Occitan, Arpitan (Provençal Frank) and Marchois, These languages ​​are on the verge of extinction and threatened with disappearance, so if Kouri Vini merges with them it will become more influential in the world and even more understandable for people who speak Romance and Neo-Latin, and as you are Francophones you have every right not to let these Minority cultures in the South of France do not disappear from hugs.
Take these ideas to the cultural council throughout Lousiana and carry out this cultural rescue of these languages, hugs.
Happy kisses 2024.
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I’ve spoke to you about this long time ago on instagram. So glad to know other people know the true history. I’m from sunset Louisiana and know this history really well and speak the language daily.

My main problem with haitians that irk my soul is the fact they think anyone from Louisiana that speak any creole is bc of THEM lol. I wont be surprised they claim the cajuns next. That’s like saying Martinuqe creoles, dominica creoles, sierra leone creoles, antilliean creoles, mauritian creoles, seychellois creoles, gullah and geechee creoles etc is bc THEY are the reason they speak such a language. And a lil history lesson for them, your people beat their slave masters and gained independence, right? Those Haitians that fled to LA were their white french masters who somehow managed to bring haitians they owned as well to new orleans. Now here is the gag…. DUN DUN DUN. Why would haitians who just defeated their oppressors take refuge in a french colony being oppressed by the very same french opressors they just got rid of? Do that make any damn sense? The haitian revolution was the white people that lost the battle and the haitians owning what’s theirs. Your history and yall do not know this? Sure haitians mingled with OUR people some some people have haitian ancestry somehwere but do not ever disrespect LCs as if we didn’t have our own identity and culture prior to yall masters fleaing here with a few haitians on deck. And lastly, if yall were the reason for us being who we are, then why did a Louisiana creole man create our flag that contains flags of the french, Spanish, mali and Senegal which is the ancestral foundation of LCs? Where is haiti? Ijs.

Not relating to video mvskoke(muscogee creek) their tribe in Louisiana, Oklahoma,Florida, Alabama inwhere they had pyramids in Louisiana they made

This is good information, I’m from dc but my whole family is from Lake Charles and we all speak Creole but we are haitian mixed with Spaniard cause of my great grandma and grandpa so I was always confused but I’m currently learning Kouri Vini

haitians had a major impact in new orleans

As a haitian, here's my take.
I use Haiti and Saint-Domingue inter-changeably
Louisian creole and culture existed before the Haitian start coming, but at the same time the arrival of the Haitians refugee had a big impact in all aspect of Louisiana, affecting language, cuisine, arts, culture. Why a big impact?
Compare both populations before and after their merging.
Saint-Domingue had the largest and wealthiest free population of color in the Caribbean; they were known as the Gens de couleur libres (free people of color).
Haiti(Saint Domingue) has a population between 500,000-1,000,000 before the revolution, those people has a well establish culture, language and customs. The declaration of freedom from France by Sonthonax has been published both in French and Haitian Creole, official governmental document published in Haitian creole(That means a lot). Now compared that with Louisiana who had a population of 40,000-50,000 before the arrival of the Haitians. These people came with their own language, culture and had change Louisiana, that is a fact.

Most of the 6,000 Haitians who fled Haiti(Saint-Domingue) for New Orleans during the Haitian Revolution were white. They were running from black Haitians so they certainly wouldn't be taking black Haitians with them to New Orleans.

Spices, Voodoo, Mardi Gras etc. were already a part of the Louisiana territory owned by the French centuries before the Haitian Revolution.

I don’t know where you get your history from first of all you would have been created if it wasn’t for haiti and French empire so let’s make that clear!!!! You speak of what was before the French in Louisiana? Okay so the slaves in Louisiana wasn’t the same slave in Haiti 🤣 I’m lost you creole people need to stop! 1720's and the 1780's You guys received 3000 slaves there’s no way they could of went from Africa to New Orleans with out docking in Hispaniola when French riches assets was in the island of Hispaniola from food to gold and etc etc etc the creol people in Louisiana is the same people that’s was traded back and forth to haiti and Louisiana. Your history don’t add up sorry your not Haitian but your Creole stamp probably came from the same tribe of Haitians and that’s facts! If it wasn’t for Haiti it wouldn’t never been a French or etc etc etc my people blood is the root of your family success!!!!! Remember your skin color would have never been if that white man(European,French, Spanish, etc) ain’t sleep with that beautiful slave you’ll be black as a door knob. 🇭🇹

My Indigenous Mexican grandmother came from Mexico and settled in Louisana with her white husband. She was twelve and he was thirty four. I didn't know a lot of Mexicans settled in Louisana.

Pretty eyes

Wait the hatians that went to Louisiana , where the white slave master class. The same as puerto rico

I KNEW IT! WE ARE OF HAITIAN DESCENT, Somewhat ✊🏽👊🏽

Not calling creoles just black but I noticed that a lot of caribbeans and Africans try to take credit for anything partially black or fully black people do because to them they are raised to believe we have no culture in America so how could we create anything for ourselves. And they don't do that to anyone other group. There was even a Jamaican British girl saying Americans don't know if we are caribbean or African as if caribbeans also didn't come from Africa or Asia themselves. It's very weird and rooted in white supremacy.

Those “hatians” that came to Louisiana were the Mulatto French and European French who ran from that wild island

I just can’t agree because my grandfather jos Johnson cane from Hispaniola(ship named la grange master Silas beebe) then moved to Cuba before coming to Louisiana moved to 7th ward were he married into more creoles and named his children French and Spanish names my dna shows full Caribbean mixed with French and Spanish nothing to be ashamed of were are indeed the afrolatinos of USA

Louisiana Creole history is really complex, and most of the arguments and confusion I see about this issue stems from a misconception of who those "Haitian" immigrants to Louisiana actually were. A lot of people have modern Haitians in mind, but most of those immigrants were actually Saint-Domingue Creoles: free, mixed-race people who often owned land and slaves themselves, which is why they had to flee from Saint-Domingue (the original name of Haiti) during the Haitian Revolution.

So while they/we had some shared African ancestry with modern Haitians, Saint-Domingue Creoles (also known as Dominican Creoles) were a completely different group of people who had much more in common with the mixed-race Louisiana Creoles that were already here. I've seen old photos of my family from Saint-Domingue, and they looked like many Louisiana Creoles today.

Do you think the British might’ve led to Europeans colonizing to get resources to fight English invasion?

I think a lot of history is removed because of the British.
I don’t think Spain was first.

The proper term for you guys isn't Louisiana creole its gens de couleur libres, that's what all the mixed race people in the French colonies were called. Culture wise everyone from Louisiana to Martinique shared similar culture but had differences.

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